Eagle114th

Hello everyone, It has been a long time since I have flown SF2 series sim. I am now back after seeing the news about SF2 being updated for Windows 10. I also missed flying SF2, I have been going through a very busy life. Now that I am balancing the times between hobbies, work, and living. I am wiping whole SF2 series installations and start over from scratch. I am truly overwhelmed by steer many amounts of mods available for SF2, especially with the fact that the modders are still enjoying modding and flying SF2. It is truly awesome to see that here! It has been decided that --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here are the questions. (QUESTIONS #1) I want to know how people manage the aircraft list for a multi nation in a multi-SF2 installations? I'll use F-15s as an example, it has F-15s for USAF, USN, HAF, IDF, and another countries. Since there are no features I am aware of in SF2 that would filter the aircraft list based on the nations yet. So if I install over 100+ flyable planes in SF2, i would have to scroll through a long list trying to find out which countries have the specific aircraft. I am thinking about doing this way: 1) Rename each aircraft in .ini to start with each nation's military branch abbreviation. Let's use F-15 as an example. [Regular SF2 aircraft list] F-15A Eagle F-15B Eagle F-15C Eagle F-15D Eagle F-15E Strike Eagle F-15I Ra'am (Thunder) F-15K Eagle etc... I am considering re-naming all F-15's ini file, in order, for all F-15s to appear as this way: JASDF F-15DJ Eagle JASDF F-15J Eagle IDF F-15I Ra'am (Thunder) RSAF F-15S Eagle ROKAF F-15K Eagle USAF F-15A Eagle USAF F-15B Eagle USAF F-15C Eagle USAF F-15E Strike Eagle etc... That way I can easily scroll through the list sorted by nations, then aircraft. What is your opinion about this? Questions #2: I have noticed that with the add-on aircraft, there are many multi-nations skins for the specific aircraft. For example, MiG-21F; I saw the skins for multi countries for one aircraft. I am planning on making the copies of MiG-21F (And edit their nation and ordinance in aircraft's data.ini) and rename the folder as: MiG-21F_RU MiG-21F_India MiG-21F_Syria etc... Then divide the skins into unique MiG-21Fs, that way I can easily load a specific nation's MiG-21F with their own default skins, along with their additional skins. However, I still am wondering how SF2 handle multi-national aircraft. Would my method be obsolete if there is a better way? How do people handle multi-national skins for any aircraft? If There is a way to filter the list of specific national aircraft without having to make copies of specific aircraft, please share here. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am planning on making a multi-SF2 installations this way: SF2 (Default - For backup / reference purposes) SF2 Asia (This cover Korea War and Vietnam War, along other campaigns and aircraft that flies in Asia) SF2 Middle East (This covers campaigns and aircraft that flies in Middle East) SF2 NATO (This covers campaigns and aircraft that flies in Europe) SF2 WARSAW (This covers Russia / Soviet and other WARSAW nations) Note: In this, I aim to make Russia / Soviet and other WARSAW flyable only while disabling cockpits for NATO + Western aircraft. so I can easily go through list of aircraft for Russia and other nearby nations.) SF2 North America (This covers a huge numbers of aircraft from North America.) SF2 South America (This covers all campaigns and aircraft from South America.) I will do it slowly through the year. My first step is to install the campaigns and carefully merge them (if they cover the same places), terrains, and other mods that expands the SF2. After doing all of that, I will slowly add aircraft for each nation. As stated, before doing it, I want the opinions here. Cheers!

I appreciate your helps. I tested it with a modified IAF shortcut. Unfortunately, I still get a laggy cockpit / HUD after taking off. By the way, there is an alternative solution. Instead of running dgvoodoo2, DXWind solved the laggy cockpit / HUD problems while allowing you to run Jane's IAF on a higher resolution with a proper aspect ratio. I am able to run Jane's IAF on 1920 x 1080 while being locked in aspect ratio the way Jane's IAF was designed to run. The information is updated now: http://jkpeterson.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2464&p=21660#p21660

EVERYONE, It was recently found out that dgvoodoo2 causes unstable problems with Jane's IAF. It is still being looked at. It is reported that if you press "ESC" in flight while using dgvoodoo2, it won't work. It causes you to alt+tab then back to game being frozen. It also caused problems with preference when assigning buttons. If you have button already assigned, it'll alt+tab you and ask if you want to overwrite the assigned button. After that, you need to exit the game and run IAF again. I sincerely apologize for causing any disappointment with dgvoodoo2. I am still figuring out how to solve the problems with laggy FPS when being in cockpit / HUD view (without dgvoodoo2), and at the same time, still configuring to see if dgvoodoo2 problems can be solved too. I updated the information in Jane's IAF installation instruction.

Thank you very much for the file! I am off downloading them now. I am making backups of Super Pro from multi sources, that way I have all needed files.

I am happy to be able to help you with what you were seeking for. If you get to learn how to use Super Pro, please teach me how to use it too. Have a great flying!

Hello everyone, I learned a lot about Jane's USAF Super Pro 9.4. However, I still am looking for more modding tools and add-on files for Jane's USAF and Super pro. I still do not understand about using Super Pro launcher, DME, and UME right now. However, I created the instructions on how to install Jane's USAF, Super Pro, and added the information from Super Pro README. And to anyone who want to install and run Jane's Fighter Anthology, Jane's IAF, Jane's USAF, Super Pro 9.4, and Jane's WWII Fighters, here are the links: Jane's FA (true aspect ratio + reshade) Win 10 Instructions http://jkpeterson.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2463 Jane's IAF (Windows 10) - Installation instruction http://jkpeterson.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2464 Jane's USAF (Windows 10) - Installation instruction http://jkpeterson.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2462 Super Pro README http://jkpeterson.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2466 Jane's USAF Super Pro - Install / modding tools / Data http://jkpeterson.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2467 Jane's WWII Fighters (Windows 10) - Installation instruction http://jkpeterson.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2465 By the way, there is a small community that still fly Jane's series sim: http://jkpeterson.net/forum/index.php And discord: https://discord.gg/9mYtuPuG

Ragnarokryan, Good morning! Thank you for the reply. I, too, had the problems with Jane's IAF and I solved it by using both Tackleberry's Jane's FA-IAF-USAF patch and dgVoodoo2. When I used a fix patch only, there was a problem with Jane's IAF where it became laggy / slutter when entering a cockpit / hud mode. I fixed the problems by using dgVoodoo2. Note: With both tackleberry's patch + dgVoodoo2, I am able to use a regular IAF.exe. ------------------------------------------------------------- What I do, in order, to get Jane's IAF working on Windows 10: 1) I Installed Jane's IAF and patched it 2) Tackleberry Patch: https://www.moddb.com/games/janes-united-states-air-force/downloads/tackleberrys-patches-for-usaf-iaf-and-fa NOTE: There is a IAF patch in a folder "JITP 3) Download dgVoodoo2 I copied all files from dgVoodoo2_72\MS\x86 to IAF main folder. Then I copied dgVoodoo.config and dgVoodooCpl.exe to IAF main folder. 4) Run dgVoodooCpl.exe and I tweaked it this way (I am still learning about using dgVoodooCpl.exe): [/img] [/img] 5) Ran IAFCONFIG.EXE and make sure "Run Hardware Acceleration is selected 6) Run IAF.exe ----------------------------------------- By the way, I am able to successfully getting Jane's Fighter Anthology, Jane's IAF, Jane's USAF, and Jane's WWII Fighters running on Windows 10. I am working on Jane's Longbow 2. Since I missed out Super Pro 9.4 long time ago, I want to take an opportunity to fly Jane's USAF again with Super Pro 9.4, so I can enjoy a fully modded Jane's USAF to fullest. Not only for me, also for the community who is still modding Jane's sims to this day. It is my goal to bring Jane's USAF back alive with the community. If you struggle to install and run Jane's USAF on WIndows 10, I wrote an instruction on how to set up Jane's USAF at this link: http://jkpeterson.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2462 There is none another sims that are as good as Jane's series sim (Having the balanced between simple and complex). Strike Fighters are good but in my opinion, they are too simple. No air to ground locking for long range ATG missiles, no clickable MFD in a simple way, etc. DCS World / Falcon BMS is too complicated. Jane's IAF and USAF is perfect in the balance between both worlds. At the other hand, IL-2 1946 is also perfect for me because I can disable a complex engine management and still experience realistic flying of aircraft, operate weapons, etc... Just like Jane's USAF. Just jump into any plane, take off and fly each of aircraft realistically while operating the weapons, radar, etc...

Good morning everyone! I have been looking for information on how to install Jane's USAF big mod package known as Super Pro 9.4 for Windows 10. I have successfully set up Jane's USAF and have it running on Windows 10 with Tcklbrry patch. I have been spending a long time trying to get Super Pro 9.4 working. The links for a fully upgraded Super Pro 9.4 are also unavailable. Many of the websites related to Jane's USAF and Super Pro 9.4 ar also not avaiable anymore. If any of you have the information or the knowledge on how to set up Super Pro 9.4 or have the links to the fully upgraded Super Pro 9.4, please let me know. Thank you very much! Kind regards, Eagle114th

Thank you and as soon there is any updates for it, I will upload it too. FalconC45, Stratos, and other modders are helping me with the mods. Any helps from the community is always appreciated!

The mod is finally released and here is the link:

View File Bell D-188 (F-109 / XF3L) Projects for SF2 Bell D-188 (XF-109 / XF3L) “What if” Projects for Thirdwire Strike Fighter 2 I am big fan of Bell D-188 projects and when I saw XF-109 for SF2, I got inspired to expand XF-109. I quote the statement from author of XF-109 mod for SF2: "Had it been built, the Bell D-188A project would have been one of the most unorthodox aircraft to fly, and certainly the most unusual in the US Air Force inventory." - Veltro2k, creator of XF-109 mods for SF1 / SF2. I want to give Bell D-188 the opportunities to be flown by anyone virtually in simulation, no matter how flawed she may be. I decided to work on both Bell D-188 (XF-109 for USAF) and D-188A (XF3L for US Navy). I want to give my big thank to Veltro2K for creating XF-109 in the first place and Wrench for upgrading XF-109 mod for SF2, especially for sharing his updated files with me. I, too, want to thank Combatace community, all of you are reasons why I worked on this project. And at the same time, please keep in mind that there are several files that are from other mods, I am giving credits to all modders who created each materials that is used in Bell D-188 projects: CREDITS: Note: If it is required that I must take any of the files off from D-188 Projects, please let me know. I will fix it ASAP and I intend to respect everyone’s work, especially giving credits to everyone who is involved with D-188 projects. To my friends and Combatace community: I truly thank everyone who got involved with D-188 projects, all of you are reasons why I am able to finish this project. All of you rocks! Bell XF-109 for SF2: I give my big thank to Veltro2k for creating XF-109 (D-188) mod for SF1 and SF2. ( http://combatace.com/files/file/13169-bell-xf-109/ ) He is the reason why I have the opportunities to work on mod projects for SF2, along with Combatace community. Bell XF-109 updates: I express my many thanks to Wrench for being very involved with D-188 projects. He has helped me lot with the mod, especially sending me his updated data.ini files for XF-109. ( http://combatace.com/topic/74104-f-109-tweeks-pak-for-sf2/ ) Sound effects: J85-GE.wav and J85-GE_AB.wav are directly from Macelena’s F-5E mods for SF2 ( http://combatace.com/files/file/10446-mirage-factory-f-5e-for-sf2/ ), I truly thank him for the sound files for J85-GE. Note: J85-GE.wav and J85-GE_AB.wav are renamed from F5Engine.wav and F5AB.wav. The reason why I renamed the files is because there are so many sound files from different mods for SF2. I hope that renamed files will make it easier to find in sound folder, just for in case, if anyone need to find them. Afterburner effects: Afterburner came from Mirage Factory F-8 Crusader Superpack for SF2. ( http://combatace.com/files/file/10646-mirage-factory-f-8-crusader-super-pack/ ) and I truly thank to everyone who is involved creating F-8 Crusader Superpack for SF2. To everyone who helped me: Wrench à Thank you for the help with feedback involved, it helped lot with D-188 projects. 76.IAP-Blackbird à Thank you for your help with D-188 projects. FalconC45 à Thank you so much for helping testing the mods. Instruction: 1) Extract D-188_Project and you will see 4 folders: a. Effects b. Sounds c. STOL Versions d. VSTOL Versions (Note: For F/A-109B (USMC), I highly recommend V/STOL version for taking off / landing on USMC ships. There are still STOL version, for in case, if you still prefer to go with STOL method. 2) Drop Effects and Sounds folder into main Strike Fighter 2 mod folder. 3) There are two different versions of Bell D-188 (F-109s and F/A-109s): a. STOL version – All of aircraft have all 6 jet engines operation, especially when you are in STOL mode. Because all engines from rotating engines and main fuselage engines are running at the same time, it is impossible to performance VTOL mode. b. V/STOL version – All of aircraft only have rotating engine operation. I divided the thrusts from main fuselage engines and added them to rotating engines, to make up for main fuselage engines not having any thrusts. (See “Flight model” for more information about flight model for VSTOL version) This enable you to be able to performance V/STOL and VTOL mode. However, I removed afterburner effects from main fuselage engines (except for exhaust smokes). It does not look right if you are in VTOL mode with afterburner running from fuselage. But you still can re-enable afterburner for main fuselage engines with few steps. Look at bottom of README for the instruction for re-enabling afterburner effects. 4) For your information, XF-109s / F-109s are USAF version, XF3L / F/A-109s are US Navy and US Marine Corps version. 5) Go into either STOL or VSTOL version of folders, drop Objects folder into main Strike Fighter 2 mod folder. Information: 1) XF-109 is based on D-188 project which is historically designed for US Air Force. F-109s variants aircraft are fictional “What if” if US Air Force decided to accept XF-109. 2) XF3L is based on D-188 project which is historically designed for US Navy. F/A-109s variants are fictional “What if” US Navy and US Marine Corp decided to accept XF3L. 3) Configuration/Upgrades for XF-109 / F-109s (USAF): a. XF-109 (1961) i. Prototype version ii. Powered by J85-GE-5 iii. Role: Interceptor b. F-109A (1964) i. Role: Interceptor ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-5A c. F-109A (1969) i. Role: Interceptor ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-13 iii. Counter measure equipment implemented 1. Chaff / Flare d. F-109B (1969) i. Role: Fighter and bomber ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-13 iii. More capable of delivering air to ground various ordinances iv. Counter measure equipment implemented 1. Chaff / Flare e. F-109B (1973) i. Role: Fighter - Bomber ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-21 iii. Upgraded with capable of carrying laser guided ordinances iv. Upgraded counter measure 1. Increased numbers of chaff / flare f. F-109B (1976) i. Role: Fighter - Bomber ii. Upgraded with more advanced avionics in cockpit iii. Capable of carrying more advanced air to air / air to ground ordinances iv. Upgraded counter measure 1. Increased numbers of chaff / flare g. F-109C (1980) i. Role: Multi-Role ii. Upgraded with more advanced avionics and cockpit h. F-109G (1971) i. Role: SEAD “Wild Weasel” ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-13 iii. Counter measure equipment implemented 1. Embedded ECM 2. Chaff / Flare iv. Capable of delivering various air to ground ordinances, especially for role of SEAD. i. F-109G (1976) i. Role: SEAD “Wild Weasel” ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-21 iii. Upgraded with more advanced avionics in cockpit iv. Capable of carrying more advanced air to ground ordinances 4) Configuration/Upgrades for XF3L / F/A-109s (USN): a. XF3L (1963) i. Prototype version ii. Powered by J85-GE-5 iii. Role: Multi-Role b. F/A-109A (1969) i. Role: Multi-Role ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-13 iii. More capable of delivering air to air / air to ground various ordinances iv. Counter measure equipment implemented 1. Chaff / Flare c. F/A-109A (1973) i. Role: Multi-Role ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-21 iii. Upgraded with capable of carrying laser guided ordinances iv. Upgraded counter measure 1. Increased numbers of chaff / flare d. F/A-109A (1977) i. Role: Multi-Role ii. Upgraded with more advanced avionics in cockpit iii. Capable of carrying more advanced air to air / air to ground ordinances iv. Upgraded counter measure 1. Increased numbers of chaff / flare 5) Configuration/Upgrades for F/A-109s (USMC): a. F/A-109B (1972) i. Role: Multi-Role ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-21 iii. Capable of delivering air to air / air to ground various ordinances iv. Counter measure equipment implemented 1. Chaff / Flare b. F/A-109B (1976) i. Role: Multi-Role ii. Upgraded with more advanced avionics in cockpit iii. Upgraded with capable of carrying laser guided ordinances iv. Upgraded counter measure 1. Increased numbers of chaff / flare c. F/A-109B (1984) i. Role: Multi-Role ii. Upgraded with more advanced avionics and cockpit iii. Capable of carrying more advanced air to air / air to ground ordinances iv. Upgraded counter measure 1. Increased numbers of chaff / flare EXTRA: 1) Re-enable Afterburner effects for STOL version: a. For anyone who want to re-able afterburner effects for STOL version, open aircraft data.ini file and find this line of code: // Engine - Fuselage ---------------------------------------------------------- b. Under both [FusEngineLeft] and [FusEngineRight], you will see this code: //AfterburnerEmitterName=F8AfterburnerEmitter c. Remove “//” from the code, so it looks like this: AfterburnerEmitterName=F8AfterburnerEmitter d. Now you have working afterburner effects back in main fuselage engines, even when you are hovering in V/STOL version of aircraft. Texture / Skins: For now, D-188 (F-109s/F3Ls) projects do not have any additional skins for each aircraft, so if anyone have plans to create skins for D-188 projects, please let me know. Any more skins for F-109s / F3Ls are always welcomed. Flight model: I am not expert with the flight mode. If anyone can help with flight model, the helps are always welcomed for D-188 (F-109s/F3Ls) projects! I did the basic flight model tweaking, in order, to make F-109s/F3L feel more realistic when flying them in SF2, theoretically. The flight model is originally created by Veltro2K and updated by Wrench. Here are following features I tweaked in flight model: 1) Slow roll rate = With two engines being mounted on each tip of wings, it means lot of weights. And at the same time, with small wings from D-188s aircraft like F-104, in my opinion, it means slower roll rate. However, as I stated, I am not an expert with flight model and any helps with flight model overhaul is always welcomed. 2) Fixed sensitive rudder = The rudder was very sensitive so I reduced it lot, in order, for D-188s to have small movement when using rudder. 3) Engines overhaul = I have done lot of works on each engine powers for each aircraft. This is the math I used to convert lb of thrust to Netwon: Note: XXX is any given numbers. XXX lb (thrust) = XXX lb x 4.45 = XXX (thrust) Newton And keep in mind that STOL / VSTOL version of each aircraft engine have different thrusts. STOL have accuracy thrusts in newton for each six engine while VSTOL have increased thrusts for four engines. Here are example: XF-109 (STOL version) Engine #1: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) Engine #2: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) Engine #3: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) Engine #4: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) Engine #5: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) Engine #6: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) XF-109 (V/STOL version) Note: Because Engine #5 / #6 which is main fuselage engine having no thrusts, I divided them and moved to engine #1 to engine #2. Engine #5 + engine #6 = Total engine thrust divided by four, then add them to each engine. Engine #5: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) Engine #6: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) Total Engine thrust: 4,800 LB (DRY) 7,200 (AB) / 4 = 1,200 LB (DRY) 1,800 (AB) Engine #1: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) + 1,200 LB (DRY) 1,800 (AB) Engine #2: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) + 1,200 LB (DRY) 1,800 (AB) Engine #3: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) + 1,200 LB (DRY) 1,800 (AB) Engine #4: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) + 1,200 LB (DRY) 1,800 (AB) Result: Note: Engine #1 to #4 is rotating engines while Engine #5 to #6 is main fuselage engines. Engine #1: 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,400 LB (AB) Engine #2: 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,400 LB (AB) Engine #3: 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,400 LB (AB) Engine #4: 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,400 LB (AB) Engine #5: 0 LB (DRY) 0 LB (AB) Engine #6: 0 LB (DRY) 0 LB (AB) V/STOL version have fuselage engines thrust moved to each rotating engines, to make up for having no thrusts in fuselage engines. Here is the date about engines that each aircraft uses: Aircraft (Service Date) Engine Thrust in LB (Dry / AB - Afterburner) XF-109 (1961 - 1969) J85-GE-5 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) F-109A (1964 - 1975) J85-GE-5A 2,450 LB (DRY) 3,850 LB (AB) F-109A (1969 - 1978) J85-GE-13 2,720 LB (DRY) 4,080 LB (AB) F-109A (1975 - 1986) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F-109B (1969 - 1979) J85-GE-13 2,720 LB (DRY) 4,080 LB (AB) F-109B (1973 - 1984) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F-109B (1976 - 1990) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F-109C (1980 - 1996) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F-109G (1971 - 1984) J85-GE-13 2,720 LB (DRY) 4,080 LB (AB) F-109G (1976 - 1996) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) --------------------------------------------------------------------- XF3L (1963 - 1970) J85-GE-5A 2,450 LB (DRY) 3,850 LB (AB) F/A-109A (1969 - 1980) J85-GE-13 2,720 LB (DRY) 4,080 LB (AB) F/A-109A (1973 - 1986) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F/A-109A (1977 - 1996) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) --------------------------------------------------------------------- F/A-109B (1972 - 1982) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F/A-109B (1976 - 1990) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F/A-109B (1982 - 1996) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) Feedback: Feedback are always appreciated for improving D-188 (F-109s / F3Ls) project. I aim to keep improving project through time when I get the chance. Message for everyone: I truly hope that everyone enjoys the project I created for Thirdwire Strike Fighter 2 communities with the help from my friends and Combatace communities. Eagle114th / ChaoticDragon - http://combatace.com/user/843-eagle114th/ Submitter Eagle114th Submitted 01/06/2018 Category Other

Everyone, it is released! Here is the link:

Everyone, I am back! Here is the link to updated information about this project:

Hello everyone! I am back after have been gone for over a year after having gotten my new gaming laptop and new job in Tokyo, Japan! It have been my lifetime dream to work and live here in Japan. I finally managed to get my first job here and it have been keeping me very busy! However, it is great to be back and I managed to finish what I was working on D-188 project. I am unable to expand it as way I would wanted for it, so if anyone can expand it further, that would be great! I am posting the updated information here. The D-188 projects mod are currently being tested with help from my long time best friend FalconC45. At once the mod is all good, I will upload and release it in here. I am really looking forward sharing the mods with everyone here! Here is the updated information: Bell D-188 (XF-109 / XF3L) “What if” Projects for Thirdwire Strike Fighter 2 I am big fan of Bell D-188 projects and when I saw XF-109 for SF2, I got inspired to expand XF-109. I quote the statement from author of XF-109 mod for SF2: "Had it been built, the Bell D-188A project would have been one of the most unorthodox aircraft to fly, and certainly the most unusual in the US Air Force inventory." - Veltro2k, creator of XF-109 mods for SF1 / SF2. I want to give Bell D-188 the opportunities to be flown by anyone virtually in simulation, no matter how flawed she may be. I decided to work on both Bell D-188 (XF-109 for USAF) and D-188A (XF3L for US Navy). I want to give my big thank to Veltro2K for creating XF-109 in the first place and Wrench for upgrading XF-109 mod for SF2, especially for sharing his updated files with me. I, too, want to thank Combatace community, all of you are reasons why I worked on this project. And at the same time, please keep in mind that there are several files that are from other mods, I am giving credits to all modders who created each materials that is used in Bell D-188 projects: CREDITS: Note: If it is required that I must take any of the files off from D-188 Projects, please let me know. I will fix it ASAP and I intend to respect everyone’s work, especially giving credits to everyone who is involved with D-188 projects. To my friends and Combatace community: I truly thank everyone who got involved with D-188 projects, all of you are reasons why I am able to finish this project. All of you rocks! Bell XF-109 for SF2: I give my big thank to Veltro2k for creating XF-109 (D-188) mod for SF1 and SF2. ( http://combatace.com/files/file/13169-bell-xf-109/ ) He is the reason why I have the opportunities to work on mod projects for SF2, along with Combatace community. Bell XF-109 updates: I express my many thanks to Wrench for being very involved with D-188 projects. He has helped me lot with the mod, especially sending me his updated data.ini files for XF-109. ( http://combatace.com/topic/74104-f-109-tweeks-pak-for-sf2/ ) Sound effects: J85-GE.wav and J85-GE_AB.wav are directly from Macelena’s F-5E mods for SF2 ( http://combatace.com/files/file/10446-mirage-factory-f-5e-for-sf2/ ), I truly thank him for the sound files for J85-GE. Note: J85-GE.wav and J85-GE_AB.wav are renamed from F5Engine.wav and F5AB.wav. The reason why I renamed the files is because there are so many sound files from different mods for SF2. I hope that renamed files will make it easier to find in sound folder, just for in case, if anyone need to find them. Afterburner effects: Afterburner came from Mirage Factory F-8 Crusader Superpack for SF2. ( http://combatace.com/files/file/10646-mirage-factory-f-8-crusader-super-pack/ ) and I truly thank to everyone who is involved creating F-8 Crusader Superpack for SF2. To everyone who helped me: Wrench à Thank you for the help with feedback involved, it helped lot with D-188 projects. 76.IAP-Blackbird à Thank you for your help with D-188 projects. FalconC45 - Thank you for helping me with testing D-188s project mods! Instruction: 1) Extract D-188_Project and you will see 4 folders: a. Effects b. Sounds c. STOL Versions d. VSTOL Versions (Note: For F/A-109B (USMC), I highly recommend V/STOL version for taking off / landing on USMC ships. There are still STOL version, for in case, if you still prefer to go with STOL method. 2) Drop Effects and Sounds folder into main Strike Fighter 2 mod folder. 3) There are two different versions of Bell D-188 (F-109s and F/A-109s): a. STOL version – All of aircraft have all 6 jet engines operation, especially when you are in STOL mode. Because all engines from rotating engines and main fuselage engines are running at the same time, it is impossible to performance VTOL mode. b. V/STOL version – All of aircraft only have rotating engine operation. I divided the thrusts from main fuselage engines and added them to rotating engines, to make up for main fuselage engines not having any thrusts. (See “Flight model” for more information about flight model for VSTOL version) This enable you to be able to performance V/STOL and VTOL mode. However, I removed afterburner effects from main fuselage engines (except for exhaust smokes). It does not look right if you are in VTOL mode with afterburner running from fuselage. But you still can re-enable afterburner for main fuselage engines with few steps. Look at bottom of README for the instruction for re-enabling afterburner effects. 4) For your information, XF-109s / F-109s are USAF version, XF3L / F/A-109s are US Navy and US Marine Corps version. 5) Go into either STOL or VSTOL version of folders, drop Objects folder into main Strike Fighter 2 mod folder. Information: 1) XF-109 is based on D-188 project which is historically designed for US Air Force. F-109s variants aircraft are fictional “What if” if US Air Force decided to accept XF-109. 2) XF3L is based on D-188 project which is historically designed for US Navy. F/A-109s variants are fictional “What if” US Navy and US Marine Corp decided to accept XF3L. 3) Configuration/Upgrades for XF-109 / F-109s (USAF): a. XF-109 (1961) i. Prototype version ii. Powered by J85-GE-5 iii. Role: Interceptor b. F-109A (1964) i. Role: Interceptor ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-5A c. F-109A (1969) i. Role: Interceptor ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-13 iii. Counter measure equipment implemented 1. Chaff / Flare d. F-109B (1969) i. Role: Fighter and bomber ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-13 iii. More capable of delivering air to ground various ordinances iv. Counter measure equipment implemented 1. Chaff / Flare e. F-109B (1973) i. Role: Fighter - Bomber ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-21 iii. Upgraded with capable of carrying laser guided ordinances iv. Upgraded counter measure 1. Increased numbers of chaff / flare f. F-109B (1976) i. Role: Fighter - Bomber ii. Upgraded with more advanced avionics in cockpit iii. Capable of carrying more advanced air to air / air to ground ordinances iv. Upgraded counter measure 1. Increased numbers of chaff / flare g. F-109C (1980) i. Role: Multi-Role ii. Upgraded with more advanced avionics and cockpit h. F-109G (1971) i. Role: SEAD “Wild Weasel” ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-13 iii. Counter measure equipment implemented 1. Embedded ECM 2. Chaff / Flare iv. Capable of delivering various air to ground ordinances, especially for role of SEAD. i. F-109G (1976) i. Role: SEAD “Wild Weasel” ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-21 iii. Upgraded with more advanced avionics in cockpit iv. Capable of carrying more advanced air to ground ordinances 4) Configuration/Upgrades for XF3L / F/A-109s (USN): a. XF3L (1963) i. Prototype version ii. Powered by J85-GE-5 iii. Role: Multi-Role b. F/A-109A (1969) i. Role: Multi-Role ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-13 iii. More capable of delivering air to air / air to ground various ordinances iv. Counter measure equipment implemented 1. Chaff / Flare c. F/A-109A (1973) i. Role: Multi-Role ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-21 iii. Upgraded with capable of carrying laser guided ordinances iv. Upgraded counter measure 1. Increased numbers of chaff / flare d. F/A-109A (1977) i. Role: Multi-Role ii. Upgraded with more advanced avionics in cockpit iii. Capable of carrying more advanced air to air / air to ground ordinances iv. Upgraded counter measure 1. Increased numbers of chaff / flare 5) Configuration/Upgrades for F/A-109s (USMC): a. F/A-109B (1972) i. Role: Multi-Role ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-21 iii. Capable of delivering air to air / air to ground various ordinances iv. Counter measure equipment implemented 1. Chaff / Flare b. F/A-109B (1976) i. Role: Multi-Role ii. Upgraded with more advanced avionics in cockpit iii. Upgraded with capable of carrying laser guided ordinances iv. Upgraded counter measure 1. Increased numbers of chaff / flare c. F/A-109B (1984) i. Role: Multi-Role ii. Upgraded with more advanced avionics and cockpit iii. Capable of carrying more advanced air to air / air to ground ordinances iv. Upgraded counter measure 1. Increased numbers of chaff / flare EXTRA: 1) Re-enable Afterburner effects for STOL version: a. For anyone who want to re-able afterburner effects for STOL version, open aircraft data.ini file and find this line of code: // Engine - Fuselage ---------------------------------------------------------- b. Under both [FusEngineLeft] and [FusEngineRight], you will see this code: //AfterburnerEmitterName=F8AfterburnerEmitter c. Remove “//” from the code, so it looks like this: AfterburnerEmitterName=F8AfterburnerEmitter d. Now you have working afterburner effects back in main fuselage engines, even when you are hovering in V/STOL version of aircraft. Texture / Skins: For now, D-188 (F-109s/F3Ls) projects do not have any additional skins for each aircraft, so if anyone have plans to create skins for D-188 projects, please let me know. Any more skins for F-109s / F3Ls are always welcomed. Flight model: I am not expert with the flight mode. If anyone can help with flight model, the helps are always welcomed for D-188 (F-109s/F3Ls) projects! I did the basic flight model tweaking, in order, to make F-109s/F3L feel more realistic when flying them in SF2, theoretically. The flight model is originally created by Veltro2K and updated by Wrench. Here are following features I tweaked in flight model: 1) Slow roll rate = With two engines being mounted on each tip of wings, it means lot of weights. And at the same time, with small wings from D-188s aircraft like F-104, in my opinion, it means slower roll rate. However, as I stated, I am not an expert with flight model and any helps with flight model overhaul is always welcomed. 2) Fixed sensitive rudder = The rudder was very sensitive so I reduced it lot, in order, for D-188s to have small movement when using rudder. 3) Engines overhaul = I have done lot of works on each engine powers for each aircraft. This is the math I used to convert lb of thrust to Netwon: Note: XXX is any given numbers. XXX lb (thrust) = XXX lb x 4.45 = XXX (thrust) Newton And keep in mind that STOL / VSTOL version of each aircraft engine have different thrusts. STOL have accuracy thrusts in newton for each six engine while VSTOL have increased thrusts for four engines. Here are example: XF-109 (STOL version) Engine #1: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) Engine #2: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) Engine #3: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) Engine #4: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) Engine #5: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) Engine #6: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) XF-109 (V/STOL version) Note: Because Engine #5 / #6 which is main fuselage engine having no thrusts, I divided them and moved to engine #1 to engine #2. Engine #5 + engine #6 = Total engine thrust divided by four, then add them to each engine. Engine #5: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) Engine #6: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) Total Engine thrust: 4,800 LB (DRY) 7,200 (AB) / 4 = 1,200 LB (DRY) 1,800 (AB) Engine #1: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) + 1,200 LB (DRY) 1,800 (AB) Engine #2: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) + 1,200 LB (DRY) 1,800 (AB) Engine #3: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) + 1,200 LB (DRY) 1,800 (AB) Engine #4: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) + 1,200 LB (DRY) 1,800 (AB) Result: Note: Engine #1 to #4 is rotating engines while Engine #5 to #6 is main fuselage engines. Engine #1: 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,400 LB (AB) Engine #2: 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,400 LB (AB) Engine #3: 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,400 LB (AB) Engine #4: 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,400 LB (AB) Engine #5: 0 LB (DRY) 0 LB (AB) Engine #6: 0 LB (DRY) 0 LB (AB) V/STOL version have fuselage engines thrust moved to each rotating engines, to make up for having no thrusts in fuselage engines. Here is the date about engines that each aircraft uses: Aircraft (Service Date) Engine Thrust in LB (Dry / AB - Afterburner) XF-109 (1961 - 1964) J85-GE-5 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) F-109A (1964 - 1972) J85-GE-5A 2,450 LB (DRY) 3,850 LB (AB) F-109A (1969 - 1976) J85-GE-13 2,720 LB (DRY) 4,080 LB (AB) F-109B (1969 - 1976) J85-GE-13 2,720 LB (DRY) 4,080 LB (AB) F-109B (1973 - 1979) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F-109B (1976 - 1982) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F-109C (1980 - 1996) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F-109G (1971 - 1976) J85-GE-13 2,720 LB (DRY) 4,080 LB (AB) F-109G (1976 - 1982) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) --------------------------------------------------------------------- XF3L (1963 - 1969) J85-GE-5A 2,450 LB (DRY) 3,850 LB (AB) F/A-109A (1969 - 1974) J85-GE-13 2,720 LB (DRY) 4,080 LB (AB) F/A-109A (1973 - 1978) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F/A-109A (1977 - 1982) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) --------------------------------------------------------------------- F/A-109B (1972 - 1978) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F/A-109B (1976 - 1982) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F/A-109B (1980 - 1988) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) Feedback: Feedback are always appreciated for improving D-188 (F-109s / F3Ls) project. I aim to keep improving project through time when I get the chance. Message for everyone: I truly hope that everyone enjoys the project I created for Thirdwire Strike Fighter 2 communities with the help from my friends and Combatace communities. Eagle114th / ChaoticDragon - http://combatace.com/user/843-eagle114th/

I am happy you bought this up. I thought about this last night after discussing with my friend FalconCAF. I realized that F/A-18 is multi-role and since F/A-109 is multi-role too, so I thought that, by alternative history, F/A get introduced earlier from XF3L program before F/A-18 was born. But I would like more feedback on this idea. This is why I want to keep brainstorming and see more perspective about aircraft naming. I like either F-109 series or F/A-109 series for USN and USMC. And to answer your question, F-109 goes into USAF service first before USN and USMC. Good suggestions and may I ask you about XF3L: 1) Why is XF3L not used after 1962 for further testing for aircraft carrier operation? Makes sense and that is good point. I will update the year service for USN and USMC being lot shorter than USAF version. Thank you for bring this up, I learn new things from here. No need to apologize and I especially appreciate critical feedback. As I stated in my first post that I intend to keep all aspect of 'what if" aircraft realistic as possible. For example, F/A as name of aircraft for USN could possibly come earlier before F/A-18 due to the nature of F/A-109 being multi-role, like F/A-18 was. (Correct me if I am wrong about F/A-18 being multi-role) but again, I am waiting for feedback on that. However, at the same time, as you stated about the pressures and other factors that causes USN and USMC version of D-188 projects to have shorter lifespan than USAF makes completely sense. And that is something I plan to do with D-188 projects. I intend to keep project evolving into better project, so any kind of feedback, especially critical feedback are always appreciated. I was thinking of something similar to this. And I want to add another factors, the performance of F-109s is inferior to F-15, F-16, F/A-18 and other aircraft from late 1970s to ahead of that time, except for Harrier (theoretically ???). Even though F-109 would be nightmare to maintain, she is supersonic that goes faster than harrier, but again, as you stated, harrier are easier to maintain. So i want more feedback on USMC possibly having extended service for F-109s along with harrier with their V/STOL capabilities. There could be far fewer F-109s (being very rare in the service after 1980s) than harriers in the service for specific purposes? And about NATO, I would like to start working on NATO version after USAF, USN, and USMC version is completed and released as beta. And when that happens in near future, I will need more information and feedback for NATO version.

I am not entirely familiar with ODS, can I ask you to explain me more about ODS?

I recently updated the list of aircraft name, service years, and engines. I give credits to daddyairplanes for posting great ideas about aircraft name for USN/USMC and service years. XF-109 (1961 - 1969) J85-GE-5 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) F-109A (1964 - 1975) J85-GE-5A 2,450 LB (DRY) 3,850 LB (AB) F-109A (1969 - 1978) J85-GE-13 2,720 LB (DRY) 4,080 LB (AB) F-109A (1975 - 1986) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F-109B (1969 - 1979) J85-GE-13 2,720 LB (DRY) 4,080 LB (AB) F-109B (1973 - 1984) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F-109B (1976 - 1990) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F-109C (1980 - 1996) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F-109G (1971 - 1984) J85-GE-13 2,720 LB (DRY) 4,080 LB (AB) F-109G (1976 - 1996) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) --------------------------------------------------------------------- XF3L (1963 - 1970) J85-GE-5A 2,450 LB (DRY) 3,850 LB (AB) F/A-109A (1969 - 1980) J85-GE-13 2,720 LB (DRY) 4,080 LB (AB) F/A-109A (1973 - 1986) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F/A-109A (1977 - 1996) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) --------------------------------------------------------------------- F/A-109B (1972 - 1982) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F/A-109B (1976 - 1990) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F/A-109B (1982 - 1996) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) As always, any feedback are appreciated.

I was testing F3L-2 (1972) today with Vietnam map from Vietnam war mod. And I was starting recon mission in F3L-2 hoping I would get to take off from aircraft carrier. After loading up the missions, to my surprise, I was on small ship deck that is meant to be used for helicopter. I decided to have fun with it so why not try taking off from small ship? It was tricky but at the same time, F3L-2 is somehow forgiving to take off vertically and then fly straight with rotating engines. I was being locked by SAMs while being jumped by MiG-21s, that's when I dove toward ground and turned hard to the left to break from missiles. While MiG-21s were diving toward me at nearly mach one, I slammed on air brake and pulled hard to force MiG-21s to overshoot. That was when I turned toward MiG-21s and fired Sidewinders. I got forced into dogfight with next MiG-21s. Knowing that F3L-2s is not good at close range dogfighting but the MiG-21 was front of me. It was very deadly gambits because if MiG-21 were wise pilot, pilot would have taken advantage of their agile to out turn my F3L-2s. Fortunately I managed to shoot down MiG-21 right before pilot would had the chance to change the situations in dogfight. That is an excellent ideas! I haven't thought of that and I will rename EF-109s into F-109Gs. And about US Navy aircraft name, that makes sense. I will rename F3L-1 to F/A-109A for USN and F/A-109B for USMC. Since they are multi-role, it makes sense to use F/A-109 and we will be able to tell which F-109s are for USAF, USN, and USMC. What do you think about the new names for F3Ls to F/A-109s? However, about the service years ending in 1990s, I agree with you due to several reasons: 1) As you stated, aircraft structure start to wear down from 1970s. 2) F-109s and F/A-109s become completely obsolete during 1990s. 3) There are alternative aircraft that can do better job than F-109s / F/A-109s, especially with JSF programs during 21th century. What do everyone think about this?

I am happy that you liked the idea. I am looking forward to release the beta version of D-188 Projects for SF2 when it is ready.

Hello everyone, I announcing the project I have been working on with the help from the combatace community (Thank you Wrench and Blackbird for working with me on this projects! ). It have been many years since I have done any modding. The project is called D-188 Projects, which is an expansion of Veltro2k XF-109 mod. It is my goal to give D-188 projects having opportunities to be alive in SF2 for everyone to fly 'what if' aircraft. The projects is still work in progress and I would like for feedback from community about the projects I am working on. The reason why I am working on this project is because of my love for 'what if' aircraft. And at the same time, I intend to keep all 'what if' aspect of D-188 realistic as possible. Everything I typed about "What if" aspect of F-109s and F3Ls are developed with theories. And that is why I need feedback, in order, to keep improving the projects. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bell D-188 Projects The following aircraft is included in the projects: 1) XF-109 (Based on D-188 project which is historically designed for US Air force) 2) XF3L (Based on D-188A project which is historically designed for US Navy) 3) F-109s variants - Fictional "What if" USAF decided to accept XF-109 for military production. 4) F3L-1 variants - Fictional "What if" USN decided to accept XF3L for military production. 5) F3L-2 variants - Fictional "What if" it entered project for USMC. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Information Here are the information about configuration I have worked on for D-188 Projects: 1) Configuration/Upgrades for XF-109 / F-109s (USAF): a. XF-109 (1961) i. Prototype version - Powered by J85-GE-5 ii. Role: Interceptor b. F-109A (1964) i. Role: Interceptor ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-5A c. F-109A (1969) i. Role: Interceptor ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-13 iii. Counter measure equipment implemented 1. Chaff / Flare d. F-109A (1975) i. Role: Interceptor ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-21 iii. Upgraded with more advanced avionics in cockpit iv. Capable of carrying more advanced air to air missiles v. Upgraded counter measure 1. Increased numbers of chaff / flare e. F-109B (1969) i. Role: Fighter and bomber ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-13 iii. More capable of delivering air to ground various ordinances iv. Counter measure equipment implemented 1. Chaff / Flare f. F-109B (1973) i. Role: Fighter - Bomber ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-21 iii. Upgraded with capable of carrying laser guided ordinances iv. Upgraded counter measure 1. Increased numbers of chaff / flare g. F-109B (1976) i. Role: Fighter - Bomber ii. Upgraded with more advanced avionics in cockpit iii. Capable of carrying more advanced air to air / air to ground ordinances iv. Upgraded counter measure 1. Increased numbers of chaff / flare h. F-109C (1980) i. Role: Multi-Role ii. Upgraded with more advanced avionics and cockpit i. EF-109A (1984) i. Role: SEAD “Wild Weasel” ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-13 iii. Counter measure equipment implemented 1. Embedded ECM 2. Chaff / Flare iv. Capable of delivering various air to ground ordinances, especially for role of SEAD. j. EF-109B (1976) i. Role: SEAD “Wild Weasel” ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-21 iii. Upgraded with more advanced avionics in cockpit iv. Capable of carrying more advanced air to ground ordinances 2) Configuration/Upgrades for XF3L / F3L-1s (USN): a. XF3L (1963) i. Prototype version - Powered by J85-GE-5 ii. Role: Multi-Role b. F3L-1A (1969) i. Role: Multi-Role ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-13 iii. More capable of delivering air to air / air to ground various ordinances iv. Counter measure equipment implemented 1. Chaff / Flare c. F3L-1A (1973) i. Role: Multi-Role ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-21 iii. Upgraded with capable of carrying laser guided ordinances iv. Upgraded counter measure 1. Increased numbers of chaff / flare d. F3L-1A (1977) i. Role: Multi-Role ii. Upgraded with more advanced avionics in cockpit iii. Capable of carrying more advanced air to air / air to ground ordinances iv. Upgraded counter measure 1. Increased numbers of chaff / flare 3) Configuration/Upgrades for F3L-2s (USMC): a. F3L-2A (1972) i. Role: Multi-Role ii. Upgraded engine to J85-GE-21 iii. Capable of delivering air to air / air to ground various ordinances iv. Counter measure equipment implemented 1. Chaff / Flare b. F3L-2A (1976) i. Role: Multi-Role ii. Upgraded with more advanced avionics in cockpit iii. Upgraded with capable of carrying laser guided ordinances iv. Upgraded counter measure 1. Increased numbers of chaff / flare c. F3L-2B (1984) i. Role: Multi-Role ii. Upgraded with more advanced avionics and cockpit iii. Capable of carrying more advanced air to air / air to ground ordinances iv. Upgraded counter measure 1. Increased numbers of chaff / flare --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Flight model I am not expert with the flight mode. If anyone can help with flight model, the helps are always welcomed for D-188 (F-109s/F3Ls) projects! I did the basic flight model tweaking, in order, to make F-109s/F3L feel more realistic when flying them in SF2, theoretically. The flight model is originally created by Veltro2K and updated by Wrench. Here are following features I tweaked in flight model: 1) Slow roll rate = With two engines being mounted on each tip of wings, it means lot of weights. And at the same time, with small wings from D-188s aircraft like F-104, in my opinion, it means slower roll rate. However, as I stated, I am not an expert with flight model and any helps with flight model overhaul is always welcomed. 2) Fixed sensitive rudder = The rudder was very sensitive so I reduced it lot, in order, for D-188s to have small movement when using rudder. 3) There are two different versions of Bell D-188 (F-109s and F3Ls): a. STOL version – All of aircraft have all 6 jet engines operation, especially when you are in STOL mode. Because all engines from rotating engines and main fuselage engines are running at the same time, it is impossible to performance VTOL mode. b. V/STOL version – All of aircraft only have rotating engine operation. I divided the thrusts from main fuselage engines and added them to rotating engines, to make up for main fuselage engines not having any thrusts. (See “Flight model” for more information about flight model for VSTOL version) This enable you to be able to performance V/STOL and VTOL mode. However, I removed afterburner effects from main fuselage engines (except for exhaust smokes). It does not look right if you are in VTOL mode with afterburner running from fuselage. But you still can re-enable afterburner for main fuselage engines with few steps (It is included in README.) 4) Engines overhaul = I have done lot of works on each engine powers for each aircraft. This is the math I used to convert lb of thrust to Netwon: Note: XXX is any given numbers. XXX lb (thrust) = XXX lb x 4.45 = XXX (thrust) Newton And keep in mind that STOL / VSTOL version of each aircraft engine have different thrusts. STOL have accuracy thrusts in newton for each six engine while VSTOL have increased thrusts for four engines. Here are example: XF-109 (STOL version) Engine #1: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) Engine #2: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) Engine #3: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) Engine #4: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) Engine #5: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) Engine #6: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) XF-109 (V/STOL version) Note: Because Engine #5 / #6 which is main fuselage engine having no thrusts, I divided them and moved to engine #1 to engine #2. Engine #5 + engine #6 = Total engine thrust divided by four, then add them to each engine. Engine #5: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) Engine #6: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) Total Engine thrust: 4,800 LB (DRY) 7,200 (AB) / 4 = 1,200 LB (DRY) 1,800 (AB) Engine #1: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) + 1,200 LB (DRY) 1,800 (AB) Engine #2: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) + 1,200 LB (DRY) 1,800 (AB) Engine #3: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) + 1,200 LB (DRY) 1,800 (AB) Engine #4: 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) + 1,200 LB (DRY) 1,800 (AB) Result: Note: Engine #1 to #4 is rotating engines while Engine #5 to #6 is main fuselage engines. Engine #1: 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,400 LB (AB) Engine #2: 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,400 LB (AB) Engine #3: 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,400 LB (AB) Engine #4: 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,400 LB (AB) Engine #5: 0 LB (DRY) 0 LB (AB) Engine #6: 0 LB (DRY) 0 LB (AB) Note: Engine #5 and #6 still use fuels even when there is no thrusts, in order, to simulate all 6 of engines using fuels. Here is the date about engines that each aircraft uses: Aircraft (Service Date) Engine Thrust in LB (Dry / AB - Afterburner) XF-109 (1961 - 1969) J85-GE-5 2,400 LB (DRY) 3,600 LB (AB) F-109A (1964 - 1975) J85-GE-5A 2,450 LB (DRY) 3,850 LB (AB) F-109A (1969 - 1978) J85-GE-13 2,720 LB (DRY) 4,080 LB (AB) F-109A (1975 - 1986) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F-109B (1969 - 1979) J85-GE-13 2,720 LB (DRY) 4,080 LB (AB) F-109B (1973 - 1984) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F-109B (1976 - 1990) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F-109C (1980 - 2000) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) EF-109A (1971 - 1984) J85-GE-13 2,720 LB (DRY) 4,080 LB (AB) EF-109B (1976 - 1996) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) --------------------------------------------------------------------- XF3L (1963 - 1970) J85-GE-5A 2,450 LB (DRY) 3,850 LB (AB) F3L-1A (1969 - 1980) J85-GE-13 2,720 LB (DRY) 4,080 LB (AB) F3L-1A (1973 - 1986) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F3L-1A (1977 - 1996) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) --------------------------------------------------------------------- F3L-2A (1972 - 1982) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F3L-2A (1976 - 1990) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) F3L-2B (1984 - 2014) J85-GE-21 3,600 LB (DRY) 5,000 LB (AB) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Textures For now, D-188 (F-109s/F3Ls) projects do not have any additional skins for each aircraft, so if anyone have plans to create skins for D-188 project, please let me know. Any more skins for F-109s / F3Ls are always welcomed. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Custom missions I am thinking about making custom missions for D-188 projects. I am not promising anything here but I would like to see missions where F-109s/F3Ls would take advantage of V/STOL capabilities. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Screenshots I currently have few screenshots and I will add more of them as I continually test D-188 projects in SF2. F-109A (late 1970s version) F3L-1 on aircraft carrier F-109s and F3Ls late 1970s cockpit upgrades with HUD

logan4 and Snailman, Thank you for the information. And Wrench, I sent you PM.