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1949 - Su-15 (first fighter with that designation, not to be confused with the serial Su-15 from 1963)

Sukhoi Su-15

2000 - X-32

Boeing X-32A/B JSF competition video compilation (part 1) - YouTube

If we ignored that fact that the Su-15 was designed and first flew in the Soviet Union in 1949, while the X-32 was designed and first flew in the USA in 2000, these look to me just like grand-grandpa and grand-grandson :haha:

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ahhh .... well, everything is clear. The Americans stole secret technologies of the 50s from Russia and were able to implement them only in 2000. :smile:

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19 hours ago, bazillius said:

ahhh .... well, everything is clear. The Americans stole secret technologies of the 50s from Russia and were able to implement them only in 2000. :smile:

You joke but it's also real:

At 44:30 he mentions a Pilot Activated Automatic Recovery System. It was implemented starting in 1994 on the Nighthawk, but the Soviets had a similar system since the 1950s.

Not to mention that the theory behind stealth aircraft was conceived by Pyotr Yakovlevich Ufimtsev, Soviet physicist and mathematician.

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Technology "transfer" was not a one way road. If you look from above to a F-111, a Mirage G-8 or a MiG-23 you find astonishing similarities. Same with MiG-25 and F-15. Or if you take the MiG Ye-8, which basic design idea was used for the F-16A.  Or the Leopard 1 tank which has a lot of features of the T-34/85 design.

The most important design "transfer" from west to east was the F-5E, which was captured in 1975 by the Nort Vietnamese. Twin engine design, strake wings, comfortable cockpit, good view, wing design etc of the F-5E you find in the MiG-29.

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Well they look, to me, as a grand-grandson and grand-grandpa but only if grandpa was a Klingon and grandma a Romulan, with a little bit a native indian blood.

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