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It's not left out... Google 'MAME' and have fun. I own 3 classic, full-scale, restored Arcade cabinets running this program, and it's a blast. Game ROM's are sometimes hard to find, but they're out there. OvS

Holy s**te!!! I remember that show... the father is a total loon!! I recognized him when I watched the video when the balloon initally took off, and there was the father, acting all pissed off, kicking the launch frame and all.... Not the kind of reaction a concerned parent would have had. It looked kind of staged to me. They claimed there was a gondola attched to it when it rose up, but the video did not show one on it. I'd say this family is in need of some serious councelling. But the wife swap was terrible. The father was a loose cannon, and constantly pissed off, acting like a little boy, whining... all of it. I hope the law comes down on them for pulling this stunt. Those poor kids will all be brain cases later in life. OvS

Bird feeding... yes, that one too. I love seeing all the amazing colors and types in the winter on Long Island. I have a small backyard, but in the winter, it's LOADED with birds as I have 10 trees in the yard and I put out 4 feeders, 2 hanging and two on poles. I have a nice bay window my daughter sits in and watches for a few hours a day, recording all the different types she sees. It is a nice 'hobby' if you want to call it one. :) OvS

Now that we have a ton more guys in the Mess Hall... let's maybe get to know each other a little more. You never know who you're sitting next to, maybe you like the same things other than WWI. My short list: Classic Car restoration Classic Arcade Cabinet restoration Photography WWII Movies shooting ILS approachs on Flight Simulator X Working around the house... I think... OvS

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Believe me Dave, I agree with you and while I am not underestimating the enemy, I am certainly frustrated with our approach to finishing wars lately. Sure we go in, guns a blazing, kick serious butt... then we go on the 'world peace' tour of occupation, over-stay our welcome, become entrenched in local politics, and on and on. I don't think the US soldier needs to fear his enemy more than he needs to feel his government that is faltering to support him, not with modern weapons, but with sheer man-power and the unabated 'go-ahead' to pound the piss out of them. But we shall see how the Messiah handles this one... somehow I don't think 13K of support troops will help a squad 50 miles out in the hot zone, all alone. I hear the Dems have him up for the CMoH... for all the flak and bullets he took after winning the Nobel Peace Prize. OvS

Man, you're joking right... you're serious?!?!

Wow... you know, from my experiences with the 'heavies' at the airport, you can never really 'feel' how big a plane is until you have something to judge it by. Like the 747 for instance. You know it's huge, but your mind doens't grasp it until you see it from the back, heading down a taxiway, or your standing under the tail section looking up. Then suddenly it appears big. Same with the 225... up until I watched that clip of it flying at that airshow where it was doing a touch and go infront of the crowd could you really see just how big that plane is. Until it's next to something that gives your eye a reference point, you just can't grasp it. That plane is just massive... or ginormous (some kind of new word kids use in today's English language). It's a amazing that a matter of pure physics and a freak principle of nature called vacuum that enables something that enorums to get off the ground. Wow. I wonder what Orville and Wilbur would say if they could have seen that plane fly. OvS

Not sure how many 'patches' or how good the 'tech (medical) support' will be though...

Well, I guess we can break-off topic... Since Korea, we simply can't fight our enemies they way we should. My father (Korea), my uncles (Nam), my cousins (Gulf War) have all fought in respective wars of their time, and they will all tell you that. Even now, my Brother-in-Law's cousin, who's in Iraq and was in the Battle of Falluja says the same thing. We have to drop a bomb, on a target, in a small area, without any collateral damage, or sustain minimal civilian deaths/damage during a massive Sunday market, while not disturbing prayer sessions, school, the bus route... etc.. etc.. etc.. Everyone dresses the same, so you don't know who the enemy even is... they steal your uniform and wear it against you, then shoot at you from behind children and women... how do you compete with this?? You don't win wars this way. If we fought it our way, the right way as we did once before and won, the Taliban would have been exterminated a long time ago, and Al Quieda would be nothing more than a Boy Scout club. And you know I am right... MOAB anyone? Block-busters... carpet bombing??? More than 200K troops? We can't do those things because it's not fair to the civilians... ??? But I guess flying planes into unsuspecting civilian targets is. Having 150K troops in an area that is as big as half the East Coast of the USA, covered in mountainous terrain, and being shot at from all sides is not a way to win this war. Watching our guys get slaughtered because they were equipped with Humvees that had cheap armor on them, watching our guys get strung out on a limb because we don't have enough troops to support them. Using excuses like 'we're a leaner, meaner and faster Army than ever before, is just that, an excuse to avoid a mass invasion as it should have been from day 1. This enemy is your friend during the day, taking your hand-out from the back of the truck... then at night is out there wiring-up the IED you get killed by the next day. Stingers?? The least of our problems.. Obama is now flopping like a fish on a row-boat and has NO sign of any male genitalia between his legs... so it won't get any better unfortunately. He's sending what, 13K troops of mostly back-office, admin, medical, and supply staff?? All we are doing there is establishing a presence, and beating back the bad-guys now and then... we certainly are not rooting them out, or defeating them. The people of these respective foreign countries do not want us there, and want the Taliban as part of their government... they don't want American(Western) influence, products, or ideology. They live in a way that we will never understand as we left that behind in the Dark Ages. So we're trying to win a war by changing the way a populous thinks about the world, literally overnight, meanwhile they haven't changed in 1000's of years. You don't win political wars. Since 9-11, my flag has not come off my house, and at night has a spotlight shining on it, until the boys come home. Sorry to go off like this, but my family has fought for the USA (or Italy in WWI) in every war since WWI, and all I can say is that every relative that comes back from each war gets more and more bitter about fighting them. As my cousin put it in the Gulf... we weren't there to win, we were there to flex some muscle and get in a little practice on live targets. My cousin Reddin Barefoot was an Army Cobra pilot, poping tanks across the desert in Kuwait. He said it was a joke. OvS

Well I'm home and it was an IE 6 issue... so I got to see the subtitles... Oh man.. this was really funny! Wow... I'm going to close the thread, and let it go it's course... but, man, that was really funny. I don't own RoF, so I can't comment on any of it ... but man, he really tossed some digs in there. Wow... that was really good. I still think the one with the PS3 was the best though... OvS

I looked it up. It looks a lot like a Thunderchief.. and it's Chinese! They're really placing a lot of faith in their airplanes.

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/fighter-jets-Taliban-military-parade/photo//091013/photos_wl_sa_afp/efa061a637d2ff518ece0838959eb110//s:/ap/20091013/ap_on_re_as/as_pakistan I just read an article on Yahoo.com that Pakistan carried out an airstrike against Taliban militants on the border of Afghanistan.... Just what the hell do they use for planes? Mig-23's? What are these? They look kinda like F-105 Thundercheifs left over from Viet Nam. Pardon my ignorance on old Russian made fighter jets. Then again, against the Taliban, you could strafe with Fokker D.VII's they're so far in the stone age. OvS

Ever see the 224? It's even bigger... if that's possible!?!?!

As soon as I get time, I'm going to make one for us... more personal.... involving a few names on the forum that will surely bring a few laughs... OvS

Well.. I still can't see the subtitles... we're still running IE6 in this dump.. .but I get the feeling I WILL be closing this thread real soon... Funny as it might be, we need to fly higher than this. OvS

You are correct about the copywrite isses Olham, it has a lot to do with it. Also, with OFF, Winder did his best to accurately place each known aerodrome at each location, or best possible. One of the items we discussed was to possibly have specific models of certain Aerodromes that were more prevailent, or for that matter, lasted longer than the usual fly-by-night dromes did. We hope someday we can do that, it's a huge task... Also, with the dromes, there is more to it that it appears. Maybe Winder or Polovski can explain it better, but it has a lot to do with global layering, and other stuff like that. There are dromes active at certain times that should not be there, but again, this was a HUGE process for Winder to undertake and he certainly did a good job of it. Again, in the future, we hope to have dead, or destroyed dromes littering the landscape as the front shifts back and forth, then maybe those become active again.. etc. It's all something we hope to do sometime, but who knows when. My point in saying this is that to use an accurate map, and to expect to see every single detail in OFF match that map, is really stretching the seperation betweem RL and a sim. Sure, I'd love to see my house as I fly over my town in FSX, but you have to realize limits in sims... they are afterall simulations of reality. But, if we can do it, you know, we'll try. We love to push the boundry at OBD Software... OvS

No, those are clips from a song in "The Corpse Bride". The Tricky part was getting their movements to line-up with the song riffs. yes... I am back in the hanger, still painting the E.V... !!! OvS

I don't see the subtitles... All I get is the sound and video, which I noticed is from a reversed angle in this one.. ?

This is great stuff guys, and I'm going to move this thread into the Modeling, Skinning area. Someday, if I ever have more time, I'd like to try this myself. All the best, OvS

I think you hit the nail on the head on this one.

Emil Rolff actually scored that victory in an E.V, which he was prompty killed the following day when his wing collapsed... kicking off the investigation. As far as I knew, there were no D.VIII victories recorded. But this information, as well as that chart contradicts that... which we're happy about. OvS

Now that's some great info! OvS

Well, I was more focued on the facts about the timeline, and that it suggest Osterkamp was awared two kills in a Fokker D.VIII, which suggests that it returned to service in late October. Although I don't consider this info as the only source to justify my thoughts, I have to agree with it moreso than saying the Fokker D.VIII designation never saw action in WWI. As fast as they could correct that known issue, is as fast as they wanted it back in the hands of the better known, active pilots. Makes sense to me. OvS

I agree that they are definately stronger than they appear, infact, I'm sure that was a factor in a pilot's mind. But as you know, you have the liberty to decide when to fly, and pick your days good and bad. These guys did it by orders, regardless of the conditions rain, snow... etc.. Imagine flying this thing in the snow?? Nuts!!