Bear /BlackJacks at base and Tornado F3 Intercept video

[+MigBuster]

Check it - should run in Windows Media player

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_72...s=1&bbcws=1

 

 

From here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/video_and_audio/default.stm (Inside Russian Bomber Base)

[Atreides]

Thanks. That Blackjack taking off looked real nice.

[Nesher]

nice vid...!

btw, the BlackJack is kinda like a replica of the B-1B?

[+Typhoid]

nice vid...!

btw, the BlackJack is kinda like a replica of the B-1B?

 

its about a 1/3 bigger, goes about a 1/3 farther, and can dash twice as fast. bomb load is about the same except the Blackjack will carry a slew of AS-15's and their new conventional version.

[Nesher]

Typhoid.. it's not the size that matters :P

Edited February 28, 2008 by Nesher

[+JediMaster]

I don't think I'd classify the 160 as "1/3 larger" than a B-1B. It may be 1/3 heavier, or carry 1/3 larger payload or something, but the dimensions don't add up to that. Maybe 15-20% larger max...

[+SidDogg]

"Russia has put its bombers back in the sky..." ---BBC News

 

oh that's great

 

and just at the time they decide to trash the F-14.....

[+Typhoid]

I don't think I'd classify the 160 as "1/3 larger" than a B-1B. It may be 1/3 heavier, or carry 1/3 larger payload or something, but the dimensions don't add up to that. Maybe 15-20% larger max...

 

i was speaking in very broad, general terms. No argument. Did you compute those figures as internal volume/weight? I don't actually have those numbers available at my fingertips, just curious. The point was that it is a larger, heavier aircraft with longer range and a much higher dash speed that carries a large cruise missile load.

[+JediMaster]

Yeah, it's more designed to the spec the B-1A was then the B-1B we put into service, but I'm sure its RCS is closer to a B-52 than a B-1B!

 

As for numbers, I had a book or something that talked about it and actually had two line diagrams superimposed so you could see the relative sizes (wings swept back), that's where I got the size comparison from.

 

Let's see what numbers I can find:

B-1B:

L: 146ft (44.5m)

H: 34 ft (10.4m)

W: 137 ft out, 79 ft swept (41.8, 24.1)

Empty weight: 190k lbs (86k kg)

MTOW: 477k lbs (215k kg)

power: 4x 30k thrust GE (13.5k kg)

range: 7500 miles unrefueled, 3500 with normal payload (12k km, 5600km)

 

Tu-160:

L: 54.1m

H: 13.1m

W: 55.7m out, 35.6m swept

Empty weight: 110k kg

MTOW: 275k kg

power 4x 25k kg thrust HK-32

range: ~12k km

 

So, from these rough numbers the 160 is just over 20% longer, 33% larger wingspan unswept, 48% larger swept, 25% taller, 28% heavier, and similar range without refueling.