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Posted (edited)

They are prolific - they are EVERY damn where and I have NEVER been shot at by one - never once have I ever seen a frikkin SA-7 fire since I bought this fine sim.

 

I have one in my ground objects - think it came from Paskos SAM & ground object pack. I am running the patch before the Oct 08 SFP1 patch

 

All they do is kneel - pivot - and watch with that stoopidazz look on their frikkin commie faces.

 

Perplexed.

 

Yep - I searched. Found nothing.

 

If anyone can give me a heading to follow I would appreciate it. Off to get a scotch & soda.

 

Thanks !

 

Cheers ! :dntknw:

 

Misty

Edited by Misty FAC
Posted

Make sure in the SA7_DATA.ini that it says ShowMissile=TRUE

and you need to adjust the missile entry in the weaponsdata.ini file to get them to shoot.

Posted

Gepard posted some stats for the FIM-92A (which it uses) and I used FC's stinger, and still not getting fired at. Conversely the Stingers don't fire either, has to be some settings that need to be really tweaked.. And I forgot where he posted them :sad:

Posted (edited)

The values from my Afghanistan terrain follow below. I got some Strelas in the tail when flying with the Mi-24 along the Jalalabad road.

 

[WeaponData124]
TypeName=SA-7
FullName=SA-7 Grail
ModelName=Stinger
Mass=9.900000
Diameter=0.600000
Length=1.470000
SubsonicDragCoeff=0.120000
SupersonicDragCoeff=0.222000
AttachmentType=
SpecificStationCode=
NationName=Afghanistan
StartYear=1980
EndYear=2000
Availability=3
BaseQuantity=24
Exported=FALSE
ExportStartYear=0
ExportEndYear=0
ExportAvailability=0
WeaponDataType=1
RailLaunched=TRUE
RocketPod=FALSE
Retarded=FALSE
FinStabilized=TRUE
SpinStabilized=TRUE
HasGrowl=TRUE
EffectClassName=SmallMissileEffects
ReleaseDelay=0.000000
WarheadType=0
Explosives=0.370000
FusingDistance=1.000000
ClusterBomblets=0
ClusterDispersion=0.000000
GuidanceType=10
Accuracy=60
MaxTurnRate=8.000000
MaxLaunchG=3.000000
LockonChance=60
LaunchReliability=85
ArmingTime=1.500000
SeekerFOV=50.500000
SeekerGimbleLimit=25.000000
SeekerTrackRate=11.000000
SeekerRange=4800.000000
MinLaunchRange=0.000000
MaxLaunchRange=3500.000000
Duration=20.000000
CounterCountermeasure=10.000000
NoiseRejection=10.000000
CapabilityFlags=0x10000210
LoftAngle=0.000000
DescentAngle=0.000000
MaxLoftAltitude=0.000000
CLmax=14.000000
MinFreq=0.000000
MaxFreq=0.000000
BoosterStart=0.000000
BoosterDuration=2.000000
BoosterAccel=29.590000
BoosterEffectName=MissileFireEffect
BoosterSoundName=Missile
BoosterNodeName=
BoosterPosition=0.000000,-0.750000,0.000000
SustainerDuration=15.000000
SustainerAccel=10.000000
SustainerEffectName=
SustainerSoundName=
SustainerPosition=0.000000,-0.750000,0.000000
InFlightEffectName=MissileInFlightEffect
InFlightSoundName=
ReleaseAnimationID=-1
EODisplayFlags=0
CEP=0.000000



SA-7L_data.ini

[MissionData]
NationName=Afghanistan
ServiceStartYear=1981
ServiceEndYear=2000
GroundObjectRole=Static_SAM
Availability=COMMON
Exported=False

[GroundObjectData]
DamagedModel=
DestroyedModel=
DestroyedEffect=
EmptyMass=80.00
Component[001]=Box01
Component[002]=Body
Component[003]=Launcher

[Sound]
EngineSoundName=
MovementSoundName=

[DetectSystem]
TargetType=AIR
DataLink=True
OpticalSight=TRUE
NightSight=TRUE
VisualRange=4500.0
ViewportPosition=0.0,0.0,1.70
MaxVisibleDistance=2500.0
RadarCrossSection=1

[WeaponSystem]
TargetType=AIR
MissileRange=6000.00
MinMissileRange=100.00
PitchAngleRate=50
MaxPitch=80.0
MinPitch=10.0
DefaultPitchAngle=20.0
YawAngleRate=50
YawLimited=False
MinYaw=
MaxYaw=
DefaultYawAngle=0
MissileLaunchTime=15.5
YawModelNodeName=Body
PitchModelNodeName=Launcher

[MovementSystem]
MaxRoadSpeed=2.4
MaxOffRoadSpeed=2
PowerAvailable=1
MaxTurnRate=16.0
MaxDeceleration=5.0
SuspensionConstant=14.0
MovementEmitterName=
MovementEmitterPosition=

[Box01]
ModelNodeName=Box01
MaxExtentPosition= 1.36, 2.70, 2.06
MinExtentPosition=-1.36,-2.03, 0.00
HasArmor=FALSE
ArmorMaterial=
Armor[FRONT].Thickness=10
Armor[RIGHT].Thickness=10
Armor[LEFT].Thickness=10
Armor[REAR].Thickness=10
Armor[TOP].Thickness=0
Armor[BOTTOM].Thickness=6
SystemName[001]=Engine

[Body]
ModelNodeName=Body
DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE
EffectSize=1.0
MaxExtentPosition= 0.61, 0.75, 3.04
MinExtentPosition=-0.61,-0.52, 1.88
HasArmor=FALSE
SystemName[001]=Launcher

[Engine]
SystemType=ENGINE
MaxExtentPosition= 0.88, 2.70, 1.22
MinExtentPosition=-0.88, 1.27, 0.37

[Launcher]
ModelNodeName=Launcher
MaxExtentPosition= 0.39, 0.20, 1.82
MinExtentPosition=-0.39,-0.70, 0.00
HasArmor=FALSE
SystemName[001]=Missile1
SystemName[002]=Missile2
SystemName[003]=Missile3
SystemName[004]=Missile4

[Missile1]
SystemType=MISSILE
MissileID=1
WeaponTypeName=SA-7
WeaponPosition=0.2,-0.10,1.6
ShowMissile=True
IndependentPitchMovement=FALSE

[Missile2]
SystemType=MISSILE
MissileID=2
WeaponTypeName=SA-7
WeaponPosition=0.2,-0.10,1.6
ShowMissile=True
IndependentPitchMovement=FALSE

[Missile3]
SystemType=MISSILE
MissileID=3
WeaponTypeName=SA-7
WeaponPosition=0.2,-0.10,1.6
ShowMissile=True
IndependentPitchMovement=FALSE

[Missile4]
SystemType=MISSILE
MissileID=4
WeaponTypeName=SA-7
WeaponPosition=0.2,-0.10,1.6
ShowMissile=True
IndependentPitchMovement=FALSE

Edited by Gepard
Posted

Thanks Gep ! I will give it a shot !

 

I have been getting Stingers fired at sense installing the Hardened Stinger Site mod. Also using all the other Air Defense mods as well.

 

Misty

Posted

Thanks Gep ! I will give it a shot !

 

I have been getting Stingers fired at me since installing the Hardened Stinger Site mod. I am also using all the other Air Defense mods as well.

 

Misty

Posted (edited)

mine stingers fired after small editing which works for SA-7 too

TargetType=AIR
MissileRange=6500.00
MinMissileRange=100.00
[b]PitchAngleRate=50[/b]
MaxPitch=80.0
MinPitch=10.0
;15.0 works
;0.0
DefaultPitchAngle=30.0
[b]YawAngleRate=60[/b]
YawLimited=FALSE
MinYaw=
MaxYaw=
DefaultYawAngle=0
[b]MissileLaunchTime=1.5[/b]
;10.5
YawModelNodeName=Body
PitchModelNodeName=StingerL

Edited by Monty CZ
Posted
Worked great brother, like a charm :good:

 

smple question: anyone have this problem after set show missile=true?

 

1295576eef09.jpg

 

I solved this only by sa-7L.lod patching.

Posted
smple question: anyone have this problem after set show missile=true?

 

1295576eef09.jpg

 

I solved this only by sa-7L.lod patching.

Strange... Nobody wishes to answer my question

 

My RussianSAM pack is ready, the problem with sa-7,14,16,18 (I use SA-7L for all) - the only thing, that prevents it to upload.

Posted (edited)
Strange... Nobody wishes to answer my question

 

My RussianSAM pack is ready, the problem with sa-7,14,16,18 (I use SA-7L for all) - the only thing, that prevents it to upload.

 

I think

show missile=true

means the missles are shown at the model (so the correct value for a missle launched from a "tube" should be "false"?)...

You don't need it to see the missle inflight.

Edited by Shaolin
Posted (edited)

Similar you not understand a situation: if the option show missile=true is not SET, the missile does not shoot.

But because of the POSSIBLE ERROR in LOD & INI, I see that on a picture, I wish to learn simply: others see the same, that I, or not.

Edited by lindr2
Posted

I think you can't solve that problem. As you already said: if you set show missile=true then you have the strange looking, if you set show missile=false the SAM will not fire.

Not really satisfying, but in game you will not very often come so close to a SA-7 to see this mistake.

Posted (edited)
I think you can't solve that problem. As you already said: if you set show missile=true then you have the strange looking, if you set show missile=false the SAM will not fire.

Not really satisfying, but in game you will not very often come so close to a SA-7 to see this mistake.

 

I solved this problem be 'patching' LOD. & edit ini. Thank you for answer!

Edited by lindr2

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