sitting_duck

ok,,,,let me know what time,,,,,,and,,,i will be there..... Would like to know one thing,,,,,if someone patches up to 1.30c (no optional dm installed).......then what (if any) damage model do they have??? and stump,,,if you have not already done so,,,,please make a backup of at just one xdp file from any plane before you apply an optional patch, and then make a copy of the xdp file for that plane after you have applied a dm patch. really wish we had thout of maybe making everyone get the normal dm to see if the mismatch still occurred. It might have helped, it might not have done anything.

wow,,,have we uncovered R Crumb? keep on truckin.....

Everyone so far, (to my knowledge), has been getting the HDM from the over flandersfields website. And, as would make sense, whenever someone ran into a mismatch problem, first thing we did was to send them back over to the site, to get and reinstall the 1.30c hdm. Which did not help. But, seeing as you appear to be proficient in these matters, that xdp file is pretty lenthy, and im going to guess that the differences between a nomal dm file, and a hard dm file are limited to only a few lines, (hopefully all in the same area) If you could post where in the file we zero in on, to help us compare two files (one that seems to work, and one that doenst seem to work) would appreciate it. As far as the option of adding another intermediate dm model into the mix, its not my call to make, and will see what other pilots have to say. If i where to guess,,,i would guess that the level of frustration that 2 damage models has caused is going to make most pilots weary of adding another to the mix. I am assuming that the intermediat dm falls in line with the normal and hard, in that everyone has to have the same in order to avoid mismach. Which is too bad....and intermediate dm, might be a turn out to be a nice compromise between hard and normal. Also, is there any one line of data, in the xdp file, that would tell us without question, if that xdp file is from the hard dm, or the normal dm. thanks in advance duck

CHARGE!!!!!!

havnt had it happen to me, but seen it quite a few times in mp with other pilots, and its only from my perspective,,,ie i can hear the guns going non stop, and even see the tracers, but from their perspective, their guns are not firing.......quirky stuff huh....

Some pilots are not able to join mp because they are still getting mismatch on all aircraft, and the solution to thier problem is to replace all the xdp files for thier qc aircraft with ones i send them. I realise this is a problem that logically should not be happening, but the count is up to 4 pilots now, and not being pessiimistic here,,,im sure the count is higher, its just that anyone not haveing tried to join a mp game will not know. To compound a solution to the problem, its not happening to everyone. Wish i had a "bad" xdp file, and a "Good" xdp file to attache here, but in the flurry to get people on who want to play, forget to ask them so save at least one of thier old files. Will make sure i do next time around. But in the meantime, if this is not a large task, if we could get an installer that would grab all the xdp files from a folder called "XXX" and copy them over to the correct aircraft folders, that would help. (xxx being anything we can name the folder) Also, as an after thout, seeing as when this problem first showed up, i had already played mp with no problems with pilots patched to 130c and the 130c hardcore, we just assumed the pilots that got the mismatch were the ones with the problem. Seeing as we have never tried to see if 2 pilots with the mismatch problem where able to get into a mp game with themselves, I guess there is room for the reasoning that MY files are the bad ones, and the pilots getting the mismatch have the correct files. To answer the question that i am sure is going to get asked, yes,,,we are all sure that we are patched to 130c and have the 130c hardcore dm. As anothere afterthout, i wish we had thout about everyone going back to the normal dm, and seeing if that solved the problem. Next time we get anyone with the problem, I will be sure to try that too. But bottom line is, at this point in time, there does appear to be a problem. And if it helps any, it happened with the first hardcore/normal minipatch too ( i think it was 130b,,,not sure thou). I had to send stump all my xdp files from my qc aircraft so he could fly mp after the first optional dm patches came out.

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GAME IS DOWN

ok,,we had to set you to mute at our end,,,,,,,you should still be able to hear us,,,,unless you get that nasty echo too. which is going to make it hard to understand us. on your teamspeak,,go to settings,,,and sound input/output, and make sure you are not on voice activated..that might help,,,, if it doesnt...you may have to find your "stero mix" setting, and disable it. Sometimes thats in control panel under sound settings, sometimes its in the sound card/on board audio utility program. on my realtex on board its in the realtex utility.

frigging problem went away just as soon as it started........i do have another fraps,,,,from my view,,,gotta compress it,,,but it was pretty amazing how much the ai where spinnning as they flew.. hey,,stumps gotta game up at nine,,,,,,

hi,, saburo, im getting a nasty echo on teamspeak, so if you read this,,,use the teamspeak chat,,,,from the channel option...send text message to all,,,and it appears at the bottom of the teamspeak window

lol...you call that stalling??? but i will give it a shot....d1 was the last plane i tried,,,,went thru a bunch of different planes that crashed before i even got a visual on them.....

stumpjumper will have a mp game up around 9edt ip will be posted in mp forum when game is up

lol..wow...u guys are fast... help me with my spinning planes....

at the beggining of the general discussion page, in the sticky section, there are several posts on key commands, tips, and what have you. These should help answer those and alot more you may have to answer... and this post is pretty close to what you are asking,,,http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=40769

http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=38466 this should help a litlle for your mp questions. if you get teamspeak, all the settings and urls are there too. I will try to be on teamspeak around 8ish edt to help you with any problems you may have with mp, so if you can go ahead and get teamspeak, lol...and a mic, that would be great. walmart has a nice mic headphone combo for 18 bucks.... stump will post his ip when his game is up hope to see you in the air

went in to do some quick qc, and all the ai where dissapearing from the tac before i could even get a visual. went thru this routine a couple of times, and finally thout of targeting the ai, and hitting f4 till i got to the ai view. To my amazement,,the ai are spinning aimlessy around in a furious fashion..It was like doing multiplayer in off2 with someone living in Nepal... Have done the shut down restart thing, and it didnt clear up. Have not changed any settings, only thing different i can think of was that i did put the trackir ver 5 on, but cant see how that could possible be effecting the game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fboKndChjU8 and ideas... and,,,while your at it,,,anyone care to tell me how i embed a utupe video?

Sorry, but all the fixes for Damage Models came out for phase3 (bhah), so what you see is what you get for off2. But, BHAH is still only 39.99, and its a much better experience than off2. I would consider taking the plunge.

Hi, Seems like everyone is just putting them into the c:\obdsoftware\cfs3wwi over flanders fields\missions\training folder. once you have the missions xml file in the training folder, from the off manager, select the missions tab, from the active pilot for missions window, there is a drop down box at the bottom, scroll thru the list of missions till you find the one you want. For whatever reason, you cannot select the "current campaing mission-current missions available". It just hangs. this is pretty much the simplest way.

Ditto on trackIr ver 5.0. The interface is pretty cool....spent a half hour playaing there...but got subtle yet deffinite "jerkiness" in the game. Wonder if they (build 47 and ver 5.0) are for trackir5 only

Fuel train is a must try too.... hint,,,,attack the 2nd train from the front only, and break off fast...or else.

hmm,,,sorry i put you thru all that... wont even give you the "better you than me routine" :) too bad,,,we need a utility like that,,,,,, but anyways,,,here are some go arounds..... if you are doing campaingn,,,not sure if this is going to work too much, only cause the offmanager plays a more important part in campain than in qc, stand alone missions, or mp for missions, start from the offmanger, click on multiplayer (seems to be a problem getting to the missions medal from off mangaer directly), and after selecting any of the custom missions from the drop down, you end up at the mission and multiplayer screen. from here you can easily get into taskmanager. find your offmanager in the processes tab, and kill it. now you will be able to tab out of your mission or mp game without any problem. you can also make shortcuts on your desktop to cfs3.exe (for quick combat), and cfs3mp.exe (for missions and multiplayer). and start them from there rather than go thru the manager. If you do this, you will get the occaisionl situation where you dont have the medals you expected to get. (ie,,,cfs3mp.exe is giving you just a qc medal, and not the mision/mp medal). when this happens you have to go back to offmanger, and select the type of game you want, and then let it get to the point where you have the medal you want. then you can kill the manager again. Not sure the best way of describing what is happening here, other than to say the game remebers what you played last, and gives you the same medal for it...or something like that. some time soon i have to reload my os. before i take that plunge, i may give playexpert a shot.

http://www.gphotoshow.com/gpshow_free.htm#Download this one looked the best..... i got it off this page http://www.freesaver.com/tools01.htm im sure if you google it, you will find a ton more

well..acutally both,,,new build (37), and new track ir,,(only 50 bucks more if understood the post correctly) wider field of view,,,guess its good for ppl with big heads..

Anyone wanting to see an incredible display of firepower from the ground, get into pds fuel train mission, and make a beehive for the second train. Send a wingman in to attack it first, from the rear, and stay off to the side so you can watch the action. Tried to make a fraps out of it, but they just didnt do the action justice.