BirdDogICT 3 Posted July 28, 2009 Anyone here using force feedback headsets? How do they compare to force feedback controllers? I'm asking because I'm not willing to give up my CH controllers but would like to add force feedback to OFF to be able to feel engine vibrations, changing control surfaces, bullet impacts, etc. I'm thinking about buying the eDimensional - AudioFX2 Force Feedback Gaming Headset...anyone have experience with it? How about using TrackClip Pro with it? Thanks, BirdDogICT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OlPaint01 0 Posted July 28, 2009 Hello Birddog I just got eDimensional's force feedback headset. The TIR ProClip fits very nicely above the left ear phone cup on the head band. The only thing "Force Feed Back" about the rig is that it enhances the game sounds with an enhanced Bass frequency response (rumble) that makes for a nice stereo sound without a big sub-woofer. I have yet to noticed an enhanced directional surround-sound effect that the eDimensional's advertisement mentions. It is just a well made Stereo Headset with noise-canceling mic. I actually bought the headset for the bundled noise-canceling microphone. It plugs into the headset and works with eDimensional's utility called Voice Buddy which converts spoken commands into equivalent keyboard commands. I got interested in that feature when Homeboy mentioned he used Game Commander by MindMaker to control his sim by voice. It allows him to move a lot of the sim commands off his keyboard and joystick buttons. When I tried to register my trial copy of GC I discovered that it no longer is marketed. A Google search revealed eDimensional Website with this alternate Voice Command software. And rest is history... Voice Buddy has an editor that understands XML. It takes advantage of Microsoft's Voice API SDK. There is already support for 60 game titles, like FSX, MSFS, CFS2 and CFS3, etc. I am learning how to build the voice to command set now for OFF. OlPaint01 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
77Scout 3 Posted July 28, 2009 (edited) What does it do? I Googled it but see no basic explaination of what does for you...what feedback are you getting? Curious. Ooops, OlPaint answered while I was typing. Thanks! Edited July 28, 2009 by 77Scout Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duce Lewis 3 Posted July 29, 2009 BirdDog, Here's a link to the Buttkicker review on Combatace http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showt...p;hl=Buttkicker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rickitycrate 10 Posted July 29, 2009 Along the lines of the butt kicker you can buy a gaming chair. My chair gives me the sensation of sitting in a WWI crate. I sense the rpm's of the motor and archie explosions. It's driven by ingame sounds. IMHO this really ups the immersion. The chairs come in different styles, mine has a base so I am not so low to the floor and are widely available. Hey but what do I know. It's a gas when you are getting ready for takeoff and it's quiet and then you fire up the engine and you feel it in your legs butt and spine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Check Six 2 Posted July 29, 2009 Hello Birddog I just got eDimensional's force feedback headset. The TIR ProClip fits very nicely above the left ear phone cup on the head band. The only thing "Force Feed Back" about the rig is that it enhances the game sounds with an enhanced Bass frequency response (rumble) that makes for a nice stereo sound without a big sub-woofer. I have yet to noticed an enhanced directional surround-sound effect that the eDimensional's advertisement mentions. It is just a well made Stereo Headset with noise-canceling mic. I actually bought the headset for the bundled noise-canceling microphone. It plugs into the headset and works with eDimensional's utility called Voice Buddy which converts spoken commands into equivalent keyboard commands. I got interested in that feature when Homeboy mentioned he used Game Commander by MindMaker to control his sim by voice. It allows him to move a lot of the sim commands off his keyboard and joystick buttons. When I tried to register my trial copy of GC I discovered that it no longer is marketed. A Google search revealed eDimensional Website with this alternate Voice Command software. And rest is history... Voice Buddy has an editor that understands XML. It takes advantage of Microsoft's Voice API SDK. There is already support for 60 game titles, like FSX, MSFS, CFS2 and CFS3, etc. I am learning how to build the voice to command set now for OFF. OlPaint01 Anyone know if the software will work with any headset/microphone combination? I just bought a Logitech 7.1 speaker surround sound gaming headset and microphone. Wondered whether it will work with that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ONETINSOLDIER 2 Posted July 29, 2009 force feedback headset? whats it do? rattle your head around? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dej 17 Posted July 29, 2009 Anyone know if the software will work with any headset/microphone combination? I just bought a Logitech 7.1 speaker surround sound gaming headset and microphone. Wondered whether it will work with that? Steve (and Others), This is worth a try too and should work with any headset. I think the demo is time-limited, so it's not free, but I used it a couple of years ago and found it worked well. I expect it's improved since then. Worth one's time to evaluate anyway. Diverseware Voice Activated Commands Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OlPaint01 0 Posted July 29, 2009 (edited) Hello All Here is the link to Voice Buddy by eDimensional: http://www.edimensional.com/index.php?cPat...6acf765ac12e2a9 The program listens for your voice commands input through the low noise microphone, converts the commands to sim control commands, and then talks back to you through the ear phones with a confirmation response. All Programmable BTW. For example;If "Attack targeted aircraft" is the voice command. "Roger, Attacking targeted aircraft" is the response. The software issues an "A" command to the sim. Easy Peasy. The force feedback in the headphones is just an enhancement of the Bass Frequencies. You feel an slight extra vibration for the engine or MG sounds. Like a high quality set of stereo headphones would give. OlPaint01 Edited July 29, 2009 by OlPaint01 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BirdDogICT 3 Posted July 29, 2009 Hello All Here is the link to Voice Buddy by eDimensional: http://www.edimensional.com/index.php?cPat...6acf765ac12e2a9 The program listens for your voice commands input through the low noise microphone, converts the commands to sim control commands, and then talks back to you through the ear phones with a confirmation response. All Programmable BTW. For example;If "Attack targeted aircraft" is the voice command. "Roger, Attacking targeted aircraft" is the response. The software issues an "A" command to the sim. Easy Peasy. The force feedback in the headphones is just an enhancement of the Bass Frequencies. You feel an slight extra vibration for the engine or MG sounds. Like a high quality set of stereo headphones would give. OlPaint01 Thanks, That gives me a better idea of what to expect. With Voice Buddy, fully programmable CH controllers, and Track IR, I should be able to beat a few more of those pesky AI pilots. Too bad they're so lame (tongue planted firmly in cheek). The devs have made good on their promise that you're lucky to survive beyond 17 hours, so any device that increases immersion and helps me survive longer is worth it. Cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wels 2 Posted July 29, 2009 Hello, i bought a very cheap one (9 Euros) ata local Aldi store, and the bass is really impressive. However i still prefer to sit in front of my PC without looking like a Cyborg lol. Ok, TackIR will come next, or at least after a decent graphics card .. But i have never heard of this "buttkicker" before lol Greetings, Catfish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameljockey 3 Posted July 29, 2009 Go to the Main page here at CA and there's a link to a Buttkicker review. CJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRUMPYBEAR 1 Posted July 29, 2009 Along the lines of the butt kicker you can buy a gaming chair. My chair gives me the sensation of sitting in a WWI crate. I sense the rpm's of the motor and archie explosions. It's driven by ingame sounds. IMHO this really ups the immersion. The chairs come in different styles, mine has a base so I am not so low to the floor and are widely available. Hey but what do I know. It's a gas when you are getting ready for takeoff and it's quiet and then you fire up the engine and you feel it in your legs butt and spine. Rickitycrate I'm curious as to what brand/ model of gaming chair you have. Cheers GB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rickitycrate 10 Posted July 30, 2009 GB, I am using an X Rocker game chair. If you do a search you will come up with a number of sellers. My spin on this is of course I got mine at a thrift store. Saved $100. I can speak for mine, a discontinued model, and say it truely adds to the experience. If a guy bought one at a Wal-Mart and found it to be unsatisfactory they do have a good return policy. I'm just sayin'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dej 17 Posted July 30, 2009 GB, I am using an X Rocker game chair. If you do a search you will come up with a number of sellers. My spin on this is of course I got mine at a thrift store. Saved $100.I can speak for mine, a discontinued model, and say it truely adds to the experience. If a guy bought one at a Wal-Mart and found it to be unsatisfactory they do have a good return policy. I'm just sayin'. Here's a link to a previous post that Rickitycrate made on the subject LINK I must say it does sound good and there are some bargains to be had on eBay. I'm intrigued by the remounting on an office chair, does that mean taking the two chairs apart and cobbling together the force feedback variant? Any chance of some photos of the setup, RC? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rickitycrate 10 Posted July 30, 2009 The mount on my game chair had a post that fit into a receiver hole in the base. I simply removed the chair from an office chair and then stuck the game chair onto the office chair base. My model of game chair did not have wheels on the base you see and it was a bit too low to the floor. Now I can roll around and sit properly at my desk. So easy even a caveman could do it. Geico. I don't want to oversell these chairs but if you have been around as long as I and have been on/in any sort of old flimsy, rickety, lightweight conveience that is motorized you know the "feel" the engine in your bones and how when you reach your destination you can still feel it for a brief while. If you could imagine how it felt to be in a running WWI warbird that's what I'm talking about. Now what to do about g-force. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rickitycrate 10 Posted July 30, 2009 (edited) Dej, because you asked. This is the original base. Edited July 30, 2009 by Rickitycrate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rickitycrate 10 Posted July 30, 2009 This is the gamec hair mount and office chair base. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rickitycrate 10 Posted July 30, 2009 This is the chair showing the armrests, inpu/ control panel and subwoofer in the back of the chair. There are also speakers to each side of that headrest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites