von Richtofen's Triplane...?

[Hauksbee 103]

Every once in a while, I run across a some info that casts doubt on whether von Richtofen's triplane was all red. I just flew against a Richtofen-skinned triplane and there was a khaki green band on the fuselage, and, I think, on the middle wing. [couldn't stay close enough long enough to get a screen shot] What's the final word on this?

[+Polovski 457]

That's one craft the guys would spend time getting right - I'll let them comment ;)

[Snoopy syndrome 0]

 

It seems that the famous triplane looks more like this than the entierely red scheme claim by the legend.

Edited March 26, 2009 by Snoopy syndrome

[Winston DoRight 3]

It looked all red to me, when I shot him down in my SE5a Viper........... twice. Didn't really check it out though. At the time there were so many other things going on..........

 

The photo above looks like Lothar's kite I believe?

Edited March 26, 2009 by Winston DoRight

[Cameljockey 3]

Actually, I believe that's standard run of the mill Jasta 11 livery.

 

CJ

[OvS 8]

It looked all red to me, when I shot him down in my SE5a Viper........... twice. Didn't really check it out though. At the time there were so many other things going on..........

 

The photo above looks like Lothar's kite I believe?

 

MvR flew the all red Triplane from about late February to April 1918 until he died. He flew a few variants of the Dr.1, starting with the F.1 version, which was grayish/turquoise. Once it was approved for flight, his first Dr.1 was mostly Olive Drab and red as seen above. He then switched to the all red version, with MALTEES crosses, then in mid-march, he changed to the the all red with Balken crosses which he was shot down in.

 

We have him in the later of the two.

 

OvS

[Snoopy syndrome 0]

I've just read (well, "flew over" would be more exact) a topic about this, very long topic ...

http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/aircraft...-triplanes.html

 

To sum up, it seems that only the last DR1, MvR flew when he died was all red. That confirm Ovs reply.

[Hauksbee 103]

To sum up, it seems that only the last DR1, MvR flew when he died was all red. That confirm Ovs reply.

 

 

And there it is. Thanks all.

[OvS 8]

Frankly I couldn't give two schitz one way or the other. But I'm holding in my sweaty little hands a book

 

Richthofen's Circus. . Aviation Elite Units . . . .Osprey Publishing . . Greg VanWyngarden

 

Now I don't know Greg, from a hole in the wall. But he put his name on the book, bent over and grabbed his ankles. To me that means something

 

Now in the center there are about 10 full color pages

 

Alb DIII unknown number, totally RED Flown by MvR April 1917

 

Alb D V D 1177/17 totally RED Flown by MvR June 1917

 

Fokker DR1 127/17 mostly RED Flown by MvR March 1918

 

There were 9 Dr1's and MvR's was the most RED of them, I'd say it was half/half as far as square inches fabric, the other half being the stock green/gray

 

When MvR was killer his Dr1, was torn to shredds by sovaineer hunters

 

No mention of a all RED paintjob, was ever mentioned

 

The Book is still available from Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/Richthofens-Circus-J...4620&sr=1-1

 

Everybody is entitiled to their own opinion, one way or the other, but fact there can be only one

 

Here's a quicker read...

 

http://www.acepilots.com/wwi/ger_richthofen.html

 

OvS

[Olham 164]

Well, I believe, OvS and the other skinners have researched it all well.

Here are some pictures, corresponding to OvS' words above. All info from: The Wings Palette http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww1/f/415/59

The planes shown are:

 

Unit: JG I (Serial: F.I.102/17)

Pilots: Rittm Manfred von Richthofen (JG I, August-September)

ObLt Kurt Wolff (Jasta 11, September, he killed on this aircraft)

Note: engine cowling maybe Red.

 

Unit: JG 1 (Serial: Dr.127/17)

Pilot: Rittm Manfred Von Richthofen

 

Unit: JG I (Serial: Dr.141/17)

Pilot: Rittm Manfred Von Richthofen.

Unit: JG I (Serial: Dr.152/17)

Pilot - Rittm Manfred von Richthofen. France, March 1918

 

Unit: JG I (Serial: Dr.161/17)

Pilot - Rittm Manfred von Richthofen. France, March 1918

 

Unit: JG I (Serial: Dr.477/17)

Pilot - Manfred Von Richthofen. France, end of March 1918.

 

Unit: JG I (Serial: Dr.425/17)

Pilot - baron Manfred Von Richthofen, 1918.

Aircraft was painted in Red at factory. Richthofen is top-scoring ace of World War I with 80 kills. He was shot down on 21 April 1918.

 

Unit: Jasta 11 (Serial: Dr.454/17)

Pilot - CO of Jasta 11, Lt.Lothar von Richthofen. France, March-April 1918.

Flown this aircraft in March 1918 he shot down 3 enemy plane.

 

The last plane is of Lothar - for Uncle - it was not red, but yellow at the tail.

Yellow was the colour of a cavallery regiment, Lothar had served in before.

Edited March 27, 2009 by Olham

[Olham 164]

Flieger Test Dummy just did a "test ride" on the Dr.1, with HOTAS Cougar

and his pedals reinstalled.

My god, what a ride! I thought I saw one of the pilots of an S.E.5a vomit

out the cockpit - dizzydizzy - but they had no chance to get behind this plane.

Shot two down in this scramble, and now I'm hot for more.

What this plane can perform with realistic rudder, is incredible!