RAF_Louvert 101 Posted May 6, 2011 . Glad to have you back Olham, I hope all is well with you. And you are even closer Sir, but still not correct. The point is still waiting for someone. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted May 6, 2011 (edited) Found this in a forum and hope the man knew what he said: The WW1 air ace Guynemer, who had fifty-four victories, had twenty-seven palms on his riband, some of which, I think, were the silver class instituted later in the war to replace five bronze palms. Guynemer also had dozens of bronze and silver stars. His riband was about eighteen inches long! The WW2 ace Pierre Clostermann accumulated about a dozen palms. So, the number should be 27 palms. (Not sure about 54 victories - I thought he had 53) Edited May 6, 2011 by Olham Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lewie 7 Posted May 6, 2011 Found this in a forum and hope the man knew what he said: The WW1 air ace Guynemer, who had fifty-four victories, had twenty-seven palms on his riband, some of which, I think, were the silver class instituted later in the war to replace five bronze palms. Guynemer also had dozens of bronze and silver stars. His riband was about eighteen inches long! The WW2 ace Pierre Clostermann accumulated about a dozen palms. So, the number should be 27 palms. (Not sure about 54 victories - I thought he had 53) I should have known that Louvert, who made his own nearly authentic WWI French Air Service uniform, would have a tough question about French medals. I was interested in Guynemer's Nupe back in '04 as I was scratch building small scale R/C model of one of his N17s. I have a photo of it at a local fun-fly.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAF_Louvert 101 Posted May 6, 2011 . Lewie, that's a very nice little RC model you built there Sir. Also, this will be the only tough question concerning French medals in the contest, I promise. Sorry Olham, I can not say if your answer is either right or wrong as you need to wait 36 hours before you can try to answer the same question again, (as per the rules in the first post). So this one is still open for someone to claim. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hasse Wind 46 Posted May 6, 2011 Okay, I'll help you guys a little. The answer is 26 palms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lewie 7 Posted May 6, 2011 Okay, I'll help you guys a little. The answer is 26 palms. Isn't that a town in S. California? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAF_Louvert 101 Posted May 6, 2011 . There you go Hasse Wind, 26 it is! :yes: Though I would have also accepted 27 as I have seen that amount noted once or twice as well, (however, 26 seems to be the general concensus). Lewie...hee, hee. So then, here are the standings after round 3: Dej..................... 5 1/2 points Olham............... 3 points Lewie................. 2 1/2 points Hasse Wind..... 1 point The next picture will be posted at 12:30 p.m. GMT, May 7, (8:30 a.m. May 7, on the east coast of the US). Have a nice cuppa' all set to go so you can dive right in at that time. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAF_Louvert 101 Posted May 7, 2011 . Thinking caps on tight everyone? Computers all warmed up and DXTBmp queued to your OFF 'skins' folder? Hot cuppa' coffee for sipping? Right then, here we go! . 1. Who was the RFC pilot that flew this paint scheme, and what is the plane type and model? 2. While sporting this paint scheme which squadron did this pilot fly for, (and later become CO of), and during what year of the Great War? 3. What were this pilot's nicknames, (he had two), and what did he eventually go on to become? Good Luck! Lou . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted May 7, 2011 (edited) 1. Who was the RFC pilot that flew this paint scheme, and what is the plane type and model? 2. While sporting this paint scheme which squadron did this pilot fly for, (and later become CO of), and during what year of the Great War? 3. What were this pilot's nicknames, (he had two), and what did he eventually go on to become? 1. Sir Arthur T Harris ; Sopwith Strutter A2 2. 45 Sqdn, RFC (1917) 3. "Bomber Harris" He later became the Commander of the British Bomber Command and gave the order for the bombing of Dresden. More accusive was the name "Butcher Harris", which you perhaps meant? Edited May 7, 2011 by Olham Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAF_Louvert 101 Posted May 7, 2011 . Yikes! You were ready to pounch on that one Olham. Spot on with all your answers too Sir. The lastest standings after round 4 show a new leader: Olham................ 6 points Dej..................... 5 1/2 points Lewie................. 2 1/2 points Hasse Wind....... 1 point Stay watchful my friends. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted May 7, 2011 I was ready indeed - we want to keep it thrilling, don't we? Thanks a lot for doing all this work - great idea, Lou ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAF_Louvert 101 Posted May 10, 2011 . I am back in town for the day and near my computer, so I think it's time for a... WILD CARD! For one point, what is the technical name for the British plane colour that was a greenish brown when first applied, but which darkened with age and sun exposure to a chocolate brown, and what were the two pigments used to create it back in the day? Cheers! Lou . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dej 17 Posted May 10, 2011 Ministry of Munitions Proctective Covering No. 10. Otherwise known simply as 'PC 10' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) Well, as you left one point unanswered, Dej - here is the recepy of "P10": For one hundred gallons of PC10 the recipe is: 260 pounds nitro Cellulose syrup 74 pounds of pigments in the following proportions: 40 pounds yellow ochre 30 pounds umber 2 pounds 8 ounces Red Ochre 1 pound 8 ounces Chinese Blue Which was then added to: 20 gallons Acetone or Methyl ethyl ketone 15 gallons Amyl Acetate 15 Gallons benzol 15 gallons Methylated spirit And here is the whole of the info for everyone interested: http://www.southsearepublic.org/article/1723/read/pc10_and_doping_variation_in_wwi/ Edited May 10, 2011 by Olham Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dej 17 Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) Well, I thought the chance of half a point would be better than none and all that lot was too much to type up on an iPhone! Although, if Lou were using posts over at The Aerodrome for his source then he might be expecting 'natural oxide of iron (yellow ochre) and lamp-black (or carbon black)' Edited May 10, 2011 by Dej Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hasse Wind 46 Posted May 10, 2011 I always thought the two most important pigments of PC 10 were gastrointestinal in origin. I guess I was wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) I always thought the two most important pigments of PC 10 were gastrointestinal in origin. I guess I was wrong. Uuuuuhhhh! That was nasty. Understandable, but nasty. Edited May 10, 2011 by Olham Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAF_Louvert 101 Posted May 10, 2011 . Dej, I would have been happy with natural oxide of iron (i.e. yellow ochre) and lamp-black, but the 1916 formula given by Olham is also one of the options. The mixture varied based on availability of materials during the war. And PC10 is quite right for the technical name. So 1/2 point to you both. Hasse Wind, it's possible there is a version of that paint where the pigments are gastrointestinal in origin, but I don't have that formula. The standings after round 5 are: Olham................ 6 1/2 points Dej..................... 6 points Lewie................. 2 1/2 points Hasse Wind....... 1 point Cheers! Lou . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAF_Louvert 101 Posted May 13, 2011 . Just an update concerning our ongoing contest. I have been out quite a bit these last few days and am leaving now until Sunday night. But I will be posting the next round of questions when I return. Safe flights everyone. Cheers! Lou . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted May 13, 2011 Good journey, Lou; come back in one piece! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAF_Louvert 101 Posted May 26, 2011 . Looks like I will be in town now until next Tuesday, so we can once again get back to our contest. I will post the next pic at 11:00am GMT on Friday May 27. Be ready! Cheers! Lou . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted May 26, 2011 Alright, Lou! I hope you can fly some missions now? I wish you blue skies, and some fine sorties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAF_Louvert 101 Posted May 27, 2011 . Let's get back to it. Everyone ready? Here we go! 1. Who was the pilot that flew this paint scheme, and what is the plane type and model? 2. While sporting this paint scheme which squadron did this pilot fly for, and during what year of the Great War? 3. Who was the famous German ace this pilot shot down to become an ace himself? 4. This pilot scored none of his victories while flying the aeroplane shown above; so what aeroplane type was he flying when he sent down his opponents? Good Luck! Lou . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted May 27, 2011 Pilot: Norman Miers McGregor - British Plane: Nieuport 17 bis from RNAS-6, 1917. He scored in a Sopwith Camel. In September 1917, having scored 4 victories with 6 Naval Squadron, Norman Miers MacGregor was posted to 10 Naval Squadron. Flying the Sopwith Camel, he scored his 5th victory on 15 September, downing the first Fokker DR.1 of the war. The Triplane exploded when it crashed, killing the pilot, Kurt Wolff of Jasta 11. MacGregor later scored two more victories and accrued 325 hours of operational flight time during the war. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DukeIronHand 8 Posted May 27, 2011 (edited) Pilot: Norman Miers McGregor - British Plane: Nieuport 17 bis from RNAS-6, 1917. He scored in a Sopwith Camel. In September 1917, having scored 4 victories with 6 Naval Squadron, Norman Miers MacGregor was posted to 10 Naval Squadron. Flying the Sopwith Camel, he scored his 5th victory on 15 September, downing the first Fokker DR.1 of the war. The Triplane exploded when it crashed, killing the pilot, Kurt Wolff of Jasta 11. MacGregor later scored two more victories and accrued 325 hours of operational flight time during the war. Okay then...errr...what size shoes did he wear? On a serious note sounds like you have a good source for info. Edit: Spelling...more coffee needed. Edited May 27, 2011 by DukeIronHand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
