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Today I clicked on 'Gallery', absentmindedly thinking it was for OFF. Of course it was all of Combatace. But I checked out a few frames before I bailed, one of which I attach here. I was darkly amused at the terrain. It underscored how good we have with OFF. But can any of you tell what Flight Sim it's from?

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It's First Eagles, the Vosgen terrain add-on, with I think stock FE landscape tiles. For comparison, the shot below is using Jan Tuma's excellent tiles (possibly on the Flanders add-on terrain which covers the northern front from the coast down to about St Quentin) which tiles I think can also be applied to the above Vosgen terrain:

 

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Salute

 

 

they have a great many planes but crap FM's and the campaign system wasn't that great either. They had some lovely models and cockpits. Shame this one didn't finish properly.

I have always wondered why these aircraft cant be used by other sims, I mean it would cut down on a lot of work for others.

 

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Don't show it to ITV. They might think it's real and it'll be on the 10 O'clock News. The Red Baron Lives!

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...reland-15082177 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

 

When P4 comes out, perhaps we'd better inform ITV, ..... just in case.

 

 

I can't believe this was an error. It smells more like a "I bet nobody notices" prank which somebody noticed. No wonder reporters don't reveal their sources.

 

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Yes, I posted about this in the pub....absolutely stupid...and then to claim that both of the crew survived!...totally crap documentary, that I shall no longer be watching

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I missed that UKW. It is pretty shocking. I'm trying to see the funny side, but it is a shocking disgrace when you think about it. What's really amazing is the quality. It's not even convincing CGI. I've seen games look much more realistic than that.

 

Gotta love YouTube. They're taking the *!"* already. It'll take years for the ITV to live it down.

 

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It's First Eagles, the Vosgen terrain add-on, with I think stock FE landscape tiles. For comparison, the shot below is using Jan Tuma's excellent tiles (possibly on the Flanders add-on terrain which covers the northern front from the coast down to about St Quentin) which tiles I think can also be applied to the above Vosgen terrain:

 

As a fan of all things WW1 aviation I do have both FE 1 and FE 2 on my hard drive though I never play them.

 

I am hardly a FM expert but the campaign is very sterile when compared to OFF's and I keep thinking SF2: Vietnam which I use to fly quite a bit. Perhaps if I flew FE first it would not appear as bad.

 

Still, very nice screen shot!

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On 'Hard' setting, IMHO there is little to be complained of re the First Eagles flight models in the sim's recent iterations, regardless of whatever state they may have been in when FE was first released. I certainly don't find the First Eagles 'Hard' FMs any less realistic than OFF's, altho my only real stick time is a few hours in Cessnas so like most here I'm not really in a position to offer anything other than my own opinion. One of FE's many neat touches is a visual and audible buffet as you approach the stall (and you get both stalls and spins, on Hard setting).

 

I find the FE campaign is actually quite good if you take the time to get into it; ok it doesn't have EAW-style audio briefings and a between-missions pilot hut with creaking bed springs and coughing fellow aviators etc but it does have a realistic mix of missions, fairly respectable inflight and planning maps, realistic squadron colours and individual plane markings which are better done than IL2. Plus there are other friendly and enemy flights going about their business which you can bump into or be caught out by (and the ability to jump to the action, if you don't have time or the inclination to fly in real time). The AI is quite good, and the view system options are also quite good, as is the distant aircraft visibility; you can turn off all the visual and targeting aids and leave them off, just relying on what you can see.

 

Tho you are cast as a flight leader in FE you have the ability to select any squadron pilots for your missions and except in escort flights, can change most of the mission waypoints. It's enough that you begin to know and care about your squadron mates and it means you exercise what can be quite agonising Dawn Patrol-style decisions about who gets to live and who's likely to die, as the casualties mount up, the replacements are slow to arrive, and HQ keeps the missions coming relentlessly. In my experience, FEG/FE2 is up there with the best of them, including both OFF and RoF, both of which I also fly regularly. In particular, FE excells at the experience of patrol-leading and dogfighting, probably two of the most important things a WW1 sim needs to be good at.

 

As for the video clip mistake, it's ironic and possibly no co-incidence that the sim footage was from Arma2, as the real footage they were probably looking for was taken in south Armagh (pronounced 'arma') - haven't seen it in a long while but as a matter of interest, it was real PIRA footage showing pine branches being pulled of a DSHK (12.7mm MG) on a tripod out in a clearing which then opens up (along with a guy with an RPG and another with a rifle) on a Lynx and a Wessex which could be seen flying nap of the earth some way off, IIRC hitting the Lynx which from what I recall at the time, had to make a heavy forced landing. Anyway, I'm still keeping my fingers crossed that the Lybian revolution will end up with something fairly and appropriately unpleasant happening to the self-appointed Col G :)

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Hi Lima,

 

I'd agree that the management in FE is actually quite good - you can play with rosters, etc - but the only campaign I tried was the 1917 Cambrai one (I think it was?) which was OKish, but of course you had to remember to activate a British or French pilot, because FE wouldn't warn you that you were just about to fly a mission in an SE5a with a German pilot!

 

I think it's fair to say that the campaign system could, and should, have been much better, but that's not to say it was utterly crap. Certainly it doesn't match OFF, but it does appear to have been a brave and honourable effort in the right direction.

 

Oh, and that Martynside Scout. What a beauty!

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