MigBuster 2,884 Posted February 27, 2008 Check it - should run in Windows Media player http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_72...s=1&bbcws=1 From here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/video_and_audio/default.stm (Inside Russian Bomber Base) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atreides 144 Posted February 27, 2008 Thanks. That Blackjack taking off looked real nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nesher 628 Posted February 27, 2008 nice vid...! btw, the BlackJack is kinda like a replica of the B-1B? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Typhoid 231 Posted February 27, 2008 nice vid...!btw, the BlackJack is kinda like a replica of the B-1B? its about a 1/3 bigger, goes about a 1/3 farther, and can dash twice as fast. bomb load is about the same except the Blackjack will carry a slew of AS-15's and their new conventional version. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nesher 628 Posted February 28, 2008 (edited) Typhoid.. it's not the size that matters :P Edited February 28, 2008 by Nesher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted February 28, 2008 I don't think I'd classify the 160 as "1/3 larger" than a B-1B. It may be 1/3 heavier, or carry 1/3 larger payload or something, but the dimensions don't add up to that. Maybe 15-20% larger max... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+SidDogg 130 Posted February 28, 2008 "Russia has put its bombers back in the sky..." ---BBC News oh that's great and just at the time they decide to trash the F-14..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Typhoid 231 Posted February 28, 2008 I don't think I'd classify the 160 as "1/3 larger" than a B-1B. It may be 1/3 heavier, or carry 1/3 larger payload or something, but the dimensions don't add up to that. Maybe 15-20% larger max... i was speaking in very broad, general terms. No argument. Did you compute those figures as internal volume/weight? I don't actually have those numbers available at my fingertips, just curious. The point was that it is a larger, heavier aircraft with longer range and a much higher dash speed that carries a large cruise missile load. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted February 28, 2008 Yeah, it's more designed to the spec the B-1A was then the B-1B we put into service, but I'm sure its RCS is closer to a B-52 than a B-1B! As for numbers, I had a book or something that talked about it and actually had two line diagrams superimposed so you could see the relative sizes (wings swept back), that's where I got the size comparison from. Let's see what numbers I can find: B-1B: L: 146ft (44.5m) H: 34 ft (10.4m) W: 137 ft out, 79 ft swept (41.8, 24.1) Empty weight: 190k lbs (86k kg) MTOW: 477k lbs (215k kg) power: 4x 30k thrust GE (13.5k kg) range: 7500 miles unrefueled, 3500 with normal payload (12k km, 5600km) Tu-160: L: 54.1m H: 13.1m W: 55.7m out, 35.6m swept Empty weight: 110k kg MTOW: 275k kg power 4x 25k kg thrust HK-32 range: ~12k km So, from these rough numbers the 160 is just over 20% longer, 33% larger wingspan unswept, 48% larger swept, 25% taller, 28% heavier, and similar range without refueling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
