jeanba 1,920 Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) https://warisboring.com/the-royal-air-forces-flying-arsenal-was-just-a-dream/ Edited July 19, 2018 by jeanba 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
protrash16 0 Posted July 20, 2018 there would be multiple problems. but it is possible 1. needs radar editing to air to air mod 2. the model in the download section must be edited with more hardpoints (3d moddeling, data.ini etc) 3. maybe a hud 4. why are there no missiles in the bombay? only 12 phoenix missiles for a big bomber would be lame considering its only double as much as a f-14. it shoul have 24!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but all jokes aside i think it would be fun flying it and just spraying 24 phoenix missiles against a large group of fighters and after that just running away as some escort lightnings pick on the leftovers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kblomkvist 433 Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, protrash16 said: 2. the model in the download section must be edited with more hardpoints (3d moddeling, data.ini etc) There is a possible workaround. Hardpoint models can be added as pilot seats with "fakepilots" without editing the original 3D model. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+daddyairplanes 10,233 Posted July 21, 2018 my two cents.... as a Backfire or Badger blocker for the North Atlantic, this sounds like an excellent project kblomkvist is very much correct about the fake pilot pylons. this leads to the ini dance to place them..... just copy the information from the F-4M or F-14A for radar into the data.ini. But I would leave the HUD alone, as the Bomb/Nav would likely be working that anyhow and giving the pilot steering cues. keeps the same crew work dynamic, and the point is to nail the Sov's a hundred miles out, not dogfight with a Badger. and despite the Vulcans reputation, it would not handle any fighters of the late 1970s thru mid 80s save maybe the Tu-128! yes you could carry more in the bomb bay. but load out for the regular Vulcan was 21x 1000 lb Bombs internally(thats 21000 lb). 12 Phoenix would be 12000- 13000 lbs alone, not to mention pylon weight and drag. better to have fuel in the bomb bays, and maybe operational load of 8 Phoenix (this will also save your sanity when doing the ini dance to position pylons and weapons). This would likely go down as an quick response operational capability, so yes think quick and easy to slap on (like hte ARM capability in the last few Black Buck missions) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fallenphoenix1986 603 Posted July 21, 2018 Just my 0.02... I'd go with internal purely for the sake of drag. The Vulcan's long range will quickly evaporate with the set up shown above. If range is a concern then external tanks where the Skybolts were going to go? Craig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Hans Topp 115 Posted July 22, 2018 Maybe add a the Phoenix in the bombay with a rotary launcher libe B-1B??? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites