Leidgenosse Posted February 25, 2009 Posted February 25, 2009 Hi there, I just was flying a stock WoE MiG-21F-13 ( Yeah, I know I shouldn't ) and had a pretty fight with a F-100D while dodging Sparrows'n'Winders from 3 F-4Cs. Finally shot down the super sabre. Now on the 2nd mission, I would have appreciated a kill mark for that effort, but red side planes don't show them. So how can I mod the planes, so that they show up killmarks? I am not a pro in modding, so can anyone tell me how to do it right? Thanks Quote
Meathead Posted February 25, 2009 Posted February 25, 2009 You can try here: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=6494 Looks like it covers Israeli kill marks, but its a start Quote
Leidgenosse Posted February 25, 2009 Author Posted February 25, 2009 Nah, I've seen these before, but I don't think it would make any sense if you label soviet a/c with israeli killmarks. If somebody can tell me, how to do by myself, feel free to help Quote
+Wrench Posted February 25, 2009 Posted February 25, 2009 You'd need to know decal position (available in the mod above) and 100 --that's right!!!-- 100 NEW killmark decals for RedAir usage. I'd suggest the US star-and-bar, following the pattern of the existing killmarks. Wrench kevin stein Quote
+Timmy Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Most Soviet aircraft with kill marks that I have seen have had red stars as the kill marks. Just use the stock kill marks, imho. Quote
+Wrench Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Well, shhooott! There's goes 20 minutes of work!!! I was "experimentating" with the idea after reading this post this afternoon. see screenie attachted. I've zoomed up the psd, so it's a little blurry, sorry Wrench kevin stein Quote
Leidgenosse Posted February 26, 2009 Author Posted February 26, 2009 Niiiiice one, Wrench! That's exactly that what I was searching for! BTW: Will this be aviable as download, or is this still WIP ? Do we have to wait another two weeks ? No, seriously, it's great to see that if someone has an idea, but not the capability to convert it, gets help by the pro's and the community. Many many thanks Quote
+Gepard Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 The soviet way of killmark was only to paint small red stars close to the canopy. To use enemy insignia for Kilsigns was the anglo american way. The germans used simply bars on the Vertical tail. The japanese painted the shapes of the shot down planes on their birds. Quote
serverandenforcer Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 To use enemy insignia for Kilsigns was the anglo american way. But of course! I mean, you can have a whole bunch of red stars, bars, or aircraft models stickered on to your bird, but it all could have been against a nation who has crappy pilots and nobody would really know any better. Now posting what nation you actually faught against expresses a bit more on what you were facing in regards to the level of training that you might have been up against. Quote
+Wrench Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 (edited) Gepards got that right .... look at Galland's 109, just hash marks. In researching all them damn Zero and Tony skins, you can find all sorts of thing the IJN/IJAAF did; flower shapes, aircraft sillouhtes (sp?), etc. Using the already suppled in-game stars, with the associated ease of installation -- meaning NONE!!--, appeals to my sense of laziness If anyone wants this psd to continue fiddling with it, let me know and I'll give it to whomever wants it!! Mind you, it's far from complete, and any knowledgable PS user can figure out the rest Wrench kevin stein EDIT: yah, I think these look pretty good, using the stock ones!! Edited February 26, 2009 by Wrench added screenie Quote
+lindr2 Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 (edited) Russian bombers also have marks 'Sucsessful mission marks' on mission - one star. I watched 2 Su-34 returned on OUR airfield after WAR in Georgia in 2008 on have 8 marks, second 9. I peace time Interceptor also have marks - 10 patrol flights - one star. in Afganistan some squadrons used NON-standart marks. Edited February 26, 2009 by lindr2 Quote
+Wrench Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 with a clearer picture of the the above, those would be real easy to make decals from! (interestering to note, no one has commented on the 'nationality' of the 21MF in my screenie!!) Wrench kevin stein Quote
ndicki Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 (edited) (interestering to note, no one has commented on the 'nationality' of the 21MF in my screenie!!) Er..... Yes.... I give up? But the Sovs have always used stars as kill marks. The Germans though used often to paint tiny roundels/stars along with the type, date and place on the "bars" they painted on the tailfin or rudder.You can just about make them out in the photo here. Most model kit decal manufacturers don't bother, because they'd be pretty well invisible, at least in small scales. Edited February 27, 2009 by ndicki Quote
thundercheif Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 (interestering to note, no one has commented on the 'nationality' of the 21MF in my screenie!!) Nicaragua if im not mistaken Quote
+Wrench Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 Give that man a cee-gar (not a Tainted one)!!! An almost skin (ok, a What If...) for use on the Panama map. As the FAN almost really did get Fishbeds, I thought it'd be a nice addition Wrench kevin stein Quote
+The Trooper Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 (edited) with a clearer picture of the the above, those would be real easy to make decals from! These are not kill, but mission marks. Bombs for successful bombing missions and missile silhouettes for escort missions. Each white star on the nose means 10 combat sorties. Edited February 27, 2009 by The Trooper Quote
+lindr2 Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 These are not kill, but mission marks. Bombs for successful bombing missions and missile silhouettes for escort missions. Each white star on the nose means 10 combat sorties. Yes you are ABSOLUTELY correct!!! Quote
Viggen Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 What kind of missions did MiG-23UBs preform in Afganistan? Quote
Jarhead1 Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 What kind of missions did MiG-23UBs preform in Afganistan? From what I have heard, mainly command and control and FAC. Quote
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