Wrench 9,852 Posted December 21, 2012 anybody know, in particular, for the A-1 the wing and nose MG round counts? 1000 seems WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY to many!!! Even for 7.9!! TIA!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench 9,852 Posted December 21, 2012 i feel thats waaay too many! TKs Spit 9 has 250 rounds for the 50 cal MGs,, the stock 3W Mustang 270 per gun, the TMF Spit 1 has ~350 per gun ..303 and 7.92 are pretty much the same size bullet. 300 per gun sounds more like it. Gone through all my books, and can't fnd a damn thing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+KnightWolf45 1,147 Posted December 21, 2012 same has sptifire same almost same calibre rounds 303= 7.8mm more or less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast 153 Posted December 21, 2012 From my understanding if we are talking about the nose guns on the FW my data suggest its more in the 475 rounds area per gun and this was pretty much across the board on all FW-190's from the A series to the Dora's as to the wing guns not so sure sorry. As to the wings the FW had the ability to pack more into the wing crazy thing has more cannons in it than a pirate ship... and Herr Tank had a good habit of loading lots into his airplanes that didn't seem possible but the 1000 rounds in the wing guns does seem rather a lot... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BardBitch 7,358 Posted December 21, 2012 860 cowling, 1000 wing roots. Similar to the Bf-110's MG-17s. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Crusader 2,101 Posted December 21, 2012 (edited) i feel thats waaay too many! TKs Spit 9 has 250 rounds for the 50 cal MGs,, the stock 3W Mustang 270 per gun, the TMF Spit 1 has ~350 per gun ..303 and 7.92 are pretty much the same size bullet. 300 per gun sounds more like it. Gone through all my books, and can't fnd a damn thing! TKs ammo loads for the Spit 9 and the Stang are accurate. TMF Spitfire, the Ia should have 300 rounds each for all 8 guns... it was changed on the late series Ib to 350 rounds each for the 4 outboard MGs, the inboard Hispano's had 60 rounds drum magazines. The Fw 190 A-1 armament : 4x MG 17 , ( 2x engine cowling, 2x wing roots, all syncronized, all weapons eject links and cases overboard from openings in the fuselage/wing bottom) 2x MG-FF/M ( outer wings, cases are not ejected, they are collected inside the wings) Ammo loads: MG 17 cowling : 900 rounds each MG 17 wing roots: 1000 rounds each MG-FF/M: 60 rounds each The weapons were wired into two groups for firing : Group 1: all four MG 17 Group 2: both MG-FF/M Thus the firing possibilities were either each group separately or both groups together Edited December 21, 2012 by Crusader Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Crusader 2,101 Posted December 21, 2012 (edited) Fw 190A-2, A-3, A-4, A-5 armament : 2x MG 17 , ( 2x engine cowling,synchronized, all weapons eject links and casings overboard from openings in the fuselage bottom) 900 rounds each 2x MG 151/20 ( wing roots, synchronized, casings are ejected through wing bottom ) 250 rounds each 2x MG-FF/M ( outer wings, casings are not ejected, they are collected inside the wings) 60 rounds each Fw 190A-6 Armament: cowling and wing roots same as A-2 to A-5 Outer wings 2x MG 151/20 ( outer wings, casings are not ejected, they are collected inside the wings), 125 rounds each Weapon wiring for A-2 to A-6 Group 1: cowling and wing root weapons Group 2: outboard wing weapons Edited December 21, 2012 by Crusader Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench 9,852 Posted December 21, 2012 that's EXACTLY what I needed!! thanks Otto!! You Da Man!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench 9,852 Posted December 22, 2012 another question ... I assume (oh! that word!!) the A8 would be similiar round counts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Crusader 2,101 Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) Fw 190 A-7, A-8, A-9 armament : 2x MG 131 , ( 2x cowling, synchronized, all weapons eject links and casings overboard from openings in the fuselage bottom) 400 rounds each 2x MG 151/20 ( wing roots, synchronized, casings are ejected through wing bottom ) 250 rounds each 2x MG 151/20 ( outer wings, casings are not ejected, they are collected inside the wings) 125 rounds each * * can be replaced by R2 mod kit, consisting of 2x MK 108 (outer wings, casings ejected through wing bottom) 50 rounds each Wiring was in 2 groups, cowling+wing roots outer wings Fw 190 A-8/R8 heavily armored assault aircraft, cowling guns removed to save weight 2x MG 151/20 ( wing roots, synchronized, casings are ejected through wing bottom ) 250 rounds each 2x MK 108 (outer wings, casings ejected through wing bottom) 50 rounds each Wiring was in 2 groups, wing roots outer wings Fw 190 D-9 armament : 2x MG 131 , ( 2x engine cowling,synchronized, all weapons eject links and casings overboard from openings in the fuselage bottom) 400 rounds each 2x MG 151/20 ( wing roots, synchronized, casings are ejected through wing bottom ) 250 rounds each Wiring was in 2 groups, cowling wing roots Edited December 23, 2012 by Crusader Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Crusader 2,101 Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) F-Series Fighter Bombers (ALL Fw 190 variants were capable of using a centerline bombrack for the Fighter Bomber role from the A-1 onwards) Fw 190 F-1 based on A-4 Fw 190 F-2 based on A-5 Fw 190 F-3 based on A-6 Fw 190 F-8 based on A-8 Armament Same as respective 190 A variant but outboard wing guns always removed Wiring was changed to have cowling and wing root guns in 2 groups Added were wing bomb racks, 2x 50-70 kg capacity each wing Additional armor kits for engine and cockpit were fitted G-Series Long Range Fighter Bombers Fw 190 G-1 based on A-4 Fw 190 G-2 based on A-5 Fw 190 G-3 based on A-6 Fw 190 G-8 based on A-8 Armament Same as respective 190 A variant but outboard wing guns and cowling guns (replaced by extra engine oil tank) always removed Added were wing bomb racks, 1x 250 kg capacity each wing or 300 liter drop tank Edited December 23, 2012 by Crusader Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench 9,852 Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) that's just EXCELLENT!! Thanks Otto!! So the A-1 has no Jabo role? have to reedit the data ini!! and what's better is, I 're discovered" the ETC-50 rack from Monty's 109G/S-199. Dosen't fit perfectly flugh with the belly, but it carriers the 4 50kg bombs! (shot in the SF2 screenies thread) it's just a pity I have to use the old Wolf FWs. Has some bad points, but no decal bleeds or shadow artifacts! Edited December 23, 2012 by Wrench Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Crusader 2,101 Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) Yea.... a new 190 would be cool ... Hmm.. all early 190s had a centerline rack for the droptank or a single 250 kg bomb / 4x 50 kg bombs only from A-4 onwards were kits available for further modifications Not always clear, even in the official Luftwaffe docs I use for all the data in this thread Edited December 23, 2012 by Crusader Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
