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So why won't my Starfighter load up any bombs?

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F-4PhantomII    0

F-4PhantomII
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So after DL'ing all the patches... and the weapons pack.... and the F-104.... and the F-14, I tried running a single mission in my Starfighter (one of my favorite planes) and for some darn reason all I can load up is Fuel tanks?

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tank03    1

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So after DL'ing all the patches... and the weapons pack.... and the F-104.... and the F-14, I tried running a single mission in my Starfighter (one of my favorite planes) and for some darn reason all I can load up is Fuel tanks?

 

I'd start by checking the data .ini for the 104 and see what is listed under the weapon stations. I don't know anything about the 104, but if you wnat it to carry bombs you may have to add that weapon catagory to the ini. I'm sure there are more knowledgable folks here who could figure the problem in a second, but that's where I would start looking.

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Aintry
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So after DL'ing all the patches... and the weapons pack.... and the F-104.... and the F-14, I tried running a single mission in my Starfighter (one of my favorite planes) and for some darn reason all I can load up is Fuel tanks?

 

You'll have to edit the Data.ini and, possibly, the Loadout.ini files to allow the plane to use the weapons in the Weapons Pack. Check the WP instruction manual.

Edited by Tristan

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tank03    1

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I'd start by checking the data .ini for the 104 and see what is listed under the weapon stations. I don't know anything about the 104, but if you wnat it to carry bombs you may have to add that weapon catagory to the ini. I'm sure there are more knowledgable folks here who could figure the problem in a second, but that's where I would start looking.

 

Here's a "How to" article from the knowledge base on editing weapons:

http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=12099

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Wrench    9,874

Wrench
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The most important question.....

 

Which F-104???

 

There are at least 4 by Ajundar, plus the G from 3rd Wire.

 

To get the loads right, we need to know which model.

 

Wrench

kevin stein

Weaponeer, 3rd Class

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F-4PhantomII    0

F-4PhantomII
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The most important question.....

 

Which F-104???

 

There are at least 4 by Ajundar, plus the G from 3rd Wire.

 

To get the loads right, we need to know which model.

 

Wrench

kevin stein

Weaponeer, 3rd Class

Third WIre 104 G... here is the loadout data

// Station 1 = Left Wingtip

// Station 2 = Right Wingtip

// Station 3 = Left Underwing Pylon

// Station 4 = Right Underwing Pylon

// Station 5 = Centerline

// Station 6 = Fueslage Sidewinder (replaces station 5)

// Station 7 = Fueslage Sidewinder (replaces station 5)

 

[AirToAir]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

 

[AirToAirLongRange]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[03].WeaponType=Tank195_F104

Loadout[03].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=Tank195_F104

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

 

[Attack]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank170_F104

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank170_F104

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[03].WeaponType=LAU-3A

Loadout[03].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=LAU-3A

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

 

Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank170_F104

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank170_F104

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[03].WeaponType=M117

Loadout[03].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=M117

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

 

[sEAD]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank170_F104

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank170_F104

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[03].WeaponType=LAU-3A

Loadout[03].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=LAU-3A

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

 

[Anti-Ship]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank170_F104

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank170_F104

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[03].WeaponType=M117

Loadout[03].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=M117

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

 

[Recon]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[03].WeaponType=Tank195_F104

Loadout[03].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=Tank195_F104

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[05].WeaponType=RECONPOD

Loadout[05].Quantity=1

Is that the info I am looking for?

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+Dave    2,322

Dave
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Hey LT, drop me a pm sir.

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Aintry    0

Aintry
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Third WIre 104 G... here is the loadout data

// Station 1 = Left Wingtip

// Station 2 = Right Wingtip

// Station 3 = Left Underwing Pylon

// Station 4 = Right Underwing Pylon

// Station 5 = Centerline

// Station 6 = Fueslage Sidewinder (replaces station 5)

// Station 7 = Fueslage Sidewinder (replaces station 5)

 

[AirToAir]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

 

[AirToAirLongRange]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[03].WeaponType=Tank195_F104

Loadout[03].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=Tank195_F104

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

 

[Attack]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank170_F104

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank170_F104

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[03].WeaponType=LAU-3A

Loadout[03].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=LAU-3A

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

 

Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank170_F104

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank170_F104

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[03].WeaponType=M117

Loadout[03].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=M117

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

 

[sEAD]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank170_F104

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank170_F104

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[03].WeaponType=LAU-3A

Loadout[03].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=LAU-3A

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

 

[Anti-Ship]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank170_F104

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank170_F104

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[03].WeaponType=M117

Loadout[03].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=M117

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

 

[Recon]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=AIM-9B

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[03].WeaponType=Tank195_F104

Loadout[03].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=Tank195_F104

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[05].WeaponType=RECONPOD

Loadout[05].Quantity=1

Is that the info I am looking for?

 

I think you need to focus on the 'AttachmentType' at each weapon station in the 'Data.ini' file. Stock des. is probably 'NATO'; you'll have to change that to something more specific, like 'USAF'.

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Wrench    9,874

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That loadout is correct.

 

This is what you're looking for, in the data ini: (btw, this is the corrected data)

 

[LeftWingtipStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=1

StationGroupID=1

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-3.304,-0.176,-0.513

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,90.0

LoadLimit=250.0

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,FT

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=

LaunchRailNodeName=missile_rail_wt_left

LaunchRailHeight=0.15

LaunchRailMass=24.95

FuelTankName=Tank170_F104

 

[RightWingtipStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=2

StationGroupID=1

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=3.304,-0.176,-0.513

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,-90.0

LoadLimit=250.0

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,FT

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=

LaunchRailNodeName=missile_rail_wt_right

LaunchRailHeight=0.15

LaunchRailMass=24.95

FuelTankName=Tank170_F104

 

[LeftWingStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=3

StationGroupID=2

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-1.883,0.400,-0.665

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0

LoadLimit=500

AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP,CGR,ASM,IFP,FT

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=pylon_left_inner

PylonMass=72.58

PylonDragArea=0.02

FuelTankName=Tank195_F104

 

[RightWingStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=4

StationGroupID=2

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=1.883,0.400,-0.665

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0

LoadLimit=500

AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP,CGR,ASM,IFP,FT

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=pylon_right_inner

PylonMass=72.58

PylonDragArea=0.02

FuelTankName=Tank195_F104

 

[CenterlineStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=5

StationGroupID=3

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=0.0,2.73,-0.954

AttachmentAngles=0.0,2.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0

LoadLimit=1000

AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,NUC,RCN

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=Centre_pylon

PylonMass=57.61

PylonDragArea=0.005

 

[sidewinderStation1]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=6

StationGroupID=3

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-0.251,3.148,-1.090

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0

LoadLimit=250.0

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=miss_rail_centerline

PylonMass=34.02

PylonDragArea=0.005

 

[sidewinderStation2]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=7

StationGroupID=3

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=0.251,3.148,-1.090

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0

LoadLimit=250.0

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=miss_rail_centerline

PylonMass=34.02

PylonDragArea=0.005

 

If you open your data ini, you'll see the AttachmentType=NATO . This is now wrong for use with the Weapons pak

Copy/Paste in info above directly OVER the weapons station in you 104G data ini. That should get you going.

 

You guys are all jumping ahead of me...I just started on editing the Paki Zippers...give me some time to get caught up! There's still all the Indian MiGs, (most PLAAF stuff is done and posted); I haven't even started on the RAF, ADA, and all the other Friendly Powers, let alone of Commies and Close Buddies!!! :wink:

 

Wrench

Kevin Stein

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F-4PhantomII    0

F-4PhantomII
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That loadout is correct.

 

This is what you're looking for, in the data ini: (btw, this is the corrected data)

 

[LeftWingtipStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=1

StationGroupID=1

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-3.304,-0.176,-0.513

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,90.0

LoadLimit=250.0

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,FT

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=

LaunchRailNodeName=missile_rail_wt_left

LaunchRailHeight=0.15

LaunchRailMass=24.95

FuelTankName=Tank170_F104

 

[RightWingtipStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=2

StationGroupID=1

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=3.304,-0.176,-0.513

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,-90.0

LoadLimit=250.0

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,FT

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=

LaunchRailNodeName=missile_rail_wt_right

LaunchRailHeight=0.15

LaunchRailMass=24.95

FuelTankName=Tank170_F104

 

[LeftWingStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=3

StationGroupID=2

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-1.883,0.400,-0.665

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0

LoadLimit=500

AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP,CGR,ASM,IFP,FT

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=pylon_left_inner

PylonMass=72.58

PylonDragArea=0.02

FuelTankName=Tank195_F104

 

[RightWingStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=4

StationGroupID=2

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=1.883,0.400,-0.665

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0

LoadLimit=500

AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP,CGR,ASM,IFP,FT

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=pylon_right_inner

PylonMass=72.58

PylonDragArea=0.02

FuelTankName=Tank195_F104

 

[CenterlineStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=5

StationGroupID=3

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=0.0,2.73,-0.954

AttachmentAngles=0.0,2.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0

LoadLimit=1000

AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,NUC,RCN

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=Centre_pylon

PylonMass=57.61

PylonDragArea=0.005

 

[sidewinderStation1]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=6

StationGroupID=3

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-0.251,3.148,-1.090

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0

LoadLimit=250.0

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=miss_rail_centerline

PylonMass=34.02

PylonDragArea=0.005

 

[sidewinderStation2]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=7

StationGroupID=3

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=0.251,3.148,-1.090

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0

LoadLimit=250.0

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=miss_rail_centerline

PylonMass=34.02

PylonDragArea=0.005

 

If you open your data ini, you'll see the AttachmentType=NATO . This is now wrong for use with the Weapons pak

Copy/Paste in info above directly OVER the weapons station in you 104G data ini. That should get you going.

 

You guys are all jumping ahead of me...I just started on editing the Paki Zippers...give me some time to get caught up! There's still all the Indian MiGs, (most PLAAF stuff is done and posted); I haven't even started on the RAF, ADA, and all the other Friendly Powers, let alone of Commies and Close Buddies!!! :wink:

 

Wrench

Kevin Stein

 

 

Thanks bro! I am now driving a Starfighter w/ Weapons... and getting shot down like crazy in it...LOL. Guess I will just have to practice with it.

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FOTF    0

FOTF
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Why would you use a hot rod for mud moving?

 

That's what the 105 is for.

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F-4PhantomII
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Why would you use a hot rod for mud moving?

 

That's what the 105 is for.

the 104 is acctually a very stable bombing platform, just as long as you keep the speed up.

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Wrench    9,874

Wrench
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True! I can actually hit the ground when bombing!!! :biggrin:

 

Wrench

Kevin Stein

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JediMaster    451

JediMaster
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Of course you can, but what about the bombs? :wink:

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Wrench    9,874

Wrench
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We were talking about bombs?????

 

Wrench

kevin stein

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+ghostrider883    526

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the 104 is acctually a very stable bombing platform, just as long as you keep the speed up.

Right. The Pakistani F-104s scored more hits with bombs then F-86s and B-57s. One many missions,their F-104s did not carry any bombs and carried out harassing gun attacks on Indian airfields(one a couple of occaisions, with disastrous effect for Pakistanis and Jordanians). They used their F-104Bs in possibly the most unusual and crazy type of photo-recon missions.

Edited by ghostrider883

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