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What about us AO's ? Thats all I need is more CAD's in more inaccessable places. And don't forget that they'll all need safety wire, to be installed via the smallest,darkest,access panel. Even Kerry's not that dumb, this look's like McNamarra's doing. Oh, don't worry about crud control, most of the time it's the last stop for the squadrons problem children. I think the tool room is sacred ground again. ;)

I did and it hurt. :P Semper Fi Zag, let us know how things go.

Keep your head down and your powder dry. This keeps up and soon they'll be drafting us retiree's.

Cowboy Todd, I dont think you've been flamed. You in fact started a thread that so far has been civil. Your sense of duty is to be commended. The Chief is right though, I never in twenty years refused an order by my supeiriors. Thats from the 3rd class running a working party to to the Commander in Chief. Everyone I know has had and expressed some form of opinion about every President we served, but that never interfered with the performance of our duties. As I write this I have friends in the Gulf that have a lowered opinion of Pres. Bush, that doesn't mean they will shirk their duties, they just have an opinion,nothing more,nothing less. That we can even say that we dissagree with the current gov't is a gift that should be treasured, and defended.

Chief, Yes he did play that one, it's an old favorite of mine. The first time I heard it was my jr. year in high school. My first girlfriends mother worked for Tom T. Hall, but it was before we met, even so when I hear that song I think of her. Also played last sunday was the "Bertha Butt Boogie", "I'm Looking Over My Dead Dog Rover", "We Like Hockey". My wife and kids think I've completely lost it when I listen to the Dr. Different brands of humor I guess. And to Fates I leave a crate of my best whiskey and a......... Rabid Tasmainian Devil stuffed down his pants.

If you can find the new issue of PC Pilot, get it as the cover CD has both Patches. Get the LOMAN and weapons packs, they really make the game.

Over Mainside. The long building in on Ford Is. is the transit barracks, I actually lived there for thirty days during RIMPAC '96. Thats the wargame that is shown on the Discovery Channels. The dark shape on the waters edge is the ferry landing. Ferry's were used until a bridge was built to connect the Island to Main Side and Pearl City.

West side of Ford Island

here's a some shots of Pearl.

MJ, Here is the site with the links I use, very funny tonight the musical topic was Drinking. http://www.krellan.com/demento/ Good fuuny five too. I used to listen to him on KMET in L.A. back then he had a weekly top ten. Hope the link helps, don't forget to stay demented.

I was disgusted by the actions of a few sadists. I agree with Zagnut, what they did was illeagle, in violation of both the Geneva Convention and the UCMJ. I was taught in boot camp that mistreating a POW was forbidden. I asked my cousin who just got out of the Marines if he had recived training in regard to this, he said he did. It is espcially revolting to him and I as his grandfather, my uncle, was a POW in Japan, and we know how they followed the rules of war. As for "I was following oders", thats not an excuse, it's an indictment. Ask those at Nuremburg how well that excuse played out. Article 93 - Cruelty and maltreatment Article 99--Misbehavior before the enemy Article 113--Misbehavior of sentinel or lookout Article 134--General article Just some of the things they face, here is the website for the full description. http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/mcm/blmcm.htm

Chief, My Cat just reached retirment age, 14 on the 11th. Marty is my best friend, and at he has the run of the house. I just want to know one thing, how can an eight pound cat create a thirty pound catbox? and why is he smiling when I empty it ?

Just curious, anyone else still get demented? I"ve been listening to the Dr. since '74. The local stations wont play him here,but I've found him on the net. STAY DEMENTED!!!

Got a new addon that upgrades NAF Ford Island,PearlHarbor Hi. Puts smallboys in the West Lock, Mainside Pearl and two transiting to sea at Hospital Point. Also adds the Missouri and Utah Memorial. As for buildings, the red and white tower, transit barracks, Base housing with golf course. I'll try to post some shots soon. The only thing I didn't see was the Club. I found it here, http://www.flightsim.com It may show up else where too, but as I paid for access to this sight I make sure I use it. ;) Now to fire up my LCAC and cruise around the bay.

Chief, Everyone knows that we only use non-union labor. Saw the same thing at a Woodland Cougar exercise at Fairchild AFB. We had to share the armory with an ANG squadron from Portland Ore. and they had no idea what flight quaters was. They were working 12&12, staying at a hotel while we were living in an old alert bunker. At least we were fed well, got steak and shrimp three times that Det. ;)

For the record,those are AO's the Prsident is with. And I do know the Aviation Ordnance community does respect the current President.

T-Bone, Are you or were you ever in the US armed forces?, AF folks that I know hate him as much as the rest of us. For some one who was too cowardly to serve, Clinton was very quick to put us in harms way. With the same assinine restrictions that was foisted on us during the Viet Nam war. Look at Somolia, it was his SecDef that determined that armored vehicles were too "agressive". What did that policy result in?, soldiers dragged in the streets, and the ones who sent them there scrambling to cover their butts. No, Clinton is never to be trusted or respected, either one of them. As for USN folk having issues with him, his staff, while visiting one of our aircraft carriers, stole that ship blind. Ahstrays,towels, robes, everything that was missing had to be replaced out of the pockets of the sailors whose responsibilities it was to maintain those spaces. They stole,and expected the E-1's through E-4's to pay for their theft. So yes we have a major problem with him. The AF guys you've talked to must be either very new or very gullible to belive he was good for us. Enough said. GO NAVY!!

Congrats, enjoy your youth while you can. I graduated in '78 and was in the Navy and a father by '79. Remember, there are no refunds on a misspent youth. Get the most you can as quick as you can.

What a joke,respect for that pompas ass? I was in the Navy when he sized power and the first thing he did was slash this country's defenses. The ONLY thing he ever did was make Carter look good. Clinton was a gutless wonder who dodged the draft, renounced his citizenship, and sullyed the office of President. And I'm with the Chief, when I see his pasty face on TV, I want to puke.

Chief I've never know a jg that didn't say no to a Chiefs "request". Most of the Chiefs I knew would make an offer you couldn't refuse. Seriously, I would like to read an interview with Lt.jg Lacy. I doubt that the panels would available for general release, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

Thanks Top, I think the one I have is by him,but I downloaded the one on the link just in case. Besides, I was looking for some of the other planes that are there.

One more from the outside. And before anyone says it, I know it's the Chickenhawk and not the Washington. The ships are in different locations in the Islands.

I got this P-3C I think at simviation.com, and grabbed the file to put the carriers off the HI. Islands. It took a while but I got the Washington rigged for photos. What do you all think?

TG, I'm for this idea, but at least you weren't a Cessna 182 going Mach 1. would it help if we posted the planes we as individuals normaly fly? BTW thanks for the session, I didn't mean to just drop, but I got the Blue Screen of Death" and had to sort it out. See you in the skies.

Have a problem with TS, I'm getting an invalid port msg when I try to connect. I cross checked with the other two TS sites and it worked on them. Any one else having this problem?