Lt. James Cater 62 Posted December 28, 2009 (edited) A warning to everyone! Be really, REALLY, REALLY, careful when you are bored and messing around online!!!! Idiot me managed to accidently download some CP the other day while BUI. I figured, "no problem, i'll just delete it and that's it". Something didn't feel right so i researched a bit and was stunned by what i found out about the fate of others who did the same. Tuesday, i'm going to get a pick up a bunch of gear and obliterate my current HD. First i'm wiping it with some software and then i'm going to remove it and toss it in the trash. I'd rather start from scratch with a new one than deal with the Feds sometime down the road. Edited December 28, 2009 by Lt. James Cater Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDSnypes 0 Posted December 28, 2009 huh,?? whats a CP? wats a BUI?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostWulfe 0 Posted December 28, 2009 huh,?? whats a CP? wats a BUI?? A certain type of nude pics that are against the law in the U.S. to even think of. (child porn) On that note it has happened to the best of us man...Just wipe your hard drive...You'll be ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. James Cater 62 Posted December 28, 2009 huh,?? whats a CP? wats a BUI?? CP-Child Pornography BUI-Browsing While Intoxicated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest rscsjsuso5 Posted December 28, 2009 just want to give my two cents to this problem if its CP then find it and delete it, but for BUI thats okay , but if BUI made you download CP then thats not good ,plus if its spyware /virus from the CP then their is a problem. i would suggest to use firefox more secure than ie my opinion and two cents . hoep all goes well lt. james enjoy ur holidays and upcoming new year and also maybe a resolution no more BUI . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaverickMike 10 Posted December 28, 2009 Not to make you all paranoid or anything but there is no secure way to wipe a hard drive. The only way is to get rid of it is to burn it. I have a friend who works in computer forensics and the stories he tells me are just incredible. Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. James Cater 62 Posted December 28, 2009 Not to make you all paranoid or anything but there is no secure way to wipe a hard drive. The only way is to get rid of it is to burn it. I have a friend who works in computer forensics and the stories he tells me are just incredible. Mike I suspected something like that, i've actually figured on taking the HD apart and smashing it with a hammer. BTW...BUI should read Browsing Under the Influence. I did do virus and spyware checks but nothing was there. Guess the safe thing will be to pick up a new HD tommorrow and be more careful in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fubar512 1,350 Posted December 28, 2009 Not to make you all paranoid or anything but there is no secure way to wipe a hard drive. The only way is to get rid of it is to burn it. I have a friend who works in computer forensics and the stories he tells me are just incredible. Mike Not really true. I can easily render a drive 100% unreadable by anyone, without smashing it or burning it. Is your friend a betting man? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaverickMike 10 Posted December 28, 2009 (edited) If your talking about the magnetic method I asked him the very same question but apparently it doesnt completely erase everything. He wouldnt go into detail on how its possible to recover the data however. Mike Edited December 28, 2009 by MaverickMike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted December 28, 2009 That's why I bring my old HDDs to work now...we have an industrial degausser here that's certified for destruction of classified drives, tapes, and disks. It not only trashes the media, the motors in the HDD no longer even work properly! You can hear the stuff get thrown around inside when the capacitors discharge and the strong magnetic field is briefly generated. No one's getting anything off my old stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastCargo 412 Posted December 29, 2009 Jedi, Hey, if I sent you a box of 3.5 floppys, could you run them through that machine? I keep thinking even a magnet that can lift cars (like at a junkyard) isn't strong enough... FC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted December 29, 2009 Sure, I just did that yesterday. The field in the machine is calibrated especially to scramble these things. It has to be a moving field, a static field like one of those uber magnets likely generates will wipe SOME but not all. I once tried a heavy magnet on a VHS tape, just put the tape on top of it for a few minutes...I couldn't see a single effect. Then I started moving the tape and magnet all around each other like an electron orbiting a proton...the longer I did it, the more the tape degraded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ONETINSOLDIER 2 Posted December 29, 2009 (edited) NIST 800-88 Enhanced Secure Erase what it does is change the in-drive encryption key, and it only takes seconds to do as opposed to DoD5220 block erase, which can take days on a 100 gig drive Degaussers are used to erase magnetic data on disk drives. They create high intensity magnetic fields that erase all magnetic recordings in a hard disk drive, including the sector header information on drive data tracks. (tells the head where to sit) Oh yeah, cater, you think it was wise mentioning it in a open forum, big brother and echelon are always watching. Edited December 29, 2009 by ONETINSOLDIER Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ONETINSOLDIER 2 Posted December 29, 2009 addendum; FC,,,,BURN THEM maverick,,basically, it approximates what is missing to fill in the blanks, like oversampling, kinda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarlosemoG 0 Posted December 31, 2009 I've been fooled way too many times while using P2P software like Frostwire, Emule and the like. Lots of sickos out there sharing video and image files (porn or otherwise) to which they gave names that wouldn't make you suspect it's actually CP. Dumb question of the day: what would happen if you put your HD in the microwave and fried it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DWCAce 19 Posted December 31, 2009 You'd probably have to go shopping for a new microwave :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fubar512 1,350 Posted December 31, 2009 If your talking about the magnetic method I asked him the very same question but apparently it doesnt completely erase everything. He wouldnt go into detail on how its possible to recover the data however. Mike I have done work for OSHA and the IRS. I have access to the same type of machine that Jedi's probably referring to. It trashes everything, even the microcode ID in the drive's chips...and, it's also used by the NSA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+whiteknight06604 931 Posted December 31, 2009 I would think that it would be simpler to smash the hell out of it with a sledge hammer then throw the remains in the fireplace? it sure would relieve some stress. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaverickMike 10 Posted December 31, 2009 I have done work for OSHA and the IRS. I have access to the same type of machine that Jedi's probably referring to. It trashes everything, even the microcode ID in the drive's chips...and, it's also used by the NSA. Lol that wasnt quite what I had in mind when i mentioned the 'magnetic' type. I was thinking along the lines of a general household magnet being run over the disk..... From what my mate says most CP offenders seem to think that they can rub the evidence of their crimes off the disk in this way, or by simply reformatting and this is the way many of them get caught. If you ask me all CP offenders should be dropped on an island in the middle of nowhere and left to fend for themselves. Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruggbutt 45 Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) Not to make you all paranoid or anything but there is no secure way to wipe a hard drive. The only way is to get rid of it is to burn it. I have a friend who works in computer forensics and the stories he tells me are just incredible. So DBAN doesn't work? Cuz I accidently got some bondage midget pr0n in a download and I feel very ashamed. Edited December 31, 2009 by Ruggbutt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
