FastCargo 412 Posted July 10, 2007 Hey guys, for you US Navy fans, I got a question. Looking at various sources, it seems there are very few external differences between the A and C model of the Hornet, except for a few new fairings (bumps) and some new antenna. I know internally there was an upgrade in avionics, allowing carriage of newer missiles, targeting pods, and AG weapons, plus an upgraded cockpit. Can anyone give me the differences in thumbnail? Basically, I've been flying around in SFP1/WOV/WOE, building a 'C' model by mostly just adjusting the data.ini to change loadout capabilities. Maybe another way to ask...what can one model do the other model could not do. FastCargo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HrntFixr 4 Posted July 11, 2007 As far as cockpit's go, the fuel quanity indications were completely changed. Later model "C" 's had night vision cockpits (lot 14 and above. Data recorders were upgraded along with GPS, etc etc. Outside not much besides the "humps and bumps" was changed. Internal, avionics bays changed some. "C" models even had different antenna setups depending on the "lot #" it is. Weps wise...... i only worked on and taught "C" and above, so your loadouts depend on what time frame your flying in I'd say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted July 11, 2007 I think it amusing that the F/A-18A and C were closer together than an F-16C Blk 30 and Blk 50. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Saganuay82 Posted July 11, 2007 I have been hoping that the MF would release the D model as a B. I have seen the D model in a screenshot once. That way I can have it for my CANFORCE install. The D uses the ground radar which is holding it up for the patch but it doesn't matter for the B. The C was modded here and released but due to the wrong procedure and not asking for permissions, it got hauled off again. Perhaps you could upload your C mod if everything is done right ? :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Typhoid 231 Posted July 11, 2007 I have been hoping that the MF would release the D model as a B. I have seen the D model in a screenshot once. That way I can have it for my CANFORCE install. The D uses the ground radar which is holding it up for the patch but it doesn't matter for the B. The C was modded here and released but due to the wrong procedure and not asking for permissions, it got hauled off again. Perhaps you could upload your C mod if everything is done right ? :) I've got a C model block 36 (with the new engines installed in 91) but have held off uploading it at the request of some of the MF guys who have been working on a C and a D (both of which look really great!) I haven't seen any new movement on that front for awhile. I've been using my C and the MF WIP D in a Libya campaign modded to the 92 time frame. Works great. I got a sheet of info from my VFA son on the changes to the F18 blocks. They generally referred to the F18s as blocks rather than A or C models because, as noted above, the real differences were all in the installed equipment and new weapons and avionics upgrades. The E and F, of course, are a different issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Saganuay82 Posted July 11, 2007 So you have the MF D? Can you tell me if the skins from the A fit the D? Or will the D need new skins instead of modifying the current ones? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toryu 156 Posted July 11, 2007 Just a short sidekick-question: What does a "lot" number indicate? Is it similar to the "Blocks" on F-16s or is it a whole new thing? Also, you guys talked about Blocks on the F-18. Is there any source where I could read and collect unclassified data about that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+SidDogg 130 Posted July 11, 2007 Just a short sidekick-question: What does a "lot" number indicate? Is it similar to the "Blocks" on F-16s or is it a whole new thing? Also, you guys talked about Blocks on the F-18. Is there any source where I could read and collect unclassified data about that? LOTs on F/A-18s are the same as Blocks on Air Force aircraft. The only difference is that when you number LOTs, you use Roman Numerals..... i.e., LOT X, LOT XIX, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Typhoid 231 Posted July 11, 2007 So you have the MF D? Can you tell me if the skins from the A fit the D? Or will the D need new skins instead of modifying the current ones? I don't know. I can try one on for size and get back to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Saganuay82 Posted July 11, 2007 That would be great so I know whenever it gets released if I have to redo the CF188 skins to fit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Typhoid 231 Posted July 13, 2007 That would be great so I know whenever it gets released if I have to redo the CF188 skins to fit. I didn't test the CF188 skin, but I did install the Marine skin from the released F-18A into the wip F-18D and finished a modified Libya campaign last night. Worked fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HrntFixr 4 Posted July 14, 2007 not trying to hijack the thread..... hey typhoid... what ship is that pic from in your profile? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.Forsythe 0 Posted July 30, 2007 They should have the super hornet but anyway the F/A-18c has more advansed electronics and targiting systyms if you have any more Qustions lick this you should go to FAS.com (don't put this in the address bar yahoo or google it) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+snapper 21 803 Posted September 10, 2008 Hi FastCargo Did you ever put FLIR pods on your Hornet C? If you did could you post your weapons and data files? Cheers Snapper 21 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverbolt 104 Posted September 10, 2008 (edited) Hi FastCargo Did you ever put FLIR pods on your Hornet C? If you did could you post your weapons and data files? Cheers Snapper 21 the F-18A already have it... // Weapon Stations --------------------------------------------------------- [LeftSparrowStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=14 StationGroupID=4 StationType=SEMI_RECESSED AttachmentPosition=-1.3,-2.418,-0.95 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-0.5,0.0 MissileRollAngle=45.0 EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0 LoadLimit=500 DiameterLimit=0.4 AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,EP,AHM,LP AttachmentType=NATO,USN,ISRAEL MinExtentPosition= MaxExtentPosition= [RightSparrowStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=15 StationGroupID=5 StationType=SEMI_RECESSED AttachmentPosition=1.3,-2.418,-0.95 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-0.5,0.0 MissileRollAngle=45.0 EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0 LoadLimit=500 DiameterLimit=0.4 AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,EP,AHM,DLP <-BTW, what is it? DLP, i've never seen it before AttachmentType=NATO,USN MinExtentPosition= MaxExtentPosition= Edited September 10, 2008 by Silverbolt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bwild 5 Posted September 10, 2008 the F-18A already have it... DLP is a data link pod. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverbolt 104 Posted September 10, 2008 DLP is a data link pod. does it real works in game? i've never saw or used that... if it works in game how can i use? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bwild 5 Posted September 10, 2008 does it real works in game?i've never saw or used that... if it works in game how can i use? Don't think it is, but I'm not sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+snapper 21 803 Posted September 10, 2008 Thanks Silverbolt was under the impression they went on special pylons. Cheers Snapper 21 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+ST0RM 145 Posted September 19, 2008 Externally, the main difference are in the number of lumps/bumps that are on the vertical tail. The A-model only had two, while the C had three. A-model tail: C-model tail: The bumps on the back of the spine were added to all Legacy Hornets: Jeff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Klavs81 4 Posted September 19, 2008 My old book on the Hornet asserts that the easiest way to tell an A from a C aside from the new bumps are the vortex generators on the LEX (curiously present on the Mirage Factory A model) and some strengthening brackets on the tail: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bwild 5 Posted September 19, 2008 My old book on the Hornet asserts that the easiest way to tell an A from a C aside from the new bumps are the vortex generators on the LEX (curiously present on the Mirage Factory A model) and some strengthening brackets on the tail: IIRC those vortex generators were retrofitted on the A models. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
column5 63 Posted September 20, 2008 IIRC those vortex generators were retrofitted on the A models. Yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
