MigBuster 2,884 Posted February 25, 2012 And, for any Brits reading this, to make this slightly lighter reading - aren't Man Utd s**te? Couldn't believe them getting turned over by Ajax. Fergie tried the 'young team' excuse, disregarding the fact that the Ajax team are actually younger than his own. A woeful performance. As a City fan, I enjoyed their discomfiture, but I find it hard to believe that they can persist with Jones and the useless Evans in their team. What midfield? Cheers, Si Worryingly I can still see Man Utd taking the title though! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave63 13 Posted February 25, 2012 Indeed. Wouldn't it be interesting if it was all decided by a final head to head match? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigBuster 2,884 Posted February 25, 2012 I would put money on Man Utd winning it as well - people have been saying how bad Man Utd are for about the past 6 years - yet they are still at the top and still look very strong 95% of the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derk 265 Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) This vid has it's function, doesn't matter if you like it or not. Sure sounds a bell, it's against corruption, bribery, it's against bulls**t (like whale catching for "scientific purposes" by the Japanese for instance ), it's against commercial killing of almost extinct species, it's against killing good people etc. etc. But first and foremost, whatever you may think, it's simply pro life, pro nature and pro Earth . Let's enjoy life, nature and Earth and let's be carefull with all of them . For me that doesn't automatically mean it's propaganda for green nazi's (who I dislike as well) and all sorts of little people who are against everything anyway Edited February 25, 2012 by Derk 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Typhoid 231 Posted February 26, 2012 Well, I honestly didn’t want to come back to this thread, yet what you wrote, and more importantly, implied here crossed the line by far... I´m not going to reply to your outrageous conspiracy nonsense (which is actually so ridiculous that it´s funny) but I may give you some personal insight: I am a biologist and I work on biodiversity. So you can either stand up and tell me to my face that my PhD studies are all a fraud and that I´m a liar paid by some eco-fascists (or for that matter: the climate conspiracy or the economic socialists...you name it) or you can apologize to me for your defamatory statements. Your call... Like Hell I'll apologize! Everything that I wrote is well documented and can be researched easily enough. Your demand is right in there with the gutless tactics of the Eco-Fascists who demand subservient obedience because they are the brilliant ones - the data and the issues themselves don't count. This is the core of the debate between the Thermophobes and the Skeptics - the Thermophobes are scared to death of an actual scientific discussion and instead resort to empty assertions, denigration of their opponents and deny that anyone else knows anything. If you feel that your PhD entitles you to a free pass on scientific issues - guess what. You are not the only person out there that knows something of this. If you value your scientific credentials - then don't tolerate scientific misconduct on the part of your peers. Climategate 1 Scientists behaving badly and conspiring to defame scientists who don't agree and suppressing scientific papers, manipulating data and engaging in blatant fraud to cook the climate records. Conspiracy to block FOI requests for data. Climategate 2 More of the same and in addition - consipiring to blacklist scientists, pull funding and revoke PhD's. Fakegate A scientist fabricates a memo to defraud skeptics. Suppression of oil, gas and coal production - just read what the Current Criminal Regime has stated themselves. They have openly stated their intent to bankrupt power companies and drive the price of gas and oil up in order to make green energy projects competetive. Take your blinders off and see what your cohorts are doing. Do you accept a scientific debate on the issues? or do you simply demonize your opponents as you yourself did in your post above. You want to shut me down by citing your PhD and expect me to genuflect at your feet without question. Not a chance. You make the scientific case on its merits, not on simply on your credentials. Prove your case - don't just demand compliance because you think you're smarter. You're not. It was not my intent to hijack this into a contentious political discussion and I expect the moderators will rightly lock the thread. But I will not stand idly by why some tinpot wannabe dictator simply commands compliance and obedience. If you want my respect - you earn it. I am a published skeptic and have been researching and writing on this for years. You don't get a free pass from me. Goodby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Typhoid 231 Posted February 26, 2012 Srangely enough..it was the last part of the video I found the most moving!...all those nice people, murdered for protecting what needs protecting, from the greed of others I agree with you on that point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+ToS 14 Posted February 26, 2012 Like Hell I'll apologize! Everything that I wrote is well documented and can be researched easily enough. Your demand is right in there with the gutless tactics of the Eco-Fascists who demand subservient obedience because they are the brilliant ones - the data and the issues themselves don't count. This is the core of the debate between the Thermophobes and the Skeptics - the Thermophobes are scared to death of an actual scientific discussion and instead resort to empty assertions, denigration of their opponents and deny that anyone else knows anything. If you feel that your PhD entitles you to a free pass on scientific issues - guess what. You are not the only person out there that knows something of this. If you value your scientific credentials - then don't tolerate scientific misconduct on the part of your peers. Climategate 1 Scientists behaving badly and conspiring to defame scientists who don't agree and suppressing scientific papers, manipulating data and engaging in blatant fraud to cook the climate records. Conspiracy to block FOI requests for data. Climategate 2 More of the same and in addition - consipiring to blacklist scientists, pull funding and revoke PhD's. Fakegate A scientist fabricates a memo to defraud skeptics. Suppression of oil, gas and coal production - just read what the Current Criminal Regime has stated themselves. They have openly stated their intent to bankrupt power companies and drive the price of gas and oil up in order to make green energy projects competetive. Take your blinders off and see what your cohorts are doing. Do you accept a scientific debate on the issues? or do you simply demonize your opponents as you yourself did in your post above. You want to shut me down by citing your PhD and expect me to genuflect at your feet without question. Not a chance. You make the scientific case on its merits, not on simply on your credentials. Prove your case - don't just demand compliance because you think you're smarter. You're not. It was not my intent to hijack this into a contentious political discussion and I expect the moderators will rightly lock the thread. But I will not stand idly by why some tinpot wannabe dictator simply commands compliance and obedience. If you want my respect - you earn it. I am a published skeptic and have been researching and writing on this for years. You don't get a free pass from me. Goodby. Boy, I´m really tired of your “argumentation” For the last time: this is not about climate change (and whatever problem you have with it) You impertinently stated that the increased extinction rate is a “fantasy” produced by “corrupt scientists” to achieve.....yeah, what was that again? Do you really think you can infamize science which such disrespectful ignorance just because the results don´t fit your humble point of view?? It´s completely pointless to start any fact-based “discussion” with you since you don´t respect facts, other than the few ones that support your case (in that respect you are in perfect company with the intelligent design/creationism crowd). I offered you a link to a source of many facts I was curious to hear your theories about, yet you just ignored it or, even better, dismissed the facts as fraud. You my friend are not a skeptic; you are polemic, throwing generalized dirt towards anything that may endanger your misguided world view. Frankly, I just can´t take you seriously (uuh, was that arrogant of me....). But I echo your last point: Goodbye Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UK_Widowmaker 571 Posted February 26, 2012 This vid has it's function, doesn't matter if you like it or not. Sure sounds a bell, it's against corruption, bribery, it's against bulls**t (like whale catching for "scientific purposes" by the Japanese for instance ), it's against commercial killing of almost extinct species, it's against killing good people etc. etc. But first and foremost, whatever you may think, it's simply pro life, pro nature and pro Earth . Let's enjoy life, nature and Earth and let's be carefull with all of them . For me that doesn't automatically mean it's propaganda for green nazi's (who I dislike as well) and all sorts of little people who are against everything anyway Perfectly put Sir!...I agree with every word! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
