Multiple "HideNodeName" values within the same system.

[+The Trooper 104]

Currently I have this:

[GunnerL]
SystemType=WEAPON_STATION
StationID=6
StationGroupID=3
StationType=EXTERNAL
GunGroup=7
AttachmentPosition=-0.85,0.8,0.85
AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0
DiameterLimit=0.35
LengthLimit=3.0
LoadLimit=250.0
AllowedWeaponClass=GP
AttachmentType=USAF,USN,NATO,UK,USMC
PylonMass=2
SpecificStationCode=GUNNER_L
HideNodeName=LeftDoor
ShowFromCockpit=FALSE

I want to add some more nodes to the "HideNodeName" entry. I've tried:

HideNodeName[001]=LeftDoor
HideNodeName[002]=LeftDoor_Rear
HideNodeName[003]=RightDoor
HideNodeName[004]=RightDoor_Rear

HideNodeName[000]=LeftDoor
HideNodeName[001]=LeftDoor_Rear
HideNodeName[002]=RightDoor
HideNodeName[003]=RightDoor_Rear

HideNodeName=LeftDoor, LeftDoor_Rear, RightDoor, RightDoor_Rear

...but no joy. I guess it doesn't accept arrays. Is it possible to hide more than one node, when I load something in the weapon station?

 

Currently I am using this workaround:

[GunnerL]
SystemType=WEAPON_STATION
StationID=6
StationGroupID=3
StationType=EXTERNAL
GunGroup=7
AttachmentPosition=-0.85,0.8,0.85
AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0
DiameterLimit=0.35
LengthLimit=3.0
LoadLimit=250.0
AllowedWeaponClass=GP
AttachmentType=USAF,USN,NATO,UK,USMC
PylonMass=2
SpecificStationCode=GUNNER_L
ShowFromCockpit=FALSE

[GunnerR]
SystemType=WEAPON_STATION
StationID=7
StationGroupID=3
StationType=EXTERNAL
GunGroup=7
AttachmentPosition=0.85,0.8,0.85
AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0
DiameterLimit=0.35
LengthLimit=3.0
LoadLimit=250.0
AllowedWeaponClass=GP
AttachmentType=USAF,USN,NATO,UK,USMC
PylonMass=2
SpecificStationCode=GUNNER_R
ShowFromCockpit=FALSE

[RemoveDoorL]
SystemType=WEAPON_STATION
StationID=8
StationGroupID=5
StationType=EXTERNAL
GunGroup=7
AttachmentPosition=-0.85,0.9,0.85
AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0
DiameterLimit=0.35
LengthLimit=3.0
LoadLimit=250.0
AllowedWeaponClass=EP
AttachmentType=USAF,USN,NATO,UK,USMC
PylonMass=0
SpecificStationCode=RemoveDoor
HideNodeName=LeftDoor

[RemoveDoorLR]
SystemType=WEAPON_STATION
StationID=9
StationGroupID=5
StationType=EXTERNAL
GunGroup=7
AttachmentPosition=-0.85,0.9,0.85
AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0
DiameterLimit=0.35
LengthLimit=3.0
LoadLimit=250.0
AllowedWeaponClass=EP
AttachmentType=USAF,USN,NATO,UK,USMC
PylonMass=0
SpecificStationCode=RemoveDoor
HideNodeName=LeftDoor_Rear

[RemoveDoorR]
SystemType=WEAPON_STATION
StationID=10
StationGroupID=5
StationType=EXTERNAL
GunGroup=7
AttachmentPosition=0.85,0.9,0.85
AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0
DiameterLimit=0.35
LengthLimit=3.0
LoadLimit=250.0
AllowedWeaponClass=EP
AttachmentType=USAF,USN,NATO,UK,USMC
PylonMass=0
SpecificStationCode=RemoveDoor
HideNodeName=RightDoor

[RemoveDoorRR]
SystemType=WEAPON_STATION
StationID=11
StationGroupID=5
StationType=EXTERNAL
GunGroup=7
AttachmentPosition=0.85,0.9,0.85
AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0
DiameterLimit=0.35
LengthLimit=3.0
LoadLimit=250.0
AllowedWeaponClass=EP
AttachmentType=USAF,USN,NATO,UK,USMC
PylonMass=0
SpecificStationCode=RemoveDoor
HideNodeName=RightDoor_Rear

but I am looking for a more elegant solution.

 

[Wrench 9,806]

have you tried doing it the 'regular way", as a "remove component' in the AircraftData section?

 

fer example.....

 

 

[AircraftData]

DestroyedModel=IL-28_Destroyed.LOD

DestroyedEffect=VehicleFireEffect

EmptyMass=9072.0

EmptyInertia=38556.0,43545.6,74390.4

ReferenceArea=56.67

ReferenceSpan=20.60

ReferenceChord=2.751

CGPosition=0.00,0.60,0.00

Component[001]=Fuselage

Component[002]=Nose

Component[003]=LeftWing

Component[004]=RightWing

Component[005]=LeftStab

Component[006]=RightStab

Component[007]=VertTailL

Component[008]=LeftOuterWing

Component[009]=RightOuterWing

Component[010]=EngineNacelle1

Component[011]=EngineNacelle2

Component[012]=VertTailR

 

//removes//

 

Component[013]=Hide1

Component[014]=Hide2

Component[015]=Hide3

Component[016]=Hide4

Component[017]=Hide5

Component[018]=Hide6

Component[019]=Hide7

Component[020]=Hide8

Component[021]=Hide9

Component[022]=Hide10

 

[Hide1]

ParentComponentName=Fuselage

ModelNodeName=MGPods_R

DestroyedNodeName=MGPods_R

DetachWhenDestroyed=false

HasAeroCoefficients=FALSE

 

[Hide2]

ParentComponentName=Fuselage

ModelNodeName=MGPods_L

DestroyedNodeName=MGPods_L

DetachWhenDestroyed=false

HasAeroCoefficients=FALSE

 

[Hide3]

ParentComponentName=Fuselage

ModelNodeName=TopTurret

DestroyedNodeName=TopTurret

DetachWhenDestroyed=false

HasAeroCoefficients=FALSE

 

[Hide4]

ParentComponentName=Fuselage

ModelNodeName=TGun1

DestroyedNodeName=TGun1

DetachWhenDestroyed=false

HasAeroCoefficients=FALSE

 

[Hide5]

ParentComponentName=Fuselage

ModelNodeName=TGun2

DestroyedNodeName=TGun2

DetachWhenDestroyed=false

HasAeroCoefficients=FALSE

 

[Hide6]

ParentComponentName=Fuselage

ModelNodeName=SMGun_L

DestroyedNodeName=SMGun_L

DetachWhenDestroyed=false

HasAeroCoefficients=FALSE

 

[Hide7]

ParentComponentName=Fuselage

ModelNodeName=SMGun_R

DestroyedNodeName=SMGun_R

DetachWhenDestroyed=false

HasAeroCoefficients=FALSE

 

[Hide8]

ParentComponentName=Fuselage

ModelNodeName=NoseGun1

DestroyedNodeName=NoseGun1

DetachWhenDestroyed=false

HasAeroCoefficients=FALSE

[+The Trooper 104]

Not exactly what I want. I need the doors removed only when the door gunners are loaded in the weapon station, but I want the doors installed back at their places if the gunner station is empty. HideNodeName does exactly what I need, but accepts only one node entry and I need to remove 4 doors. What I did was adding a weapon station for each door and loading a dummy "remove door" weapon each time I wanted to use a door gunner. It works, but... I kinda don't like that you have to manually remove the doors...

Edited August 21, 2016 by The Trooper

[Wrench 9,806]

then what you need is an entirely new lod, that's set up the way you require

[+yakarov79 11,003]

Only way to remove doors while gunners onboard is making doors as pylon for "No gun" weapon - then when "no gun" is loaded doors will apear.

Gunners on board - doors removed as gunners can be pylon. But tis requires messing with lod.

Same as on H-53 series helicopter.

[Wilches 1,169]

Give up, The Trooper... No way!

[+Gunrunner 314]

You had the right idea with your pylons trick, now... just put the gunner and your doors in the same weapons group... (and make sure your dummy weapons have the same SpecificStationCode as your gunner).

 

That should do the trick...

 

Alternatively you could use dummy, empty, lodless, non-jettissonable fuel tanks for the doors, it's way less messy than fake pylons and inert, invisible weapons.

Edited August 22, 2016 by Gunrunner

[+yakarov79 11,003]

Well..

if this is so important i can edit in max here and there to make other version armed with gunners..

[+The Trooper 104]

Thanks guys! I've set the the doors as pylons for a "no gun" weapon using the same StationID as the gunners. Now it takes only one slot in the loading screen and you can't forget to remove the doors, when loading a gunner. The only drawback is, that the Gazelle has no doors, when parked on the airfield.

Yakarov, it's not really that important, just trying too keep my mind busy by messing with the game engine.

Edited August 22, 2016 by The Trooper

[+yakarov79 11,003]

here is lod file with doors rearranged.

IN weapon station  entry for gunners put:

HideNodeName=HideDoors

 

and tell me if this works,

 

new82GazelleHA1_LOD.rar

 

edit:

 

And, can add this with L7

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 20, 2016 by yakarov79

[+denissoliveira 1,319]

place the gun and the door in the same WEAPON_STATION, the door should one type of weapon (example an EP) and the gun another.

Gun model-GP (Gun POD)

Door-EP (ECM POD)

This in the same StationGroupID

[GunnerR]
SystemType=WEAPON_STATION
StationID=1
StationGroupID=3
StationType=EXTERNAL
GunGroup=7
AttachmentPosition=0.85,0.8,0.85
AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0
DiameterLimit=0.35
LengthLimit=3.0
LoadLimit=250.0
AllowedWeaponClass=GP
AttachmentType=USAF,USN,NATO,UK,USMC
PylonMass=2
SpecificStationCode=GUNNER_R
ShowFromCockpit=FALSE

[RemoveDoorR]
SystemType=WEAPON_STATION
StationID=2
StationGroupID=3
StationType=EXTERNAL
GunGroup=7
AttachmentPosition=-0.85,0.9,0.85
AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0
DiameterLimit=0.35
LengthLimit=3.0
LoadLimit=250.0
AllowedWeaponClass=EP
AttachmentType=USAF,USN,NATO,UK,USMC
PylonMass=0
SpecificStationCode=RemoveDoor
HideNodeName=RightDoor

Edited September 20, 2016 by denissoliveira

[+yakarov79 11,003]

Well I think The Trooper wants it without adding fake "weapon"

Ive changed hierarchy in lod file, so HideNodeName=Hide Doors will remove ALL doors when loaded gunners. Either right or left side gunner.

If you want i can change and make it as left pair and right pair seperatly.

 

If you will place gunner like you stated:

 

 

[GunnerR]
SystemType=WEAPON_STATION
StationID=1
StationGroupID=3
StationType=EXTERNAL
GunGroup=7
AttachmentPosition=0.85,0.8,0.85
AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0
DiameterLimit=0.35
LengthLimit=3.0
LoadLimit=250.0
AllowedWeaponClass=GP
AttachmentType=USAF,USN,NATO,UK,USMC
PylonMass=2
SpecificStationCode=GUNNER_R
ShowFromCockpit=FALSE

 

add this :

 

HideNodeName=HideDoors

 

So:

As The Trooper said in RH-53D topic...

No need to add fake "no gun" weapon.

[+The Trooper 104]

Thanks mate! This is exactly what I was looking for.