ChrisBV Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) Greetings everyone! I'm making a Falklands War-era pilot pack for both Argentine and British forces. They are basically re-skins of AmokFloo's outstanding modern pilot models, which I chose because they are simply great and work just fine for what I'm going to do. Even helmet types match closely the real ones for pilots on both sides I'm using this image as a basic reference as well as the few pictures I could find: Here's a WIP on the British Royal Navy Sea Harrier driver. Basic anti-G suit is done (with the exception of some minor details that still require further tweaking), as well as details on the oxygen mask, visor and such. Since both British and Argentine pilots had Western-type anti-G equipment, all I need to do is make a basic flight suit, anti-G trousers and survival vest and change colours accordingly. Very simple but will make pilots look like individuals: Adding shoulder squadron badges is proving difficult as I'm still trying to figure out how the model is mapped, but will get that sorted out sooner or later, don't worry: The original skin colour was a bit "pale", so I used a real RAF pilot photo for adjusting the colour skin tone (you can't say this isn't as real as it gets, can you? :yes: ): The goal is to have every pilot for each of the individual squadrons on both sides skinned, so you can have Sea Harriers, Daggers, Skyhawks, Super Etèndards and so on with individual custom pilots. Edited December 3, 2008 by ChrisBV Quote
crl848 Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) Great effort! This may be seen as super-nitpicking, but the oxygen mask on the pilot looks to me like a modern US MBU 20/p combat-edge type, and the correct UK pilot from 1982 would have worn a P or Q-type UK mask. Both have hoses to the left side of the mask, so the MBU 20/p is a fairly good match from a distance, but looks wrong close-up. See: http://www.gentexcorp.com/default.aspx?pageid=227 and http://www.flightgear.dk/rafhelmets.htm Sorry, I'm a flight gear buff Edited December 3, 2008 by crl848 Quote
+X RAY Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 For the British pilot,you can add the DanteJt great one included on Marcfighters Mil Mi-8!!!!It depicts really a brit pilot with Alpha helmet!And it will be the future standard JetThunder pilot on Sea Harriers! Quote
ChrisBV Posted December 4, 2008 Author Posted December 4, 2008 Sorry, I'm a flight gear buff Don't apologise. I thank your for your input :yes: X RAY, I tried using Dante's pilot but... I don't know, it just didn't work for me. I hope you don't mind but I chose to stick with AmokFloo's pilot models. I know the British pilot is not 100% accurate but I think it falls within a reasonable margin, so I'm using it. Besides, I have already finished it and it doesn't look too bad, does it? Here's a minor update on some of the Argentine pilots (for the M5 Dagger, in this case): Still lot of work needed on this one but it's a start Quote
crl848 Posted December 4, 2008 Posted December 4, 2008 I know the British pilot is not 100% accurate but I think it falls within a reasonable margin, so I'm using it. Besides, I have already finished it and it doesn't look too bad, does it? It looks great, go for it. Quote
+X RAY Posted December 4, 2008 Posted December 4, 2008 Don't apologise. I thank your for your input :yes: X RAY, I tried using Dante's pilot but... I don't know, it just didn't work for me. I hope you don't mind but I chose to stick with AmokFloo's pilot models. I know the British pilot is not 100% accurate but I think it falls within a reasonable margin, so I'm using it. Besides, I have already finished it and it doesn't look too bad, does it? Here's a minor update on some of the Argentine pilots (for the M5 Dagger, in this case): Still lot of work needed on this one but it's a start was only an imput!your works looks great! Quote
Silverbolt Posted December 4, 2008 Posted December 4, 2008 Wow! man those are awesome! any ETA? Quote
ChrisBV Posted December 4, 2008 Author Posted December 4, 2008 was only an imput! Yeah, I know, thank you! your works looks great! Thanks! any ETA? Soon... I hope A week, perhaps? Quote
Silverbolt Posted December 4, 2008 Posted December 4, 2008 Yeah, I know, thank you! Thanks! Soon... I hope A week, perhaps? Thanks! Please, don't ever put the number "2" and the word "week" in same sentence Quote
ChrisBV Posted December 6, 2008 Author Posted December 6, 2008 Please, don't ever put the number "2" and the word "week" in same sentence I wouldn't dare I took a little time off from the pilot works to do some weapon skins. I got the new weapons pack by the SF/WO* community and I must say IT'S AWESOME!!!! I got a few weapons from it for the Falklands theatre (for the British forces) and did some skinning work on them: AIM-9L (Lima): ooopssss... AIM-9G (Golf): GBU-123/B (1000 pound Brit Paveway II LGB): I also think I finally got the double 'winder launcher thing properly sorted out: The skins are based upon original artwork by JanHas (a fellow Falcon 4.0 simmer and modder some of you may know; he's the true artist, not me), so I need to ask him for permission to release them. Anyway, back to the pilots, it is. Expected release date: within a week (and a few days, give or take... maybe 2, maybe 7, maybe 30, who knows ). Quote
Silverbolt Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 nothing bad! damn, i can't wait! this lima is the R-13M make by krizis(model)? Quote
Bravo2009 Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 Holy BEJEEBUS Chris, those are beautiful!!!! Quote
scouserlad13 Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 ooopssss... hahaha you should put this one up in the screenshot thread, its an amazing shot Quote
ChrisBV Posted December 8, 2008 Author Posted December 8, 2008 Thanks everyone for your feedback and comments! I made two extra weapons for the Argentine forces this time, the R550 Magic I air-to-air missile: ... and the deadly AM39 Exocet air-to-surface missile: I shall be uploading the weapons in the next couple of days while I finish working on the pilots. Quote
ChrisBV Posted December 10, 2008 Author Posted December 10, 2008 It seems I owe X-RAY an apology :yes: Dante-TJ's pilot is absolutely PERFECT, I just couldn't find out how it was mapped - and discarded it because of that - but after trying for a few hours, this is what I came up with: I see the oxygen mask is mapped but not active in the LOD, is it still there as a disabled part of the LOD or is it missing altogether? I'd love to see this model with the mask on X-RAY, I hope you accept a fool's apology for having doubted. Quote
+X RAY Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 It seems I owe X-RAY an apology :yes: Dante-TJ's pilot is absolutely PERFECT, I just couldn't find out how it was mapped - and discarded it because of that - but after trying for a few hours, this is what I came up with: I see the oxygen mask is mapped but not active in the LOD, is it still there as a disabled part of the LOD or is it missing altogether? I'd love to see this model with the mask on X-RAY, I hope you accept a fool's apology for having doubted. Apologies?Why? Don't worry Chris it was just to earn you precious time! The Dante jt pilot,try to see Jet Thunder section,is made for the new game,he released for Marcelo Hip this version without oxy mask,it is a good base for Raf,British Army and RN helo pilots too! the new game version will came,seen screenies with mask on and vizor lowered! I'm waiting a good Brit pilot too! In all my game's english planes I've selected Dante Jt's and Craigbierley's typhoon pilot (another good choice)-optimum for swedish fighters too FFV helmet looks closer to Alphas! Your new weps skins are a piece of art,go for it!!!!! Good work Chris! Quote
+torno Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 exelente Chris! they watch Argentine parachute (with the rubber boat) Quote
Stratos Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 Torno este mod tenes que compartirlo!! Torno you must share this mod!! Quote
+torno Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 (edited) Torno este mod tenes que compartirlo!! Torno you must share this mod!! patience that in that I am working if it watches the contours well estan half thicknesses and I must learn to use the tool of the threshold of fothoshop this the origuinal model JPEG and tga if some wants to modify the origuinal so that it is cut better has my permission Edited December 11, 2008 by torno Quote
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