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As to the upgraded Hind its by a South African Company the link gives an idea...

 

http://www.guncopter.com/super-hind/

 

Basically take the old Airframe and modify it with new avionics and weapons... There is also an Israeli company doing something similar.

 

Here's one of the Hinds in flight

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-811132659577028591#

 

As to the AFV looks like a BMP with a Turret set for Anti-Tank Missiles possibly the South African Ingwe

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingwe_%28missile%29

 

This latter is a guess though...

Edited by Slartibartfast

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The hind looks similar to the one in Blood diamond. SA do alot of mod stuff and some of it is rather good!

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Okay after further investigation the Hind is not a Denel upgrade but an ATE Upgrade South African company still

 

http://www.ate-group.com/ate_Product/10/index.html

 

Looks like the only country to buy into it is Algeria and Rostovol??? original makers of the Hind are saying it makes the Aircraft Dangerous to fly etc...

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I thought this had already been through qualifications already? The SuperHind is ugly as sin, and like all fugly vehicles, must be awesome at what it does!

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It is true that the Helo has been qualified to fly etc... I think its just that Rostovol are just bad mouthing as they didn't get the job as from what I understand the Algerian Military is very happy with the Fugly bird... I tell you this much the Hind was ugly to start with and after this nose job it gets a 10 out of 10 in the Fugly awards...

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I wonder why nobody uses the space of the troop transport section.

 

I think it's a matter of weight. With weapons and internal cargo, it becomes too heavy and difficult to manouver. I've heard the cargo space is used to carry extra ammo.

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I think the russians are speaking bad about the south african and israeli modernization programms, because they offer 2 own programms to enhance the capabilities of the hind.

In both cases they implement technology of the Mi-28N into the Mi-24. The improved russian Hinds have now full night fight capability, new engines, improved weapons and a Mi-28 (AH-64) style tail rotor which is reducing the noise of the helicopter significantly.

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That's the Mi-35M, but I don't know if that's a retrofit program or it's only new builds. The funny thing is the Mi-35 used to be just the export downgrade model. Now the Mi-35M is the better version and Russia itself is buying a few dozen.

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The trouble is that the Mi-24/35 is a JOAT design. As a gunship it's big cause of the troop/cargo hold, and as a troop transport it's not much better than a cheaper Hip bar better armour, making it heavier and less suited for landing stoops in tight areas.

 

I don't know why people would buy them these days. Didn't Brazil buy some recently?

Edited by Hokum

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The trouble is that the Mi-24/35 is a JOAT design. As a gunship it's big cause of the troop/cargo hold, and as a troop transport it's not much better than a cheaper Hip bar better armour, making it heavier and less suited for landing stoops in tight areas.

 

I don't know why people would buy them these days. Didn't Brazil buy some recently?

 

Yes they did but from a military point of view it does make some sense... CSAR is one of them... also it can take a few hits and also they work out a lot cheaper than an Apache...

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True but I don't think the Apache was in the running in the first place! I think it was VS the Mongoose and the Rooivalk.

 

Shame they didn't get the choice of the KA-52!

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