BUFF 8 Posted December 24, 2007 http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2007/...-3c-orions.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparkomatic 7 Posted December 24, 2007 that is what happens after Clinton reduced the fleet so much and then Bush sends the remnants to secure the far corners of the world, without building new plans think if Roosevelt had tried to fight the Japanese without spooling up production Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HrntFixr 4 Posted December 25, 2007 I work on a P-3 mod team and they are already looking to get the repairs done. Job security... old birds with no replacement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted December 26, 2007 No no, the P-8 is coming. That will be great, really. Where's the sarcasm smiley? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mladuna 0 Posted December 26, 2007 the P-8 is coming. Don't you just love commercial airliners in military service whit wing pylons Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viggen 644 Posted December 26, 2007 Don't you just love commercial airliners in military service whit wing pylons Well the P-3 was really based off the Electra. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mladuna 0 Posted December 26, 2007 (edited) Well the P-3 was really based off the Electra. True, true, just like the RAF Nimrod is based on the ill-fated de Havilland Comet, but for me P-8 based on 737-800 doesn't look as the best aircraft to fly low and slow to search for subs (I would probably go for another turboprop). But I wont argue on that, guys in the USN probably know their yob. Edit: Ops! I just read some more on P-8, and changed my mind. Its not a bad choice in conjunction whit maritime patrol UAV's since the P-8 is not just a ASW patrol aircraft but, a Multimission Maritime Aircraft (MMA). Edited December 26, 2007 by Mladuna Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted December 27, 2007 I still can't believe it can have the endurance at low level a P-3 does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparkomatic 7 Posted December 29, 2007 commercial airlines have long been shoe-horned into military service...look at the 707 family and the DC-10 as well...wait, has anyone actually used a shoe-horn? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Hinchinbrooke 36 Posted December 29, 2007 (edited) Join the club! The UK had to make do with the Shackleton for several decades (note similarity to the Lancaster bomber). Edited December 29, 2007 by Hinchinbrooke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
super61 0 Posted December 29, 2007 Anyone rule out in getting the S-3 Viking to pick up the slack? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viggen 644 Posted December 29, 2007 Anyone rule out in getting the S-3 Viking to pick up the slack? Doesn't have loiter capability or payload. And they are tired Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparkomatic 7 Posted December 29, 2007 re-tired...most of the S-3 fleet is out as far as I have read Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUFF 8 Posted December 29, 2007 commercial airlines have long been shoe-horned into military service...look at the 707 family the 707 came out of a military programme rather than the other way around Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparkomatic 7 Posted December 30, 2007 really? first I heard of that...wait...Boeing.com...history... After the Air Force agreed to let Boeing build commercial jets based on the prototype, 367-80, already the basis for the KC-135 military tanker - damn...I actually learned something...guess I owe you a beer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rambler 1-1 9 Posted January 1, 2008 funny... Canada hasn't had any (known) problems with fatigue on our CP-140s (Canadian P-3s), but they haven't been around for as quite long as the Orions. The basic Lockheed Electra design was always a bit of a basket-case... It's pretty much a Convair with extra engines. My Dad worked on them both, and said that even though the Electra was faster and had a good long range, it demanded a lot more maintinence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted January 2, 2008 FYI the -80 is at the Udvar-Hazy museum at Dulles outside D.C. It's amazing how small it is! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparkomatic 7 Posted January 3, 2008 its amazing that we still use it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted January 4, 2008 Well, the 135s and the E-3/6/8, yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparkomatic 7 Posted January 5, 2008 dont forget the RC-135 family Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dave 2,322 Posted January 5, 2008 The JStars, we bought airliners from companies and converted them over. Airliners.net has alot of pic of JStars in a before and after type pics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted January 7, 2008 I used to work for NorthGrum at the site where the JSTARS stuff was installed. They had an old E-8A outside that was being cannibalized for the E-8C they were putting together. They flew them in "green". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparkomatic 7 Posted January 9, 2008 is the former cattle hauler story true? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted January 9, 2008 Well I never saw any cows. Plus, I never saw the insides, that wasn't my area. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparkomatic 7 Posted January 11, 2008 thought so...yeck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
