Aircraft types not updating in SF2I campaigns

[warthog64 92]

I've recently been playing the campaigns from the SF2I expansion pack. However I've noticed that in the Attrition War campaign that most Arab aircraft types that are suppose to update to a different type throughout the campaign are not doing so. If I fly the Arab version of the campaign I do not see this problem, so it obviously only effects non-player aircraft. Has anyone else had this issue?

[Do335 382]

Tis normal..

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You might not always get the upgrade, supply and other constraints limit what and when they're availale, and combat status may prevent unit from upgrading immediately (there has to be a lull in combat for unit to upgrade) so the date you specify is the earliest the plane will be available.

http://bbs.thirdwire.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=23624#p23624

 

From own experience the "lull in combat" was rather important.

Edited December 20, 2017 by Do335

[RustyKurnass 657]

I've also learned here from the forum,that the game's engine can't upgrade at the same time aircraft tipes and texture.

If you have a MiG-17F with EAFCamo1 that will upgrades to MiG-21PF with EAFCamo2 for ex, the plane don't upgrade.If you simply cnange the texture to EAFCamo1 the upgrades work,thrust me,this happened to me with the IAF bird.

After upgrades,you simply change the camo of the planes from the Loadout menu.

[warthog64 92]

Thanks for the info

[m275500 5]

On 20‏/12‏/2017 at 10:48 AM, RustyKurnass said:

After upgrades,you simply change the camo of the planes from the Loadout menu

That's for us, but what about the al. Sure no one wants a t62 with a green skin in Afghanistan lol or an indian mig 21 with polish camo. It doesn't seems like there is a way to control their skins? If there I would appreciate it if u tell me lol 

[RustyKurnass 657]

Maybe you can try to updates first only the planes with the old same skin name and add another line to upgrade the skin

One example from the Campaign.ini of the Golan Stalemate IDF side:

[AirUnit018]
AircraftType=Nesher
Squadron=144IDF
ForceID=1
Nation=ISRAEL
DefaultTexture=IDFCamo2

UpgradeType=FIXED
Upgrade[01].Date=02/01/1978
Upgrade[01].Type=KfirC2              <---------------------------  First upgrade only the plane...
Upgrade[01].Texture=IDFCamo2
Upgrade[02].Date=02/04/1978
Upgrade[02].Type=KfirC2
Upgrade[02].Texture=IDFGREY1    <--------------------------------------   ...then the skin

                 

[Wrench 9,846]

also, let's not the aircraft/vehicle userlist inis, and more importantly, each terrains "LimitedNations" statement and list. that should prevent (the operative words, of course) anything that don't belong from appearing where it ain't supposed to. Terrain's also have a "GroundObjectTexture=" statement that (again,the operative word) should prevent desert camo fro showing up in Germany and vice versa.

[+dtmdragon 2,703]

14 hours ago, RustyKurnass said:

Maybe you can try to updates first only the planes with the old same skin name and add another line to upgrade the skin

One example from the Campaign.ini of the Golan Stalemate IDF side:

[AirUnit018]
AircraftType=Nesher
Squadron=144IDF
ForceID=1
Nation=ISRAEL
DefaultTexture=IDFCamo2

UpgradeType=FIXED
Upgrade[01].Date=02/01/1978
Upgrade[01].Type=KfirC2              <---------------------------  First upgrade only the plane...
Upgrade[01].Texture=IDFCamo2
Upgrade[02].Date=02/04/1978
Upgrade[02].Type=KfirC2
Upgrade[02].Texture=IDFGREY1    <--------------------------------------   ...then the skin

                 

This will work to get around the problem.  Provided that the amount of time between your aircraft upgrade and then skin change is longer than the maximum possible time between missions. Even by just one day.

[m275500 5]

Thanks for the help. This problem was really a pain in the u know what lol 

[m275500 5]

Doesn't seem to be working for me for some reason 

This is one of the entries 

[AirUnit018]

AircraftType=Canberra6

Squadron=016IAF

ForceID=2

Nation=India

DefaultTexture=RAFCAMO1

BaseArea=Jalalabad Airbase

BaseMoveChance=0

RandomChance=100

MaxAircraft=20

StartAircraft=20

MaxPilots=20

StartPilots=20

Experience=100

Intelligence=20

Morale=100

Supply=100

MissionChance[SWEEP]=0

MissionChance[CAP]=0

MissionChance[INTERCEPT]=0

MissionChance[ESCORT]=0

MissionChance=90

MissionChance[CAS]=75

MissionChance[SEAD]=30

MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=35

MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=80

MissionChance[RECON]=75

UpgradeType=Fixed

Upgrade[01].Date=6/5/1980

Upgrade[01].Type=MiG-25RU

Upgrade[01].Texture=RAFCAMO1

Upgrade[02].Date=6/6/1981

Upgrade[02].Type=MiG-25RU

Upgrade[02].Texture=IAFSilver1 

My normal mission's rate is 360 so the difference between skin and aircraft upgrade is one day higher than it and i have some which are months or weeks higher and they didn't work too...

Offensive mission rate is 90 

What seems to be wrong here and ground units refuse to upgrade aswell see

GroundUnit001]

GroundObjectType=T-55

UnitName=1st Tank division

ForceID=1

Nation=Afghanistan

BaseArea=Taliban Warlord Capital south of Lashkar Gar

RandomChance=100

StartObjects=100

MaxObjects=100

Experience=80

Morale=100

Supply=100

Intelligence=70

UpgradeType=Fixed

Upgrade[01].Date=10/5/1973

Upgrade[01].Type=T-62A

Upgrade[01].Texture=Tan

That's for ground units. And I checked their folders and they are alright. So, I don't know the cause of this problem for now or should I follow the same path with em as the aircraft like upgrading the tank first then the skin..

Thanks in advance..

Sorry for the paragraph look, I don't really know what is the cause for this..

 

 

 

 

Edited March 14, 2021 by m275500

[Wrench 9,846]

something with the board's software, on certain formated items.  i've had it happen to me too. 

[m275500 5]

Mmm... I hope that my entries are clear. However, do u know what's is wrong with em? Tried to make them higher than normal mission rate and in other experiments lower than em. Moreover, both didn't work for me. So, I am quite confused about it.

 

[Wrench 9,846]

campaign stuff i don't know about ... the last campaign I played was in 2005 in the original Desert map (cheated with nukes as soon as the 1st weapons pack came out)

I was talking about the "paragraph look" you mentioned above

[m275500 5]

Lol nevermind got to fix it with the help of rusty kurnass. I am gonna post a toturial about it after some trial and error experiments.

[+dtmdragon 2,703]

I'm interested in what the problem  was for. Years ago I had the same problem but how I fixed it other than my previous suggestion to you I can't remember.

[m275500 5]

Some annoying start and end dates for aircrafts,skins, and sometimes nations' usage of these aircrafts. These are the type of issues which are easy to forget, and it took long checking these entries for every single unit. I have used google to know these aircrafts' service dates and they did contradict with the aircraft's users and data dates. Just a small problem from thier modders. still, I appreciate their work tho. And that's not a big mistake, it's just a small tweaks in the aircraft users files and it's all done. 

Edited March 25, 2021 by m275500