Weird things about service markings and paint schemes in campaign

[Loriaaaaane]

Hi,

I've made a what-if DDR livery of an existing EF-2000 mod on forum and tried to include it into a campaign. Weird things happen when I started the campaign with the LSK unit opreating this EF-2000, but my paint scheme appears as RAF and Service Markings as Soviet.

They are pretty normal when I'm playing as other units - in LSK livery and markings.

The same issue happens to another EGermany unit with what-if LSK Su-27 schemes.

------------And the stores available seems WAY too high even i'm on hard mode.

Any Idea?

Here's the entries of this unit in campaign inis.

[EGermanyUnit002]
UnitName=JG 7 Wilhelm Pieck
ForceID=1
UnitID=49
StartDate=06/21/2001
DescFile=d83_start.TXT
StartText=d83_start.TXT
AircraftType=Typhoon
DefaultTexture=LSK
 

[AirUnit049]
AircraftType=Typhoon
UnitName=JG 7 Wilhelm Pieck
ForceID=1
Nation=EGermany
DefaultTexture=LSK
BaseArea=D2 Airfield
RandomChance=100
MaxAircraft=18
StartAircraft=18
MaxPilots=18
StartPilots=18
Experience=100
Morale=100
Supply=100
MissionChance[SWEEP]=10
MissionChance[CAP]=10
MissionChance[INTERCEPT]=10
MissionChance[ESCORT]=10
MissionChance=80
MissionChance[CAS]=80
MissionChance[SEAD]=80
MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=20
MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=10
MissionChance[RECON]=10
UpgradeType=NEVER

 

Loriane

Edited August 13, 2021 by Loriaaaaane

[+Gepard]

EGermany as nation is limited between 1956 and 1990. Outside this timeframe the game engine does not know how to handle this nation in  a campaign. Thatswhy the unexpected markings and camos in a campaign.

[+SayethWhaaaa]

Out of curiosity, can the DDR's end date be edited in the nations.ini? I've also been playing around with the idea of using them in a post-1990 campaign...

[+Menrva]

1 hour ago, SayWhatt said:

Out of curiosity, can the DDR's end date be edited in the nations.ini?

Of course you can. You probably missed my nations expansion package which fixes stock SF2 bugs with few nations and adds missing ones. If you wish to edit start and end dates, it's all clear and open inside the global nations.ini file.

[Loriaaaaane]

17 hours ago, Gepard said:

EGermany as nation is limited between 1956 and 1990. Outside this timeframe the game engine does not know how to handle this nation in  a campaign. Thatswhy the unexpected markings and camos in a campaign.

Already removed that date thinggy before making this DDR livery.

Edited August 14, 2021 by Loriaaaaane

[+daddyairplanes]

5 hours ago, Loriaaaaane said:

Already removed that date thinggy before making this DDR livery.

in the Nations.ini file?

extract from the CAT files and place into the Flight folder of your mod folder. make your changes (it will be change of dates, not removal) there and save

[Nation017]
Name=EGermany
DisplayName=East German Air Force
Alignment=ENEMY
PilotNameList=NamesGerman.lst
RankList=RanksUSAF.lst
CallsignList=CallsignsUS.lst
Formation.Fighter=SovietFighter
Formation.Attack=SovietFighter
Formation.Bomber=SovietBomber
Formation.Transport=SovietBomber
Formation.Tank=SovietTank
Formation.MobileAD=SovietAD
PilotTrainingStandard=NORMAL
GenderRatio=0
DebriefSuccessMusic=DebriefSuccess.wav
DebriefFailMusic=DebriefFail.wav
DebriefKilledMusic=DebriefKilled.wav
SpeechFile=USAFSpeech.cat
SpeechTextFile=USAFSpeechText.str
ActiveDate=1959
AlternateDecal=EGermany_OLD55
StartDate=1956 <----------------------------------------------------- removing these two would cause problems
EndDate=1990   <----------------------------------------------------- just change this one to when ever your think the Wall will fall in your world

Edited August 14, 2021 by daddyairplanes
what alcoholics would call a moment of clarity

[Loriaaaaane]

37 minutes ago, daddyairplanes said:

in the Nations.ini file?

extract from the CAT files and place into the Flight folder of your mod folder. make your changes (it will be change of dates, not removal) there and save

[Nation017]
Name=EGermany
DisplayName=East German Air Force
Alignment=ENEMY
PilotNameList=NamesGerman.lst
RankList=RanksUSAF.lst
CallsignList=CallsignsUS.lst
Formation.Fighter=SovietFighter
Formation.Attack=SovietFighter
Formation.Bomber=SovietBomber
Formation.Transport=SovietBomber
Formation.Tank=SovietTank
Formation.MobileAD=SovietAD
PilotTrainingStandard=NORMAL
GenderRatio=0
DebriefSuccessMusic=DebriefSuccess.wav
DebriefFailMusic=DebriefFail.wav
DebriefKilledMusic=DebriefKilled.wav
SpeechFile=USAFSpeech.cat
SpeechTextFile=USAFSpeechText.str
ActiveDate=1959
AlternateDecal=EGermany_OLD55
StartDate=1956 <----------------------------------------------------- removing these two would cause problems
EndDate=1990   <----------------------------------------------------- just change this one to when ever your think the Wall will fall in your world

Changed enddate to 2200.

Still not working. :(

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The LSK units appears as correct service markings and paint schemes when im playing the campaign as other units. But when i started the campaign as LSK units the service and paint scheme goes wrong.

Edited August 14, 2021 by Loriaaaaane

[Loriaaaaane]

in userlist.ini:

[RAF]
ServiceStartYear=1998
ServiceEndYear=2050
Availability=COMMON

[EGermany]
ServiceStartYear=1998
ServiceEndYear=2050
Availability=COMMON

in data.ini:

[MissionData]
NationName=RAF
ServiceStartYear=1998
ServiceEndYear=2030
AircraftRole=FIGHTER
AircraftCapability=DAY_AND_NIGHT
Availability=COMMON
Exported=FALSE   <-----------Is this the problem?
PrimaryRoles=SWEEP,CAP,INTERCEPT,STRIKE,CAS,SEAD
SecondaryRoles=ANTI_SHIP,FAC,ARMED_RECON,RECON
NormalMissionRadius=1300
MaxMissionRadius=1700
Ceiling=16765
MinBaseSize=SMALL
Carrierbased=FALSE

 

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had a try. changing to true doesnt work.

Edited August 14, 2021 by Loriaaaaane

[+daddyairplanes]

next question

did you change the EF-2000 to Egermany as a nation? either by creating a specific one just as an east german a/c, or setting export and listing that nation in the userlist?

yes yes that is the problem. iirc, you have to put in the export availability too. there is also a line somewhere about exporting to enemy tho im having fun finding examples of that line

personally for a what if i would make a copy of the aircraft and set the nation to EGermany. no export

of particular interest.....  Did East Germany change sides in this scenario? if so, you may still want to do a new Nations ini entry to reflect blue orientation

otherwise, yes, how did the LSK come to have a fighter that was developed to counter them and their Soviet ..... allies

Edited August 14, 2021 by daddyairplanes