+Gepard 11,324 Posted January 7, 2014 I dont understand why some folks want to paint a danger of war in South America on the wall. Its one of the areas of the world with the fewest military conflicts between states. There is no real need for super expensive super capable planes. Brazil will be happy with the Gripen. And if they would have the Viper, they would happy too. Both planes are good for the needed tasks. And this is more or less only air policing. And MAKO, why do you think Russia want to invade an other country? This is a typical american job. If you count how many invasions were started by americans since 1990 and how many by russians, which numbers would be higher? I give you a hint, surely not the russian. Could it be, that you not yet realized that cold war is over? Russians arent commies anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toryu 156 Posted January 7, 2014 There is no real need for super expensive super capable planes. Especially, when there are other, more pressing things to do than buying a fighter that isn't of any good, other than looking shiny. Who's gonna attack Brazil? Brazil - a country mostly made up of tropical rainforest and surrounded by sea on one side and 4-5km high mountains on the other. Good luck "invading" that country! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted January 8, 2014 Could it be, that you not yet realized that cold war is over? Russians arent commies anymore. The name hung on the economic model is largely irrelevant to global politics. There's no doubt that compared to his predecessor Putin is far less concerned with "getting along" with the West. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MAKO69 186 Posted February 4, 2014 I dont understand why some folks want to paint a danger of war in South America on the wall. Its one of the areas of the world with the fewest military conflicts between states. There is no real need for super expensive super capable planes. Brazil will be happy with the Gripen. And if they would have the Viper, they would happy too. Both planes are good for the needed tasks. And this is more or less only air policing. And MAKO, why do you think Russia want to invade an other country? This is a typical american job. If you count how many invasions were started by americans since 1990 and how many by russians, which numbers would be higher? I give you a hint, surely not the russian. Could it be, that you not yet realized that cold war is over? Russians arent commies anymore. My original statement/question on your statement: If Brazil gets friendly (with Russia) I quote you "But what if the connection Brazil - Russia becomes closer." ? ( I asked) How do you mean? Just because a country purchases equipment from another country doesn't mean that they are allies and Brazil will support Russia if they decide to invade or go to war with another country ( maybe this was a little extreme, but Brazil purchasing equipment doesn't mean they become politically closer, which is what I got out of your statement. However they may become economically closer two different things. Look at the United States and China, the US may not buy military goods from China, but these countries economies are intertwined. (Russia has invaded countries recently Georgia in 2008). Is that what you mean? ( Brazil buying the copters) Its a business decision. The Russian's make pretty good equipment that is a little less expensive than other countries. Upgrades and modifications may or may not be allowed because SAAB may not want the Russians putting their Commie hands on the aircraft they designed. And yes the US State Department has a heavy influence on Brazil's military capability. Between the Brazilian Air Force and Navy there are some half dozen or so aircraft that have origins in the US, and or allies of the U.S. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites