BUFF 8 Posted February 20, 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 The Air Force's grounded Skyhawk fleet is suffering yet another indignity. The planes have been stored outside the Woodbourne Air Base for the last two months and were carefully sheathed in white latex to preserve them from the elements - but now, the latex is already failing. Act MP Heather Roy says: "Just two months after the jets were wheeled outside to sit in the weather with what we were told was a robust latex covering, they're now ripped, peeling and weathering quite seriously." The double layer coating cost amost $100,000 - the Defence Force has confirmed to 3 News that the outer layer is bubbling due to water damage and has torn on at least three of the aircraft. Defence Minister Phil Goff says the white coating protects the exterior and expensive cockpit controls from the sun, but they have an undercoat as well. "I'm advised by the Defence Force that the protection is not only adequate but better than what the planes had before," Goff says. The Labour Government scrapped the combat wing in 2002 and has been trying to sell the aircraft since. They have a $50 million offer but the US State Department will not give it the rubber stamp. Roy claims some of the former jets have only a third of the latex they should, saying: "Here they are having to pay $94,000 out of their operational funding, that should be spent on core business, not on decommissioned stock that the government can't sell." The Air Force says the contractor that coated the planes does not know what has caused the latest hiccup - they say the latex is still under warranty, so the Skyhawks will get another coat. But this is yet another embarrassing problem for the expensive jets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Crusader 2,101 Posted February 20, 2008 Its probably much cheaper when they simply put the kites back into the air.. LOL :ph34r: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rambler 1-1 9 Posted February 22, 2008 skyhawks for sale? how much? with that latex coating, I'll bet that if they are bought or re-comissioned, they'll be called the Trojans! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
triplethr3at 0 Posted February 22, 2008 Looks like trojan man has a new steed. or should I say scooter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayethWhaaaa 245 Posted February 22, 2008 These are the Kiwi Scooters, yeah? I'm guessing Woodbourne, Phil Goff and the stonewalling they're getting from the US. I can understand that though. Those are the pimped out A-4K Kahus. Those things are badass! They're comperable to Blk30/40 F-16s! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted February 22, 2008 Gotta love the "we don't need fighters" mentality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viggen 644 Posted February 22, 2008 Isn't there only combat aircraft the P-3? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayethWhaaaa 245 Posted February 22, 2008 Isn't there only combat aircraft the P-3? There was something in Aviation Australia about them reactivating some Macchi MB-339s for conversion training. They used to have the ability to carry stores (they filled the LIFT/CAS/Ground attack role) and as far as I know, they haven't had the capacity removed, so technically... they could be considered to be combat aircraft. But the Kiwis are pretty steadfast about not maintaining a combat arm of the RNZAF. And strictly speaking, their P-3s aren't combat capable. They're used in the maritime surveillance role, not ASW or any offensive roles as such. AFAIK. It's kinda ironic about the scooters though. We got rid of them because the government/RAN didn't want to retain an offensive fixed wing capabilty (Great move guys, no really! :fuk: ), so we flogged them off to the Kiwis to supplant their scooters. Then in the mid to late 80 they kept a sqn here to train with the RAAF and RAN and then in the 90s our AF and Navy relied on the A-4Ks (some of which were originally RAN A-4Gs) heavily for dissimilar air combat training... Not bad for an obsolete jet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viggen 644 Posted February 22, 2008 Wow Switzerland has a bigger airforce then them. Guess they need it though for protecting all that gold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted February 22, 2008 Switzerland has fiercely defended its neutrality for ages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk MMS 0 Posted February 22, 2008 Swiss Neutrality and defense there of... Nazi Germany repeatedly violated Swiss airspace. During the Invasion of France, German aircraft violated Swiss airspace no fewer than 197 times. In several air incidents, the Swiss (using 10 Bf-109 D, 80 Bf-109 E fighters bought from Germany and some Morane-Saulnier M.S.406s built under license in Switzerland), shot down 11 Luftwaffe planes between 10 May 1940 and 17 June 1940. Germany protested diplomatically on 5 June 1940, and with a second note on 19 June 1940 which contained clear threats. Hitler was especially furious when he saw that German equipment was shooting down German pilots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites