Strike Fighters Israel released for Android

[arthur666 65]

i think TW is simply developing at their own pace. Will i Buy Exp3, Prolly, will I play it, Yup,, Will I B,W, and Moan over the bugs, definately. it's a tradition.

...and as a consumer, it's your right!

[FastCargo 412]

And really folks, this isn't a zero sum game. One can have both on their hard drive. Along with the SF2 series, I have DCS World, BS2, and A-10C. Far as I can tell, my hard drive hasn't self destructed yet...

 

FC

[+76.IAP-Blackbird 3,542]

FC you are right, but most of us just need a mix of both games in one,

 

better grafics = yes only minor upgrade and a terrain overhaul

avionics?! = yes but not as simple as SF series and not so hardcore as DCS (cause no "time" to learn, damn I would like but dont have it sadly)

 

Thats all .... with what I would be happy ;)

Edited January 9, 2013 by 76.IAP-Blackbird

[macelena 1,070]

I have both, i´ll stay with SF2

[arthur666 65]

And really folks, this isn't a zero sum game. One can have both on their hard drive. Along with the SF2 series, I have DCS World, BS2, and A-10C. Far as I can tell, my hard drive hasn't self destructed yet...

 

FC

A heretic! BURN HIM!!! BUUUURRRRNNNN!!!!!!! Oh, sorry. There I go again.

 

For me it's all about the time I've already invested in tweaking my Thirdwire stuff + the time I don't have to do much else.. DCS looks amazing, but I chose my path a long time ago.

 

I might have chosen differently had I seen

first. (Glowing AMRAAM video, DCS A-10C)

[+daddyairplanes 8,609]

i have DCS world and picked up the A-10 from the Steam sale. also looking to get into OFF just to have something different. but i'll stick with TW for one primary reason.......................

 

Phantoms. lots and lots of Phantoms.

[+SkateZilla 49]

And really folks, this isn't a zero sum game. One can have both on their hard drive. Along with the SF2 series, I have DCS World, BS2, and A-10C. Far as I can tell, my hard drive hasn't self destructed yet...

 

FC

 

SF2 (All of them)

DCSW (Every Module + About 5-8 Betas)

Falcon4/BMS

And 3 or 4 other sims, I think Prepar3d is one of them, FSX Will not waste space on my HDD, it's on my old system, but i refuse to install it, then all the addons.

[FastCargo 412]

How do you like Prepar3d?

 

FC

[+ST0RM 145]

How do you like Prepar3d?

 

FC

 

If Prepar3d would support Track IR, I'd have dumped FSX already. Just cant "fly" without my TIR anymore. But Lock-Mart really did a number on the engine and it's very popular with many die hards.

 

-S

[FastCargo 412]

You know, something that I think would be a hoot and a half would be the old '2 people in the same aircraft' multiplayer. As far as I can tell, I don't think that's been done since F-15 Strike Eagle III. I'd imagine there would be a whole host of issues attempting to program it.

 

But damn, it was fun!

 

Nobody has seen something like that on the horizon for anything?

 

FC

[+Zurawski 33]

The idea to position tk on the mobile market is hopefully a businnes plan to provide income for the pc market games.

 

I hate to say it especially being such a fan of the game and all it's given me... But I suspect TK's mobile market strategy is ultimately and "exit strategy:...

 

Michael Harrison did the same thing when he abandoned SDOE for the console market.

Edited January 10, 2013 by Zurawski

[FastCargo 412]

Zur,

 

It certainly is possible.

 

But, I think everyone is rocket-jumping to conclusions waaaay early. Just like everyone is creaming their shorts about DCS.

 

In both, the situation is the same...potential. TW could potentially leave the PC market. DCS could potentially be the combat flight sim platform diehards have been looking for (FSX moddability and realism applied to a modern air combat flight sim).

 

A lot of us have been around the block enough to have seen the wreckage of past efforts to know better. No matter if it's established developers (Janes, Spectrum Holobyte, Microsoft) or new developers that never got to market (Fighter Ops, Jet Thunder), no developer is immune to closing up due to all sorts of factors.

 

We have a saying at my company: "Until it has a purple tail and is sitting on our ramp, don't assume we'll get that aircraft."

 

When TW makes an announcement that they are ceasing PC development, then I'll believe it.

 

When I start seeing a sizable amount of releases (not renders, videos, or screenshots) of products for DCS that are significantly different than what is already for sale, then I'll get excited.

 

FC

[+Zurawski 33]

 

Understood and agreed.

 

I've not bought into the DCS Kool-Aid just yet and still want to get the Hawg off my project list, so I'm not going anywhere soon...

 

That said, the recent FS community discourse and subsequent fall-out... TK's waning involvement / communication and the at present time cessation of PC related DLC, one can't help but feel the icy grip of the Ferryman pulling SF into his boat for one last cruise before being decommissioned.

 

Admittedly... I've been side-tracked by Mechwarrior: Online for months now, so I'm not feeling it as intimately as some members I've been PM'ing with.

[JediMaster 451]

You know, something that I think would be a hoot and a half would be the old '2 people in the same aircraft' multiplayer. As far as I can tell, I don't think that's been done since F-15 Strike Eagle III. I'd imagine there would be a whole host of issues attempting to program it.

 

But damn, it was fun!

 

Nobody has seen something like that on the horizon for anything?

 

FC

 

Sure, for WWI (ROF) and WWII (Il-2 through CloD)! Oh, and EECH and Arma 2 for modern helos. I think there are 2 seat fast jet mods for Arma 2 but I don't know which offhand.

 

While it's true the last fast jet sim that had it was F15SE3, and honestly I'm hard pressed to remember one BEFORE that, think how many fast jet sims came out in this century? LOMAC, which had the same MP options as DCS World today, so that's not different, but had only single seaters.

Jane's F/A-18E...modeled a single seater.

Falcon 4 and Flanker 2 came out in late 90s, but it was still all single seaters. F4 was supposed to get an F-15E expansion, but no idea if they were planning on FS/BS coop over F4's.

TK's SF1 series, which had 2 seaters but only allowed 1 per plane, then gone altogether in SF2.

 

Other than non-combat like X Plane and MSFS, what other fast jet sims have come out in the last dozen years? I'm drawing a blank...

[FastCargo 412]

Okay, that would explain why I hadn't heard of any multiplayer/single aircraft sims...most of those genres I'm not interested in (except for EECH...I think I remember that option now).

 

FC

[+ST0RM 145]

You know, something that I think would be a hoot and a half would be the old '2 people in the same aircraft' multiplayer. As far as I can tell, I don't think that's been done since F-15 Strike Eagle III. I'd imagine there would be a whole host of issues attempting to program it.

 

FSX Multiplayer allows it. I've been two-player in an EA-6B over the NTR and nearly got my co-pilot airsick with all the low-level yanking and banking.

 

The one good thing to come from FSX was aircraft sharing. Awesome for those complex start-ups.

 

-S

[Snailman 517]

You know, something that I think would be a hoot and a half would be the old '2 people in the same aircraft' multiplayer. As far as I can tell, I don't think that's been done since F-15 Strike Eagle III. I'd imagine there would be a whole host of issues attempting to program it.

 

But damn, it was fun!

 

Nobody has seen something like that on the horizon for anything?

 

FC

 

 

That was Mi-24 Hind for Win 95 that time. LAN coop pilot+gunner. AND best heli simulator ever since.

[FastCargo 412]

...AND best heli simulator ever since...

 

In your opinion.

 

 

FC

[Snailman 517]

I never heard about this one... never seen(( My guess... a modded one?

 

For me old Hind was best because of overall play experience not just realism (DCS KA50) or graphics. I grew up on C64 Apache, Elite and Pirates, I don't give a damn about graphics ))))))

[SFP1Ace 33]

I never heard about this one... never seen(( My guess... a modded one?

 

For me old Hind was best because of overall play experience not just realism (DCS KA50) or graphics. I grew up on C64 Apache, Elite and Pirates, I don't give a damn about graphics ))))))

 

It's Enemy Engaged: Comanche Hokum with community patch, I belive. Sweet.

[arthur666 65]

... I grew up on C64 Apache, Elite and Pirates, I don't give a damn about graphics ))))))

Pirates! Now that was a proper computer game. I new my Caribbean geography better than any other 8 yr old on the block. Have you checked out Mount and Blade? Reminds me of Pirates! because it's open and roaming, do what you want...

 

Sorry for dragging us off topic.

[Snailman 517]

Pirates! Now that was a proper computer game. I new my Caribbean geography better than any other 8 yr old on the block. Have you checked out Mount and Blade? Reminds me of Pirates! because it's open and roaming, do what you want...

 

Sorry for dragging us off topic.

 

Sure, Mount & Blade is the best of such games. Especially beause of high level modding. I was playing it with 1866 wildwest mod and Rus 13 Vek (13th century) with polish and rus. Damn I hated crusaders LOL )))))