colmack Posted August 23, 2011 Posted August 23, 2011 (edited) witch numbers do you need to change to make a SAM not as good? the thing is very "Hollywood-esque" it basically does a 180 and comes after the target gets on your six and changes course to match yours until it gets ya Edited August 23, 2011 by colmack Quote
+MigBuster Posted August 23, 2011 Posted August 23, 2011 Crikey - not from what I have observed - in SF2 they are really dumbed down compared to SF1. Which model of SAM in particular and what are you doing to beat it? SAMs will change course - they are guided and it depends on the model of SAM and countermeasures you employ as to whether you stand a chance of survival. However as in real life once you have defeated the radar lock from the ground (e.g Fansong) or its gone past you the thing is defeated - this is NOT "hollywood-esk" at all. Do you play with a TrackIR? because without that its difficult to get a 3D perspective on things and assume its doing something totally different to what its actually doing. Quote
+Fubar512 Posted August 23, 2011 Posted August 23, 2011 (edited) Very Hollywood-esque? I've never seen a SAM in this series (stock or even 3rd party), miss and then reaquire. Here's what is essentially a 40 year old SAM. Notice how it maneuvers while acquiring and chasing down a target. Do you find that too "Hollywood-esque", as well? : Edited August 23, 2011 by Fubar512 Quote
colmack Posted August 23, 2011 Author Posted August 23, 2011 It's the SA-N-11 used on the UDALOY II Class ship. witch is in essence a SA-19 used on the 2S6 Tunguska platform I don't mind so much that it chases me down but that hard 180 just sticks in my craw, I'm pretty sure that it is really IR guided but sense its tied to the UDALOY II's main SA-N-9 missile system I think it's using Radar tracking also.. I would just like to tone it down a bit. [WeaponData001] TypeName=SA-N-11 FullName=SA-N-11 ModelName=SA-N-11 Mass=65.000000 Diameter=0.180000 Length=2.830000 SubsonicDragCoeff=0.120000 SupersonicDragCoeff=0.222000 AttachmentType=SOVIET SpecificStationCode= NationName=Sovite StartYear=1988 EndYear=2020 Availability=2 BaseQuantity=100 Exported=FALSE ExportStartYear=0 ExportEndYear=0 ExportAvailability=0 WeaponDataType=1 RailLaunched=FALSE RocketPod=FALSE Retarded=FALSE FinStabilized=TRUE SpinStabilized=FALSE HasGrowl=FALSE EffectClassName=smallMissileEffects ReleaseDelay=0.000000 WarheadType=0 Explosives=16.000000 FusingDistance=17.000000 ClusterBomblets=0 ClusterDispersion=0.000000 GuidanceType=3 Accuracy=85 MaxTurnRate=55.000000 MaxLaunchG=4.000000 LockonChance=100 LaunchReliability=100 ArmingTime=0.100000 SeekerFOV=360.000000 SeekerGimbleLimit=0.000000 SeekerTrackRate=30.000000 SeekerRange=20000.000000 MinLaunchRange=1500.000000 MaxLaunchRange=20000.000000 Duration=60.000000 CounterCountermeasure=95.000000 NoiseRejection=100.000000 CapabilityFlags=0x00000000 LoftAngle=0.000000 DescentAngle=0.000000 MaxLoftAltitude=0.000000 CLmax=120.000000 MinFreq=0.000000 MaxFreq=0.000000 BoosterStart=0.000000 BoosterDuration=2.800000 BoosterAccel=29.000000 BoosterEffectName=SmallMissileEffects BoosterSoundName=Missile BoosterNodeName= BoosterPosition=0.000000,-1.600000,0.000000 SustainerDuration=0.000000 SustainerAccel=0.000000 SustainerEffectName= SustainerSoundName= SustainerPosition=0.000000,-1.600000,0.000000 InFlightEffectName=RocketInFlightEffect InFlightSoundName= ReleaseAnimationID=1 ReleaseAnimationTime=0.300000 ReleaseAnimationDelay=0.000000 EODisplayFlags=0 CEP=0.000000 Quote
colmack Posted August 23, 2011 Author Posted August 23, 2011 Boy... Fubar maybe i should adjust the numbers on the Kyndra's SA-N-1 Quote
+Fubar512 Posted August 23, 2011 Posted August 23, 2011 SA-19 is essentially a SAHM with an optical backup, and is not IR-guided. Each Kashtan mounts 8 of them (plus reloads): http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/sa-19.htm The data you've posted is suspect, and not even close to reality. This is what I use: [WeaponData001] TypeName=SA-19 FullName=SA-19 Grisom ModelName=SA-19 Mass=65.000000 Diameter=0.180000 Length=2.830000 SubsonicDragCoeff=0.120000 SupersonicDragCoeff=0.222000 AttachmentType= SpecificStationCode= NationName=SOVIET StartYear=1986 EndYear=2020 Availability=3 BaseQuantity=16 Exported=TRUE ExportStartYear=1988 ExportEndYear=2020 ExportAvailability=3 WeaponDataType=1 RailLaunched=TRUE RocketPod=FALSE Retarded=FALSE FinStabilized=TRUE SpinStabilized=TRUE HasGrowl=FALSE EffectClassName=MediumMissileEffects ReleaseDelay=0.000000 WarheadType=0 Explosives=16.000000 FusingDistance=7.500000 ClusterBomblets=0 ClusterDispersion=0.000000 GuidanceType=12 Accuracy=68 MaxTurnRate=24.000000 MaxLaunchG=1.000000 LockonChance=90 LaunchReliability=95 ArmingTime=0.300000 SeekerFOV=5.000000 SeekerGimbleLimit=120.000000 SeekerTrackRate=120.000000 SeekerRange=10000.000000 MinLaunchRange=2400.000000 MaxLaunchRange=8500.000000 Duration=14.000000 CounterCountermeasure=45.000000 NoiseRejection=22.000000 CapabilityFlags=0x10000090 LoftAngle=0.000000 DescentAngle=0.000000 MaxLoftAltitude=0.000000 CLmax=14.000000 MinFreq=0.000000 MaxFreq=0.000000 BoosterStart=0.000000 BoosterDuration=4.600000 BoosterAccel=23.124 BoosterEffectName=MissileInFlightEffect BoosterSoundName=Missile BoosterNodeName= BoosterPosition=0.000000,-1.600000,0.000000 SustainerDuration=2.300000 SustainerAccel=1.000000 SustainerEffectName=MissileFireEffect SustainerSoundName= SustainerPosition=0.000000,-1.000000,0.000000 InFlightEffectName=MissileInFlightEffect InFlightSoundName= ReleaseAnimationID=-1 EODisplayFlags=0 CEP=0.000000 Quote
colmack Posted August 23, 2011 Author Posted August 23, 2011 AAAAhhhhaaaa that scratches me right were it itches, still deadly, but but not smoke ur tailend everytime deadly. Quote
+Dels Posted August 23, 2011 Posted August 23, 2011 Yeah, that 360 degree seeker FOV will get you every time. Quote
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