Svetlin Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 Dear modders, I know you are all busy with various projects and placing requests is not a usual procedure here, but still I would greatly appreciate it if anyone would be willing to assist. I am trying to re-create a Bulgarian MiG-21MFR (12 standard MFs were modified to use a simple pod for aerial photography, named RFK). For that matter I need the RFK pod. The RFK pod itself was basically a UB-16-57UM pod with launcher tubes removed, a simple cone placed in the front instead of the launcher tubes, the back side closed as well and 2 AFA cameras fitted inside. Could anyone with some free time build the subject pod? Here is a drawing of the UB-16-57UM pod with dimensions listed. The pod does not have to be anything fancy with all the locks and mounting elements as in the drawing, just a simple tube shape with cone in front and closed back side, the size of a UB-16-57UM pod. Thank you in advance! Quote
+Stratos Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 I'm not a modder, but I think those guys will require some pics of the Bulgarian pod. Quote
Svetlin Posted February 5, 2016 Author Posted February 5, 2016 The picture shows the UB-16-57UM pod, not the RFK pod. I gave it only for general reference about the shape and size. The RFK pod is basically just the outer shell of a UB-16-57UM pod without launch tubes, or anything which is related to launching unguided rockets. My bad I did not provide a clearer drawing and I aplologize for that. I will edit the picture and remove the unnecessary details to avoid confusion. And, yes, considering what I have seen uploaded here at CA in terms of level of detail and complexity of the model, I believe the object I am talking about is simple. Of course I know nothing about 3d work, but the object is a tube, closed with a cone at the front end and a plate at the back end. Quote
Svetlin Posted February 5, 2016 Author Posted February 5, 2016 Yes, that's great! Thank you, cocas. Pictures are not available, but for 1, black and white and with very poor resolution. So, with respect to the skin it will be mostly guesswork on my side. Quote
+acesfakia Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) ..i think the 1st think for a moder is the blueprint....of a model...AND THE INFOS AND PICS......!!!! http://www.flickriver.com/photos/tags/mig21r/interesting/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/theadventurouseye/5455138852/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/theadventurouseye/5454519597/in/photostream/ Edited February 5, 2016 by acesfakia Quote
+KnightWolf45 Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 the above blueprints are for the RFK pod? kind got lost over here if i need the weekend to finish it up! Quote
+acesfakia Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) recce pod MIG-21R........just to tell to my friend.....how looks like the infos to have for making a model....! Maybe is the same... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In 1995-6, Bulgaria locally converted seven MiG-21MF's into a recce version, and locally designated them as MiG-21MFR; the bort numbers on these aircraft are: 047; 55; 57; 58; 64; 177; and, 403. I think all of the bort numbers are white with red outline, but not certain. These aircraft were withdrawn from service in 2000, and are stored at Dobrich. Source:Famous Russian Aircraft Mikoyan MiG-21, Gordon, Dexter, and Komissarov. ============================================================================== http://pan.bg/gallery/albums/userpics/10010/74419_104478016288348_100001784506125_35670_7565432_n.jpg http://airgroup2000.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12122/DSCF0246.jpg http://airgroup2000.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12122/DSCF0245.jpg Edited February 5, 2016 by acesfakia Quote
Svetlin Posted February 5, 2016 Author Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) Guys, please hold it. Cocas got my request very well. Cocas you have built exactly the shape I need. MiG-21MFR is not MiG-21R. It could well be that MiG-21MFR is only a Bulgarian designation for 12 MiG-21MFs that were modified for simple photo-recce missions. The RFK pod was a custom pod, built by Bulgarian technicians to give the MiG-21MF some simple recce capabilities. That was necessary because the MiG-21Rs we had, that used the "R" and "D" pods, shown by acesfakia in his post, had reached the end of their operational life and were grounded. At the same time the "R" and "D" pods were not fitted to other MiG-21 variants (MF or Bis), because of operational issues - the pods would change the balance of the MiG-21MF and bis to an unacceptable level and further more with a pod fitted, the MiG-21MF or bis woudl have to land with fuel level below the safety minimum. These are actual comments from Bulgarian pilots and technicians, who flew/operated the MiG-21R and MiG-21MFR at the time, shared in one of the Bulgarian aviation forums. Pictures of the pod are rare, I have seen just 1 (one) and it was with a poor quality, not much of a help for a modder. That is why I did not post a picture, nor a better blueprint. Edit: Here is the single picture available: Edited February 5, 2016 by Svetlin Quote
+KnightWolf45 Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 ok then i will map it tomorrow and send it yo to you Svetlin Quote
Svetlin Posted February 5, 2016 Author Posted February 5, 2016 recce pod MIG-21R........just to tell to my friend.....how looks like the infos to have for making a model....! Maybe is the same... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In 1995-6, Bulgaria locally converted seven MiG-21MF's into a recce version, and locally designated them as MiG-21MFR; the bort numbers on these aircraft are: 047; 55; 57; 58; 64; 177; and, 403. I think all of the bort numbers are white with red outline, but not certain. These aircraft were withdrawn from service in 2000, and are stored at Dobrich. Source:Famous Russian Aircraft Mikoyan MiG-21, Gordon, Dexter, and Komissarov. ============================================================================== http://pan.bg/gallery/albums/userpics/10010/74419_104478016288348_100001784506125_35670_7565432_n.jpg http://airgroup2000.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12122/DSCF0246.jpg http://airgroup2000.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12122/DSCF0245.jpg Acesfakia, thank you, but that is not what I have requested. We have had the R and D pods for MiG-21R for ages (ever since SF1 series) and I can add these without any problem to any MiG-21 variant I like for the fun of it. However I prefer to stick to the actual situation and it was that the R and D pods were not fitted to the MiG-21MF. Instead a custom built RFK pod out of a UB-16-57UM rocket pod was used. The drawing by Linden Hill decals is not accurate according to Bulgarian MiG-21 pilots. I really do not mean to make a big discussion or argue with anyone. I placed a simple request, which cocas understood perfectly and spent his time in making the object I need. That is all. ok then i will map it tomorrow and send it yo to you Svetlin Perfect, cocas, greatly appreciate it. 1 Quote
+KnightWolf45 Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 I placed a simple request, which cocas understood perfectly and spent his time in making the object I need. That is all. i do have my moments no problem thanks glad to help Quote
+acesfakia Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) ..cocas..maybe will help..you...this Mig-21 pods tank.rar Edited February 5, 2016 by acesfakia 1 Quote
Svetlin Posted February 6, 2016 Author Posted February 6, 2016 Thank you so much, cocas, just what I needed!!! 2 Quote
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