hawker111 Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 Could the F-104 Starfighter, if it was flying fast enough, pull 10 + Gs? Quote
Wrench Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 probably not without folding up like a paper airplane. Wasn't stressed for that in game, maxed out a 7.3 Quote
+Gepard Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 The question is wheter hawker111 means in game or in reality. In game surely not. In reality, it could be. But i dont know. I know, that some MiG-21 during Vietnam war were pulled up to 12 g in missile avoidance flight maneuvres. After that maneuvres the plane was grounded an must unbended before new flight. Some were wrecks after to much g. I dont know, how much g a Starfigher was able to pull. In emergancy surely more than the allowed 7.33 g. Quote
+daddyairplanes Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 Agreed, that 7.33 figure sounds like a brochure, dont exceed this or else, number. Slight bit above, mechanics are bustin their humps and the pilot is at attention in front of his CO finding out what "or else" means. Signifigantly higher (and in USAF Zipper models i think that would be 10G) best case is the plane is a write off. Worst case is a funeral and round of training for the other pilots Quote
Wrench Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 as with most things, a little reasearch and brain sweat goes a long way if one has the dash 1 manual at their disposal... http://www.avialogs.com/en/aircraft/usa/lockheed/f-104starfighter/1-14404-1-f-104g-flight-manual.html#download 1 Quote
MusketMan Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 10G would be close to the ultimate G loading for that generations of fighters. The published not-to-exceed G load allows some margin & should be good for normal operations without permanently bending / breaking anything. IMHO, 10G would probably be close to tearing the wings off. On the other hand, if trying to evade death from a missile, I'd take rhe risk of bending the airplane! :-) Quote
hawker111 Posted January 19, 2018 Author Posted January 19, 2018 Did the F-104 have a "pitch-up" problem like the F-101 did? They both have the "T-tail" design. hawker111 Quote
+baffmeister Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 Yes it did but the causes may have been a bit different than the F-101. To address the issue a stick kicker system was installed that would "kick" the stick forward if the aircraft was approaching a critical alpha range. I think the critical range was around 15-16deg but could vary depending on stick input rates so was a bit more complicated than a simple alpha limiter. There is more info in the F-104 flight manual that can be found online. Wrench made a link somewhere. Quote
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