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Mig29G and Su27SK/China J11 modified FM

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Credits to Marcfighter and Lindr2 for their excellent work on the original FMs

1. SU-27SK/China J11 FM modified based on Marcfighter's original model

It has been a quite disappointment to see little discussion about the performance issue of Marcfighter's SU27SK after 2008 patch of WOX series. I doubt if there is still anyone other than me playing su27 nowadays.

The issue is quite apparent - under hard mode, su-27 has too much maneuvability that makes AI players run this bird into endless cobra-like movements in aircombat, which is an obviously unsustainable way leading to eventual disadvantage in dogfights due to low energy. The FM is also not stable in yaw leading to uncontrollable rolls at high AoA. When we "human" controlling this bird, it is also likely to have a blackout every 2 seconds.

 

So there is where I start tinkering - beat the trend to run into high AoA, while also maintain an overall agility. In this model, You find a much less effective stabilizer, it has smaller angle, and faster rotating speed. The aileron is also modifed to synchronize the motion of rotating. Drag is also modified to fit this change.

 

The test drive shows quite a good result - slightly better than the stock F15A, while enable AI play to maintain its energy. I play a few 12 x Su27 vs 16 F15+8 F4 case under hard/hard setting and had the chance to win out in all the case.

2. Mig 29G FM based on Lindr2's recent release of Mig 29 BM FM.

 

First I would like to thank Lindr2 for presenting us his serious Mig 29 BM FM, which is based on real data from russian/soviet references. As such I don;t have to modify most parts of this FM. most of my change focused on beating the trend to rotate back at x-horizon at low speed (IAS < 350kmh). A minor change also fix the problem that the model rotate the aileron and stabilizer at the wrong direction.

 

The overall outcome is also pleasing. The modified FM gives you a 50/50 chance to beat the stock F16 in WOI, hard mode. AI also run it well and can fight F18 at close to 1:1 shotdown ratio.

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Hi, lucky you, am a fanatic of the Su-27, so when bumped into the download page and saw the Su-27 with Indonesian skin I ASAP d/Led it. To my disappointment, the Chinese version flew like crazy, yes like a sobra, jerking here and there, so difficult to control. Then, I though, why did I not try this: I did a little tweak on its data.ini, using the Su-27 Soviet from same Site MarcFighters. As well, using an other good d/l here re the HUD I simplu pasted it in my Su-27SK. And, lastly I also used an other d/l mod Su-Pylons by Colorado_Kid, which comes WITHOUT any info whether user must paste the NEW Pylons in the Gundata, so we can validate it. He satetd a/o (among others) that the NEW ++data.ini in the d/l will simply overwrite the old one (if I am not miistaken, the Su-30 Navy), to add WeapStations i.e. 7/L and 7/R.

 

I was so dumb I just follow the instruction, next ...mama mia!:yikes:There was a PILOT just hanging on the Centerline Station (load 4000kg), later I shall show u but first gotta dig my HDD in my other mini notebook. Then I check again its NEW ...data.ini. And I think I have found the culprit. In the D/Loaded NEW Su data.in, there was a line that I stongly believe should not have been there. This, I shall show you as wall later. How come UNDER the [CREW] as part if the plane's SYSTEM, he put the Su-Pylons??? Hence, the stowaya the HANGING pilot.

 

I must confess I am not yet familiar with this whole SYSTEM in any data.ini (know a limited part of it only), yes I decided to correct it by (my) wild guess, made a little change on it.

 

Now, the hanging pilot is gone, and I have NEW hardpoints namely Station 7/L and 8/R (1600kg each load capacity) that I could carry the haviest bombs or LGB. But to my surprise, NO new Pylons show up. Only whatever I put there appear and shot perfectly in combat.

 

I sahhl be back and will try upload them for you to see.

 

Lastly, I flew the Su-27 TNI-AU frequently. Last nite on an intercept mission I dropped ELEVEN Ausie Herc. Just one of them I destroyed using less than 90 of my 30cl. cannon.

 

Have a nice day...

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