RAF_Louvert 101 Posted May 7, 2012 . Here's a fine HQ photo of an unusual Great War German single-seater. I've run across smaller examples of this particular photo, however never one this large. So who here can ID this particular craft? Enjoy! . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted May 7, 2012 At first look it had something of a Pfalz Doppeldecker, but then it isn't. The nose and fuselage back remind me of Sablatnig's sea-triplane. Is it a Sablatnig design? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAF_Louvert 101 Posted May 7, 2012 . No Olham, not a Sablatnig model. However, Luft-Fahrzeug-Gesellschaft, (better known as LFG and/or Roland), was under contract to build aeroplanes for both Sablatnig and the company responsible for the above design. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted May 7, 2012 (edited) Could it be a Roland C.V or C.VIII ? Edited May 7, 2012 by Olham Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAF_Louvert 101 Posted May 7, 2012 . No no, not a Roland of any kind Olham, I only meant that LFG was licensed to build planes for the company that actually designed the one in the photo. Also, to the best of my recollection, the kite shown never went into production as it was not seen as an improvement over the Albatros of the day. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von Paulus 8 Posted May 7, 2012 Perhaps a Halberstadt D.II... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAF_Louvert 101 Posted May 7, 2012 . VP, the Halb D.II was a workhorse of the WWI German Air Service. Remember, I mentioned this was an unusual single-seater, and IIRC not one that ever ended up going into production. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von Paulus 8 Posted May 7, 2012 I need to see the fin, Lou. It could be an Albatros or a Halberstadt, just looking for it. But I leave it to the experts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted May 7, 2012 As it's a prototype, I have no idea. It looks like a Halberstadt/Pfalz/Roland chimera. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAF_Louvert 101 Posted May 7, 2012 . VP and Olham, it is not an Albatros, Halberstadt, Pfalz, or Roland of any kind. Nor is it a Fokker. Think about companies far more noted for producing bombers ... heavy bombers. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rugbyfan1972 1 Posted May 7, 2012 . VP and Olham, it is not an Albatros, Halberstadt, Pfalz, or Roland of any kind. Nor is it a Fokker. Think about companies far more noted for producing bombers ... heavy bombers. . RAFL, You have got me stumped, I originally thought it was an AEG D1 or D6/7, but I am not sure if they made bombers. On a side note I had not realised how many different 2 seaters albatross made, nor how many AEG made. I would love to see a couple of those in a future phase of OFF if they are not already included in P4. I look forward to someone putting us out of our misery and letting us know what the plane is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cody Coyote 1 Posted May 7, 2012 (edited) Looks like a Friedrichshafen D-1. Edited May 7, 2012 by Cody Coyote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
33LIMA 972 Posted May 7, 2012 (edited) Friedrichshafen DI, 1916, serial # D2405, 160hp Merc DIII, 2x'Spandaus'. Edited May 7, 2012 by 33LIMA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cody Coyote 1 Posted May 7, 2012 You got me Lima. I misread my source document and typed in the wrong name. When I went back to edit, you were already there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maeran 20 Posted May 7, 2012 You two posted just as I was scanning. I was going to say that it looks very like the Friedrichshafen scout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAF_Louvert 101 Posted May 7, 2012 . And there you have it: A Friedrichshafen FF 46 (D.I) fighter/scout. Well done Cody, LIMA, and Maeran. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hasse Wind 46 Posted May 7, 2012 Well that's an obscure fighter. Never heard of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maeran 20 Posted May 7, 2012 I wouldn't have got it if it wasn't for the bomber clue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAF_Louvert 101 Posted May 7, 2012 . Hasse Wind, I said it was obscure. Maeran, did that photo you posted come from W.M. Lamberton's, "Fighter Aircraft of the 1914-1918 War" ? RugbyFan, meant to say earlier, I'd love to see a few of those same two-seaters as well in OFF2. We live in hope. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted May 7, 2012 Damn, I had been searching through "Rosebud's", but never thought of clicking on any "Friedrichshafen". But when you look close enough, it is there. Never heard of this plane. It looks sharkish sharp - as if it could be better than Albatros. But you said it was rather similar? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAF_Louvert 101 Posted May 7, 2012 . Yes Olham, in the scant information that still exists concerning this plane, there is noted that it did not perform notably better than the Albatros Scout and so it was passed on for production. Also, if you had clicked through the Friedrichshafen pics listed on Rosebud's you would have found the very photo, albeit a much smaller and lower quality version. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maeran 20 Posted May 7, 2012 The photo I scanned was from Jane's Fighting Aircraft of World War I, which is a sort of anthology version of the Jane's publications from around the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAF_Louvert 101 Posted May 7, 2012 . Ah yes, I am familiar with that particular Jane's publication, though I do not have a copy of it on my own shelves ... yet. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted May 7, 2012 Just found one more photo of the Friedrichshafen D.I on a Russian website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAF_Louvert 101 Posted May 7, 2012 . Wouldn't that make it a д.1 then, Olham? . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites