Modernized military Hardware

[+76.IAP-Blackbird]

Never seen those BMP`s or this kind of Hind! Looks impressive, does someone has some infor about this hardware?

 

http://www.tinysquishy.com/Company/Team/Diaries/2006.html

Edited July 26, 2010 by 76.IAP-Blackbird

[Slartibartfast]

As to the upgraded Hind its by a South African Company the link gives an idea...

 

http://www.guncopter.com/super-hind/

 

Basically take the old Airframe and modify it with new avionics and weapons... There is also an Israeli company doing something similar.

 

Here's one of the Hinds in flight

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-811132659577028591#

 

As to the AFV looks like a BMP with a Turret set for Anti-Tank Missiles possibly the South African Ingwe

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingwe_%28missile%29

 

This latter is a guess though...

Edited July 26, 2010 by Slartibartfast

[Abhi]

All mi series helos make 1 common sound,the choey choey wen the do a flypast.

[Hokum]

The hind looks similar to the one in Blood diamond. SA do alot of mod stuff and some of it is rather good!

[Slartibartfast]

Okay after further investigation the Hind is not a Denel upgrade but an ATE Upgrade South African company still

 

http://www.ate-group.com/ate_Product/10/index.html

 

Looks like the only country to buy into it is Algeria and Rostovol??? original makers of the Hind are saying it makes the Aircraft Dangerous to fly etc...

[Abhi]

dangerous,how?????????/

[FastCargo]

Could be it throws the CG farther forward than the original designers anticipated.

 

FC

[Gr.Viper]

I wonder why nobody uses the space of the troop transport section.

[SayethWhaaaa]

I thought this had already been through qualifications already? The SuperHind is ugly as sin, and like all fugly vehicles, must be awesome at what it does!

[Slartibartfast]

It is true that the Helo has been qualified to fly etc... I think its just that Rostovol are just bad mouthing as they didn't get the job as from what I understand the Algerian Military is very happy with the Fugly bird... I tell you this much the Hind was ugly to start with and after this nose job it gets a 10 out of 10 in the Fugly awards...

[Gr.Viper]

It's not the first Hind's nose job. Maybe somebody should give her back her old nose?

[JediMaster]

Ugh, I HATE the "greenhouse" of the Hind-A.

[shotdown]

I wonder why nobody uses the space of the troop transport section.

 

I think it's a matter of weight. With weapons and internal cargo, it becomes too heavy and difficult to manouver. I've heard the cargo space is used to carry extra ammo.

Edited July 30, 2010 by shotdown

[+Gepard]

I think the russians are speaking bad about the south african and israeli modernization programms, because they offer 2 own programms to enhance the capabilities of the hind.

In both cases they implement technology of the Mi-28N into the Mi-24. The improved russian Hinds have now full night fight capability, new engines, improved weapons and a Mi-28 (AH-64) style tail rotor which is reducing the noise of the helicopter significantly.

[JediMaster]

That's the Mi-35M, but I don't know if that's a retrofit program or it's only new builds. The funny thing is the Mi-35 used to be just the export downgrade model. Now the Mi-35M is the better version and Russia itself is buying a few dozen.

[Hokum]

The trouble is that the Mi-24/35 is a JOAT design. As a gunship it's big cause of the troop/cargo hold, and as a troop transport it's not much better than a cheaper Hip bar better armour, making it heavier and less suited for landing stoops in tight areas.

 

I don't know why people would buy them these days. Didn't Brazil buy some recently?

Edited August 2, 2010 by Hokum

[+Gepard]

It is the perfect heli for SAR missions. It does not need combat helicopter escorts as all other SAR helis.

[Slartibartfast]

The trouble is that the Mi-24/35 is a JOAT design. As a gunship it's big cause of the troop/cargo hold, and as a troop transport it's not much better than a cheaper Hip bar better armour, making it heavier and less suited for landing stoops in tight areas.

 

I don't know why people would buy them these days. Didn't Brazil buy some recently?

 

Yes they did but from a military point of view it does make some sense... CSAR is one of them... also it can take a few hits and also they work out a lot cheaper than an Apache...

[Hokum]

True but I don't think the Apache was in the running in the first place! I think it was VS the Mongoose and the Rooivalk.

 

Shame they didn't get the choice of the KA-52!