topcat II 6 Posted May 18, 2009 Hi all I have SF2 AND 2V does anyone have the F-4N working in SF2 all I show is weapons and no plane I checked the knowledge base and it covers nothing on this mostly cockpits. Thanks in advance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+331Killerbee 840 Posted May 18, 2009 SF2 Series is senstive to Naming Conventions. Open the F-4N.INI and in the Lines where it states .LOD's, See if they match how the actual .LOD's are named. For Example, If the .LOD's are named F-4N and the .INI says F-4n or f-4n, Chances are it might not show. Using matching Lower Case and Upper Case Letters should solve it.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench 9,866 Posted May 19, 2009 Try these: [LOD001]Filename=F-4B.lod Distance=100 [LOD002] Filename=F-4b_lod002.lod Distance=250 [LOD003] Filename=F-4b_lod003.lod Distance=500 [LOD004] Filename=F-4b_lod004.lod Distance=1000 [LOD005] Filename=F-4b_lod005.lod Distance=8000 Mind you, beinging in SF2 may make a difference -- the skins will be mapped to the orignal SF/Wo* F-4B lods. You may need to extract them from one of the Classic Games, and drop them into the F-4N folder. wrench kevin stein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+331Killerbee 840 Posted May 19, 2009 (edited) Kevin, You're right......He'll need a .LOD from an Eariler Title in that case. A SF2 .LOD won't work. It's formatted differently. Edited May 19, 2009 by 331Killerbee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topcat II 6 Posted May 19, 2009 Thank You all for the help it is now working Wrench hit it I needed the F-4B Lods. Many thanks!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topcat II 6 Posted May 19, 2009 Hi guys question this fix did work should it be in the knowledge base??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ndicki 22 Posted May 19, 2009 (edited) In SF2, you have two F-4B types: F-4B: [LOD001] Filename=F-4B.lod Distance=100 [LOD002] Filename=F-4b_lod2.lod Distance=250 [LOD003] Filename=F-4b_lod3.lod Distance=500 [LOD004] Filename=F-4b_lod4.lod Distance=1000 [LOD005] Filename=F-4b_lod5.lod Distance=10000 And F-4B (1965) [LOD001] Filename=F-4B_65.lod Distance=100 [LOD002] Filename=F-4B_LOD2.lod Distance=250 [LOD003] Filename=F-4B_LOD3.lod Distance=500 [LOD004] Filename=F-4B_LOD4.lod Distance=1000 [LOD005] Filename=F-4B_LOD5.lod Distance=10000 These are copied directly out of the stock, unmodified, ini files. The capitalisation is as issued. Texture file names for the F-4B are named: F-4B_1.BMP F-4B_2.BMP F-4B_3.BMP F-4B_4.BMP F-4B_5.BMP So your .ini will need to reflect these LOD names, and your texture bitmaps need to correspond to the new convention. What is frustrating is that scanning the new type of LOD files with a hex editor does not reveal the file names... Edited May 19, 2009 by ndicki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench 9,866 Posted May 19, 2009 The internal formats are different for the SF2 series, so methinks our old tried and true method of exhuming them with the old style hex editors is not working. Also, the mapping has changed, causing major incompatibilities ... Classic Stuff has to use Classic Stuff. No way around it. Also, in regards to the N Phantom, it IS only mapped to the old style lods. But extracting, moving them to the aircraft folder in SF2, and having the proper setup is only the matter of a few minutes work, as the F-4B is in EVERY version of the Classic Series. A simple, and easy fix. wrench kevin stein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ndicki 22 Posted May 19, 2009 Actually, for the F-4s, the mapping is the same. The skins themselves are better, higher res, etc, but the old ones fit fine. The larger one is from SF2, the other SFG. They look a bit different, but they aren't. Some other aircraft may be different, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench 9,866 Posted May 19, 2009 You know, you all are gonna make/force/convince me to spend 20 bucks I ain't got and get this thing, right??? I'm sure I can drege it up somehow... "oh, honey, can I borrow 20 bucks?" wrench kevin stein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest a10boar Posted May 19, 2009 You know, you all are gonna make/force/convince me to spend 20 bucks I ain't got and get this thing, right??? I'm sure I can drege it up somehow... "oh, honey, can I borrow 20 bucks?" wrench kevin stein That's my problem,no money and to ask will get a longer "honey do" list.That is way I am selling off my pc games no longer play to purchase the next series.Another shameless plug.Look at bottom of main combatace forum page. Btw,nice F-4N update Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ndicki 22 Posted May 20, 2009 Kevin, my china, you just don't tell her. How do you think I got it? Click on the button, enter your visa card number, and Bob's your uncle. It's not as though you're going to be coming back from the shops with a CD case stuck up your jumper, is it? For the time being, SF2 is a bit of a luxury. But that is going to be where the effort is made in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Jug 99 Posted May 20, 2009 You know, you all are gonna make/force/convince me to spend 20 bucks I ain't got and get this thing, right??? I'm sure I can drege it up somehow... "oh, honey, can I borrow 20 bucks?" wrench kevin stein Kevin, as much as you contribute here and to my own enjoyment of the game, I'll give you $20. Just don't call me Honey! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dave 2,322 Posted May 20, 2009 and Bob's your uncle. You know my Uncle Bob? WOW! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Sundowner 4,837 Posted May 20, 2009 F-4 maps are different.....take a look at the wing bmp's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ndicki 22 Posted May 20, 2009 So they are... well, bugger me! I must be using the SFP1 LODs for my stand-alones, then. Odd... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Sundowner 4,837 Posted May 20, 2009 ... well, bugger me! eeeewwwww........only as a last resort mate...... :blush2: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dave 2,322 Posted May 20, 2009 You 2 wankers are sick, get a room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ndicki 22 Posted May 21, 2009 You know my Uncle Bob? WOW! Nee, not your Uncle Bob - MY Uncle Bob! Not the same one at all! But you're very welcome to him anyway... (Where are all the violent smileys, then? Ones with all kinds of evil weaponry? I could only find one single one with a minigun. Hmph.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
