Wrench

"You think you got problems, look at these boots!!!??" "I just paid you a fiver for an argument!" "No you didn't" "Yes I did!" "Sorry, times up." "No it's not!" "I could be argueing on my own time" "What a silly concept!" and off we go!! Wrench kevin stein ps: sorry to hijack, but I couldn't resist a pythonism

You're kidding, right???? I'm not sure I understand the question.... The aircraft is already pre-existing in your game (use window explorer, and LOOK at the /aircraft folder -- you'll find the AN-12 sub-folder the 2nd one down, in a stock install) They don't show up in game, excepting some scripted missions, and occasionally in campaigns -I've seen them ONCE, in SF during the first campaign- because the coding for what they do dosen't exist. Look at the aircraft roles: [MissionData] NationName=SOVIET ServiceStartYear=1959 ServiceEndYear=2000 AircraftRole=TRANSPORT <--here AircraftCapability=DAY_AND_NIGHT Availability=VERY_COMMON Exported=TRUE ExportStartYear=1959 ExportAvailability=VERY_COMMON PrimaryRoles=TRANSPORT,AIR_ASSAULT <--and here SecondaryRoles= NormalMissionRadius=1450 MaxMissionRadius=3100 Ceiling=10200.0 MinBaseSize=SMALL None of those functions work, except as noted above. And then, even rarely. Please clarify the request?? Wrench kevin stein

Let's see here.... the link to my site is in my sig (then you can jump to the 'New Aircraft & Skins' page). Since it's designed for a WW2:1946 (also known as Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe 2), it obviously won't be under 'Cold War Aircraft' or 'Modern Aircraft'. So that just leaves.... WW2 aircraft maybe??? "Eliminate all other factors, and the one which remains must be the truth" Here's a little more help: P-86A, circa 1947 Remember, it'll need reskinning! And it's a stand-in ONLY! - until Bib finshes off the real one! Wrench Kevin Stein

thanks, Ed! That what my mom says! glad you didn't notice the typing/spelling errors!! Been hangin' with Dave too long!! What I'm worried about is, somebody might actually want the Wonder Wipes!!! They call my bluff; then what am I gonna do? Ain't giving up my Fireman Friend -- that been through 3 cars, and still works as good as the day I bought it 0ver 10 years ago! Wrench kevin stein

F-86H-10 (by Zur, foureyes, howling1) I'm going to be doing a little experimenting with this before posting any data; it comes with a placeholder Mk.12A Nuke for LABS useage. Sometime soon, me hopes! Wrench Kevin Stein

F-86F-35 F-86F-40 (by Zur & DanW) Like the FJ-3M, we're only concerned with the first 6 stations. Jus copy/paste the data below over those 6 ONLY!!! Data ini: [LeftWingStation1] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=01 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.75,0.52,-0.87 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=700.0 AllowedWeaponClass=FT,BOMB AttachmentType=USAF ModelNodeName=left_pylon PylonMass=40.0 PylonDragArea=0.03 FuelTankName=Tank_f86 [RightWingStation2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=02 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.75,0.52,-0.87 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=700.0 AllowedWeaponClass=FT,BOMB AttachmentType=USAF ModelNodeName=right_pylon PylonMass=40.0 PylonDragArea=0.03 FuelTankName=Tank_f86 [LeftWingStation3] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=03 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-1.90,0.98,-0.92 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=700.0 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP AttachmentType=USAF ModelNodeName=Left_pylon2 PylonMass=40.0 PylonDragArea=0.03 [RightWingStation4] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=04 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=1.90,0.98,-0.92 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=700.0 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP AttachmentType=USAF ModelNodeName=right_pylon2 PylonMass=40.0 PylonDragArea=0.03 [sidewinderStation5] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=05 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-1.50,2.40,-1.10 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=72 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=USAF ModelNodeName=left_rail PylonMass=45.0 PylonDragArea=0.04 [sidewinderStation6] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=06 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=1.50,2.40,-1.10 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=72 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=USAF ModelNodeName=right_rail PylonMass=45.0 PylonDragArea=0.02 Loadout ini: [AirToAir] Loadout[01].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[06].Quantity=1 [AirToAirLongRange] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[06].Quantity=1 Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=M117 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=M117 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 [sEAD] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[04].Quantity=1 [Anti-Ship] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=MK82 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=MK82 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 [Recon] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 You'll probably be saying "what the hell is Wrench doing? These are the same as before!". Just want to make sure, folks. Just want to make sure :yes: Wrench kevin stein

F-86E-10 Sabre F-86F (by Zur and DanW) Data ini: Since the weapons station section on ALL the Sabres are so huge, the simplest, easiest way to fix it is just to a 'find & replace' with you text editor. You'd 'find' USAF,NATO and then 'replace' with USAF. Or, you can simply remove the NATO pointer by hand Loadout ini: Loads are OK as is. No real changes needed for this version Wrench kevin stein

FJ-3M Fury (by C5; based on F-86 by Zur & DanW) When originally released, we did not have carrier operations. Unfortunately, this aircraft does not have a tailhook built into the model. Fortunately, we can add a virtual hook, that works just fine. Open you data ini, and in the {MissionData} section -the top one, add this line at the end: CarrierBased=TRUE Scroll down to the {Fuselage} section, and add the following: SystemName[006]=TailHook (it should be system #6, if not, adjust accordingly. In the {LandingGear} section add this at end: [Tailhook] SystemType=ARRESTER_HOOK MaxDeflection=45 AnimationID= Retractable=TRUE DeployTime=2.50 ModelNodeName=TailHook HookArmLength=1.882 AttachmentPosition=-0.0000,-4.3254,0.0128 Weapons Stations: These are used slightly differently than the stock Sabres, so the easiest way is to ignore the HVAR stations -just leave them alone or you'll have the stubs protruding- and copy/paste the data below over the stations indicated: [LeftWingStation1] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.75,0.52,-0.87 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=700.0 AllowedWeaponClass=FT,BOMB AttachmentType=USN ModelNodeName=left_pylon PylonMass=40.0 PylonDragArea=0.03 FuelTankName=Tank_f86 [RightWingStation2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.75,0.52,-0.87 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=700.0 AllowedWeaponClass=FT,BOMB AttachmentType=USN ModelNodeName=right_pylon PylonMass=40.0 PylonDragArea=0.03 FuelTankName=Tank_f86 [LeftWingStation3] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=3 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-1.90,0.98,-0.92 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=700.0 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP AttachmentType=USN ModelNodeName=Left_pylon2 PylonMass=40.0 PylonDragArea=0.03 [RightWingStation4] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=4 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=1.90,0.98,-0.92 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=700.0 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP AttachmentType=USN ModelNodeName=right_pylon2 PylonMass=40.0 PylonDragArea=0.03 [sidewinderStation5] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=5 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-1.50,2.40,-1.10 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=72 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=USN ModelNodeName=left_rail PylonMass=45.0 PylonDragArea=0.04 [sidewinderStation6] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=6 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=1.50,2.40,-1.10 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=72 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=USN ModelNodeName=right_rail PylonMass=45.0 PylonDragArea=0.02 REMEMBER: we're only using the first 6 stations listed!!! Loadout ini: [AirToAir] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[06].Quantity=1 [AirToAirLongRange] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[06].Quantity=1 Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=M117 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=M117 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 [ATTACK] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[04].Quantity=1 [sEAD] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[04].Quantity=1 [Anti-Ship] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=MK82 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=MK82 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 [Recon] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_f86 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 And there you have it!! Wrench kevin stein

F11F-1 Tiger (by Fleet Defender & Team) Like most of the US aircraft, you simply need to remove the "NATO" pointer. I've also upped to the outer hardpoint 15 kg to make sure you don't get the 'empty' readout in the loadout screen. They were carrying just slightly less then the weight of the bomb, so now they show the weapon listed, as opposed to the blacked-out circle and empty. Even though the weapon was there, in game; it didn't show on the loadout screen. I've also fixed the missing inner pylon for bomb loads. Data ini: First off, we're going to fix the always on landing light. Scroll down to the bottom, and replace the LandingLight section with this: [LandingLight] SystemType=LIGHT Position=-1.279,1.101,0.09 LightSrcOffset=0.00,0.00,0.00 Color=0.88,0.88,0.88 Brightness=0.15 LightSrcRange=1.0 CanFlash=FALSE IsLandingLight=TRUE weapons stations: [LeftWingStationOutboard_M] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-3.686,-1.395,-0.303 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=230.0 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=USN ModelNodeName=hp_tr_l PylonMass=0.0 PylonDragArea=0.0 LaunchRailNodeName=hp_msslrl_tr_l LaunchRailHeight=0.0 [RightWingStationOutboard_M] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=3.686,-1.395,-0.303 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=230.0 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=USN ModelNodeName=hp_tr_r PylonMass=0.0 PylonDragArea=0.0 LaunchRailNodeName=hp_msslrl_tr_r LaunchRailHeight=0.0 [LeftWingStationInboard_M] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=3 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.792,-0.607,-0.289 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=230.0 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=USN ModelNodeName=hp_nnr_sml_l PylonMass=0.0 PylonDragArea=0.0 LaunchRailNodeName=hp_msslrl_nnr_l LaunchRailHeight=0.0 [RightWingStationInboard_M] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=4 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.792,-0.607,-0.289 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=230.0 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=USN ModelNodeName=hp_nnr_sml_r PylonMass=0.0 PylonDragArea=0.0 LaunchRailNodeName=hp_msslrl_nnr_r LaunchRailHeight=0.0 [LeftWingStationInboard_FT] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=5 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.792,-0.767,-0.220 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=FT AttachmentType=USN ModelNodeName=hp_nnr_lrg_l PylonMass=55.0 PylonDragArea=0.03 FuelTankName=Tank150_F11F [RightWingStationInboard_FT] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=6 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.792,-0.767,-0.220 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=FT AttachmentType=USN ModelNodeName=hp_nnr_lrg_r PylonMass=55.0 PylonDragArea=0.03 FuelTankName=Tank150_F11F [LeftWingStationOutboard] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=7 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-3.686,-1.721,-0.231 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=255.0 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP AttachmentType=USN ModelNodeName=hp_tr_l PylonMass=55.0 PylonDragArea=0.02 [RightWingStationOutboard] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=8 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=3.686,-1.721,-0.231 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=255.0 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP AttachmentType=USN ModelNodeName=hp_tr_r PylonMass=55.0 PylonDragArea=0.02 [LeftWingStationInboard] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=9 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.792,-0.767,-0.269 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP AttachmentType=USN ModelNodeName=hp_nnr_lrg_l //ModelNodeName=hp_sml_l PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 [RightWingStationInboard] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=10 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.792,-0.767,-0.269 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP AttachmentType=USN ModelNodeName=hp_nnr_lrg_r //ModelNodeName=hp_sml_r PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 note the commented out section on the pylon node. This will now give you the correct pylon, as to NOT having one show as it was before. Loadout ini: [AirToAir] Loadout[01].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[04].Quantity=1 [AirToAirLongRange] Loadout[01].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=Tank150_F11F Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=Tank150_F11F Loadout[06].Quantity=1 [Attack] Loadout[07].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[09].WeaponType=MK82 Loadout[09].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=MK82 Loadout[10].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=MK82 Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=MK82 Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[09].WeaponType=MK82 Loadout[09].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=MK82 Loadout[10].Quantity=1 [sEAD] Loadout[07].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[09].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[09].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[10].Quantity=1 [Anti-Ship] Loadout[07].WeaponType= Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType= Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[09].WeaponType=MK82 Loadout[09].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=MK82 Loadout[10].Quantity=1 [FAC] Loadout[07].WeaponType=LAU-3A(WP) Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=LAU-3A(WP) Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[09].WeaponType=LAU-3A(WP) Loadout[09].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=LAU-3A(WP) Loadout[10].Quantity=1 [Recon] Loadout[01].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=Tank150_F11F Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=Tank150_F11F Loadout[06].Quantity=1 Clear Skies!! Wrench kevin stein

F-9J (F9F-8) Cougar (by Pasko, C5 and a host of others) Basically, again, making sure that "USN" has been selected for the attachement type. Also using USAF (like above) to be sure. If other countries used them (Argentina??), and you've created a country-specific version, you'll have to adjust the nations, attachement type and loadout ini to suit your needs. data ini: [LeftSidewinderStation1] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.57,-0.55,-0.40 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=90.72 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=USN PylonMass=20 PylonDragArea=0.01 [RightSidewinderStation1] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.57,-0.55,-0.40 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=90.72 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=USN PylonMass=20 PylonDragArea=0.01 [LeftSidewinderStation2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=3 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.03,-0.55,-0.40 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=90.72 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=USN PylonMass=20 PylonDragArea=0.01 [RightSidewinderStation2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=4 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.03,-0.55,-0.40 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=90.72 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=USN PylonMass=20 PylonDragArea=0.01 [LeftInboardStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=5 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.3,-0.70,-0.53 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1500 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,FT AttachmentType=USN,USAF PylonMass=60 PylonDragArea=0.04 FuelTankName=Tank150_Cougar [RightInboardStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=6 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition= 2.3,-0.70,-0.53 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1500 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,FT AttachmentType=USN,USAF PylonMass=60 PylonDragArea=0.04 FuelTankName=Tank150_Cougar [LeftOutboardStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=7 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-3.43,-1.20,-0.51 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB AttachmentType=USN,USAF ModelNodeName=LeftOuterPylon PylonMass=10 PylonDragArea=0.02 [RightOutboardStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=8 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition= 3.43,-1.20,-0.51 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB AttachmentType=USN,USAF ModelNodeName=RightOuterPylon PylonMass=10 PylonDragArea=0.02 Loadout ini: [AirToAir] Loadout[01].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[04].Quantity=1 [AirToAirLongRange Loadout[01].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=Tank150_Cougar Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=Tank150_Cougar Loadout[06].Quantity=1 [Attack] Loadout[01].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=500lb_bomb Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=500lb_bomb Loadout[06].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=100lb_bomb Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=100lb_bomb Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[01].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=500lb_bomb Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=500lb_bomb Loadout[06].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=100lb_bomb Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=100lb_bomb Loadout[08].Quantity=1 [sEAD] Loadout[01].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=100lb_bomb Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=100lb_bomb Loadout[06].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=100lb_bomb Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=100lb_bomb Loadout[08].Quantity=1 [Anti-Ship] Loadout[01].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=500lb_bomb Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=500lb_bomb Loadout[06].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=500lb_bomb Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=500lb_bomb Loadout[08].Quantity=1 [Recon] Loadout[01].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=Tank150_Cougar Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=Tank150_Cougar Loadout[06].Quantity=1 Some of these are a 'best guess' on my part; I'm assuming at some point they may have carried early LAU-3 type rocket pods, but have found no evidence thereof. So, you get bombs. Wrench Kevin Stein

X-Ray, can you post the weapons station sections from the data ini, and the loadout ini??? I need to see what you have done, so I can figure out what is wrong. I've no problems with either Jet-Zs or Ajundairs 104S models...both mount Sparrow/Aspide (depending on mission year and missile aviailbility). Same goes for the ASA and ASA-M Check you start service dates...I'm pretty sure I changed them to more historical. It should read: "Show me the ini!!" Wrench kevin stein

(insert Billie Mays, TV Huckster voice:) You don't need the desert cat - which only comes in SF. All you need is little text editing, and and typing skills!! If you act right now, we'll send you, at no additional charge "The Secrets of Getting Terrains To Work". This fully non-illistrated guide book will take you step by step in making sure all those wonderful terrains show up and work in your game install. Dosen't matter if if SF, WoV or WoE. Call now, and we'll throw in a complete set of the Wonder Wiper, Miracle Cleaning Cloth. You just pay shipping and handling! Call the number on your screen, or just follow the link below!! Operators ARE standing by (or just sitting around - you can never tell with them!) - I really crack myself up sometimes!!! Maybe I should get a job on infomercials...hmm.... You just need to add a line to your ****.ini (the main terrain ini) The example below is my Israel2 terrain, running beautifully in WoE: BTW, this very problem is coverd in the Knowledge Base, under the thread Third Party Terrains (<-click me! i'm a link!) or something like that. Just ignore the final conclusiion of "use the desert cat if possible". Under the latest patch, all the items are included in the GermanyCE.cat. For the most part. Wrench kevin stein

F9F-5 Panther (by Pasko, C5, etal) Mostly, just needs removing the 'NATO' reference. I have added 'USAF' just in case for some of the bombs/rockets Data ini: [LeftWingStationInboard] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-1.9,0.24,-0.4 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1500 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT AttachmentType=USN,USAF ModelNodeName=LWingPylon PylonMass=20 PylonDragArea=0.04 [RightWingStationInboard] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=1.9,0.24,-0.4 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1500 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT AttachmentType=USN,USAF ModelNodeName=RWingPylon PylonMass=20 PylonDragArea=0.04 [LeftWingStationOutboard1] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=3 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.38,0.24,-0.35 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT AttachmentType=USN,USAF ModelNodeName=LWingPylons PylonMass=10 PylonDragArea=0.02 [RightWingStationOutboard1] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=4 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.38,0.24,-0.35 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT AttachmentType=USN,USAF ModelNodeName=RWingPylons PylonMass=10 PylonDragArea=0.02 [LeftWingStationOutboard2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=5 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.8,0.24,-0.31 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT AttachmentType=USN,USAF ModelNodeName= PylonMass=10 PylonDragArea=0.02 [RightWingStationOutboard2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=6 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.8,0.24,-0.31 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT AttachmentType=USN,USAF ModelNodeName= PylonMass=10 PylonDragArea=0.02 [LeftWingStationOutboard3] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=7 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-3.22,0.24,-0.28 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT AttachmentType=USN,USAF ModelNodeName= PylonMass=10 PylonDragArea=0.02 [RightWingStationOutboard3] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=8 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=3.22,0.24,-0.28 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT AttachmentType=USN,USAF ModelNodeName= PylonMass=10 PylonDragArea=0.02 Loadout ini: [AirToAir] [AirToAirLongRange [Attack] Loadout[01].WeaponType=500lb_bomb Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=500lb_bomb Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=250lb_bomb Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=250lb_bomb Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=250lb_bomb Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=250lb_bomb Loadout[06].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=250lb_bomb Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=250lb_bomb Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[01].WeaponType=500lb_bomb Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=500lb_bomb Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[06].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[08].Quantity=1 [sEAD] Loadout[01].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[06].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[08].Quantity=1 [Anti-Ship] Loadout[01].WeaponType=1000lb_bomb Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=1000lb_bomb Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[06].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[08].Quantity=1 [FAC] Loadout[01].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[06].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=HVAR Loadout[08].Quantity=1 [Recon] You'll note the exclusive use of WW2 style weapons. For a Korean War era bird, this is correct. Wrench kevin stein

X-Ray: here's a direct link to the 104S: F-104S Loadout Tweeks And right below that one, you'll find the data sets for Jet-Z F-104S-ASA Happy hunting! Wrench kevin stein

Of the several hundreds of nose arts I've done, there's always 2 that repeat in every set: "Patricia Ann", for the wife and "The Wrench" for me. That one goes all the way back to my ATF/FA mission building days -- that wrench-dude would appear just everywhere! Gascan, you'll find the Bettie shows up in a few of mine, to...especially the Red Devil one, and another in black leather with the riding crop. Check out the WW2 skins I've done. You'll find them. I've a large collection of Vargas, Petty, Soriyama, and many others that wind up as decals on various planes. Wrench kevin stein

Bringing this back to the top for those who don't know, or haven't heard of this superb resource Wrench Kevin Stein

Since when did Zippers carry Sparrows???? Not any of the A,B,C,D, or G models. Only the Italian 104S, S-ASA and S-ASA-M. A little more research might be in order. And yes, you better get over to the Knowledge Base and read all my posts on editing loadouts. 'cause if you've added the weapons pak, the next question in line would be "where are the missiles on my Migs?". Your work is just beginning....muuuuaaahhhaahhaaa Wrench kevin stein

Now, Dave, you KNOW that HrntFixr and me are gonna fill all those hardpoints with Sidewinders for The Wingman, right!!! Wrench Kevin Stein

I'm assuming you haven't considered any of the other 1st Generation Jets as a substitute??? (cough) Sabre (cough) I, to am unhappy with using the Scooter, as it needs a few little tweek to rear of the cockpit (bulkhead). But it IS all we really have. Wonder if we can sweet-talk Lexx into making a few 'moves' for us, using MK2's russianized one, and have a more open over the shoulder view?? Lexx??? You there buddy?? I have that nice russian PB1 gunsight all ready to go...hehehehee (as if I didn't already give to you!!) There's always the Su-17 pit, too. Remember the 3 Words We Live By: Improvise Adapt Overcome Wrench kevin stein

There is an unofficial* P-86A that I made for SWOTL2; it's based off Zur F model, with some tweeks to the controls. It would probably need a new skin, as it's painted for WW2: 1946. Available here at CA and my site. Wrench kevin stein *=unofficial as in approved by Zur, but not a 'real' A model.

Anybody given any thought to the Flagon pit by boopidoo?? May not be right, but it looks russian!!! 2 different versions, for the original Su15, and another nicer one for the Su15TM Might even work pretty good in the 9A/9B/11???? Just a thought... Wrench kevin stein

Right then, since this is a topic that seems to appear on almost a weekly basis, we figured it was time to codify the basic ini moding procedures for getting those Red Air Birds flyable. Now, mind you, there are several real good cockpits available for the Fishbed series, albeit for the earlier versions (and we're not talking the Bison or 21st Century HUDed upgrades currently on the market). We're going to cover the basic tweeks necessary to give them a cockpit you can use. You're going to need several easy to use tools to start this process: Cat extract utility - this is the most important one!!! Avalible here are CA in the "Utilities" section of the SF/WoV/WoE downloads Text Editor - notepad or word pad are the units of choice. There are several 'in the works' mods for Soviet/Warsaw Pact aircraft using various 'moves' and repaints created by Lexx_Luthor, as posted on the 3rd Wire Boards, Generic Cockpits but these aren't out yet (wish they were!). So we're stuck using what's available right now in game, or modifications thereof for use on our little Red Friends. Also, here at CombatAce, in Marcfighters section, you'll find some downloads to make your Red Birds flyable; cockpit repaints and info needed. You'll be using either the A-4 or F-100 pit for his mods. For WoE users, it might even be possible to use the Hunter's pit for some of the early Soviet birds, as it also has the 'steam-gauge' look to it. Most of the 'stand-in' cockpits out there are repaints or mods of the exisiting A-4 Skyhawk pit for single engined birds, or mods/repaints of the F-4B pit for twin engined birds. It should be noted that Mago's Mig-21F cockpit, with some tweeks to stop the moving canopy, could also be used for some of the "Teen Series" MiGs and Sukhois, or ArmourDave superb Su-17 pit which also has multiple uses (Su-7, Mig-23, Mig-27). I'm not going into those now, but suffice it to say, there are usable alternatives. The aircraft we're talking about in here are: MiG-17 MiG-19 Su-7BM IL-28 Tu-16 Tu-22 (although bombers are a real special case!) Be advised, you will be extracing files, and placing them into the aircrafts in question. You will be renaming said files, and making adjustments in the "PilotPosition=" line in those cockpit inis. This is a much beter way than simply adding the cockpit pointer line, as this will give you correct cockpit/pilot positioning from the player viewpoint, inside the cockpt. In other words, a little extra work that'll make it easier to drive around with. Ok...getting started. In our example, we're going to use the Stock 3rd Wire MiG-17F Fresco-C. In the main aircraft folder you will have a file called "MiG-17F.ini". This is the file we're going to be editing. It looks like this inside: You'll see there are no references to anything resembling a cockpit, hangar screen, avionics (they didn't have any in any case), loading screen, or loadout image. This, below, is the same section, but from the player flyable F-4B Phantom: Before we get to modifiying, lets take a moment and explain what each of the lines are, and what they do. AircraftFullName=F-4B Phantom II: this is what shows on the dropdown on the mission selection menu, that allows you to pick your plane. AircraftDataFile=F-4B_data.ini: tells the game engine what data set to use for this aircraft CockpitDataFile=F-4B_cockpit.ini: tells it what cockpit to use HangarScreen=F-4B_hangar.bmp: the hangar screen. The Loading Image is the one you stare at while waiting for the progress meter to reach 100%, so you can fly. Some aircraft have them, both from 3W, or made by 3rd Party modders (like myself and many others) LoadoutImage=F-4B_loadout.bmp this is the little picture on the loadout screen, where you select weapons, drop tanks etc. LoadoutFile=F-4B_loadout.ini: defines what weapons are carried on which hardpoint. AvionicsDLL=Avionics60.dll: which avionics file to use. This is the one giving some people some problems. Simply put: you cannot have a HUD with avionics 60.dll. You cannot have ground mapping and terrain avoidance radars with avionics70.dll. And yes, there are workarounds, but that is the basic rule of thumb. AvionicsDataFilename=F-4B_avionics.ini: defines how your electronics work. Now that we've got our definations out of the way, and you hopefully understand what they mean, let's get you in the cockpit of that Fresco.... You basically need to add only 1 or 2 lines, depending if the aircraft is equipped with a radar. If it's equipped with a radar, radar warning system or if you want to add hangar & loading screen and the loadout bmp, you'll be adding a few more lines. Again, let me remind you, we're only dealing with the stock cockpits already inside the objects.cat. If you're using one of the modified Skyhawk or Phantom pits available for download, they should already come with instructions as to what to do; some even come with a fully edited ***.ini ready for use. Since the stock Scooter pit is positioned differently from ANY of the MiGs, you'll probably want to go ahead and extract the A-4B_COCKPIT.INI from the objects.cat. You'll also need the Fresco's data ini, so go ahead and extract that too. Place BOTH files into the "MiG-17F" main folder. Add this line to the MiG-17F.ini: CockpitDataFile=MiG17_COCKPIT.INI Rename the A-4B's cockpit ini to match. IE: MiG17_COCKPIT INI Open up the MiG-17_DATA.INI and scroll down until you see this section: Open up your recently renamed "MiG17_COCKPIT.INI", and look for the following lines: Copy the "Position=" numbers from the Fresco's data ini, and paste them OVER the existing one in the cockpit ini. It's not perfect; it may be off a few centimeters in any direction, but it will get you very close to the actual position in the physical model. This can be re-checked by looking out the canopy, and by using the free camera view (whilst sitting on the runway) to note the pilot's place in the aircraft, usually relative to the wing leading edge. Then adjustments to the pilot's position up or down, forward or aft can be made. The procedures outlined above can be used for any of the other aircraft listed. One of the special cases involves using AD's Su-17 pit on the Su-7 Fitter C. You'll again need to do some extracting of the Su-7 data ini; you've probably done this already to adjust the weapons loads if you use the WepPack. If not, do so now. 1) copy the ENTIRE cockpit folder from the Su-17 and paste it into the Su-7 folder. 2) copy/paste the Su-17_COCKPIT.INI into the Su-7's folder. Rename to "SU7_COCKPIT.INI 3) add the cockpit pointer line, as shown above 4) open the Su-7BM_DATA.INI and find the pilot section, as outlined above. 5) copy those numbers into the cockpit ini, also as shown above. 6) Save and close. Go fly a mission and enjoy your new pit! BOMBERS: A very special case. As there are no real bomber pits available, we have to make do with what we have. I don't usually fly bombers; there are several issues with flight modeling and the lack of a proper bombsight hinders player operations (this is without the bombsight mod available here at CA). Of the stock ones, the only ones I've used are the B-57B and Il-28. And even these have "issues". But there's always some pervert that want to fly them so..... The Il-28 Beagle has already been covered; my mod of this is available here at CA and at my site. Albeit a 'sovi-ick blue', when it should be a gray, all the ini edits are done for you. The Tupelov's are another matter...since they are usually a side-by-side seating arrangment, they require a little more special handling. A stand-in pit, although it has no verticle bombsight, could be created by using the A-6 Intruder's or even the F-111 pit. The Dev A-Team's WW2 bomber pit could also be used, but it lacks the 'jet gauges'. You'll need to follow the basic procedures above, but since these all have a ground mapping radar of some kind, you'll need to make the other additions to get it to work. Below is what my Tu-16 Badger looks like, using the A-6 Intruder pit from WoV. NOTE: if using this in anything OTHER than WoV, you will need to have a copy of it, as you'll have to extract EVERYTHING that has anything to do with the cockpit, and create a sub-folder in you Badger called "cockpit", and place all the bit in there. You'll also need to A-6's avionics_ini, cockpit ini, and have the Tu-16's data ini in the main folder. You'd do the same edits for the pilot position as outlined above, of course in the renamed cockpit ini. REMEMBER: it is highly reccomened that the various inis be placed in the main aircraft's folder, and renamed to match that aircraft!!!! I hope this clears up some questions. If there are any more -and I'm sure there will be-, please feel free to post on the boards, and I'll try to answer them. But it's a pretty cut and dry process...simple text edits and some file moving. Happy Landings!! Wrench Kevin Stein

to say nothing about sextuple Sidewinder rails!!! Wrench kevin stein

I'm with Paul and Zur ... I thought it had something to do with dirty movies!!! (actualy, I think I've seen that one already....) Interesting side note on Project Thor; those that've read the Niven/Pournell novel "Footfall" will remember the strikes from orbit against the US tanks/APC in Kansas by the Snouts Wrench kevin stein

I really don't care if the damn missile fires (there probably won't be anything passing for it to shoot at). I just want the cursed thing to show up sitting on the rail, so I can blow it up (or the end users can blow it up) Here's from the data ini of the item in question (obvioulsy copied from the SA-2 launcher, with Moonjumpers fix for the Kytusha's applied). Pertinent section: I just want it sitting on the rail, same as the Guideline. Wonder if it isn't a weapons problem, it'self... Based on the existing SS-N-2 Styx... TIA!! Wrench Kevin Stein