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Thank you very much, Test Pilot! Yes, it seems I'm getting closer and closer to the colours, that suit her best. Personnaly, I find brighter colours better than very dark ones, but here are some dark, too.

It "understands" many keywords, I suppose. So, the more of them you use, the better your chances.

Hahaha! Great story, Mack! Yes, his Albatros DIII early was red, with that sign on. But he is a really nice chap, if you're not his opponent. Friendly guy with good humour. But also a very successful ace. (Thanks to "The Aerodrome" website for the picture)

The complicated game of the graphic designers (Lol!!!) But really - in our job, there often is so much to change and change again, that you can quickly overlook some bad mistakes. I know that too well.

Wolfar, I have in similar occasions put my flight member names in, PLUS: ground crew of Bertincourt airfield (for example). I can't tell, if it really helps to get accepted, but in my case, they where. Also put in: type of craft, Squadron (if known), time, location.

Field modificashionz arr vell allowed, Herr Leutnant, but "mid air modificashionss" ?!?!?! Next time you ask your Mechaniker! We need EVERY pilot - even foolz like you!!!

Great stuff, Canvas! Now, of course, I must enlist in Cappy, at the time, when the great MvR did his last flight! (Many others will have similar ideas now! Lol!!)

Makes sense - never thought about the "missing bullets" through synchronisation. So, my two guns would then fire similarly slow each, but added together, be more effective?

Found these data in Wikipedia about them: VICKERS Rate of fire: 450–600 shots per minute Caliber: 0.303 Effective range: 800 m LEWIS Rate of fire: 500-600 shots per minute Caliber: 0.303 Effective range: 1000 m

Great build, Hauksbee! And an interesting shape of a plane, and good colouring! But the left picture seems to show aircraft without pilots, and their numbers are mirrored. Secret weapons of the Luftwaffe?

As one of the members of Can-O-Worms Inc. I had to do it - sorry, WomenFly2!

Just had a tough fight with your colleagues from Esc.86 Damn hard to fight those agile craft with an Albatros, and I was lucky, it was a DIII. They where 12, coming down on us 5. A hell of a fight. (see "Reports from the front) Your question I can't answer though.

Hmmm - somehow, the pilot looks like Jammer...?

Perhaps rather some country side in Flanders or the Marne region - you could visit some of the villages where they had aerodromes, and the fresh air would do you good. PS: whereever you go - have a nice holiday, Widow!

Was that just luck, or do members of flight 1 also help, when I press "H" ? We just had a scramble. First, there where 4 R.E.8 approaching our field. When I had just climbed enough to attack them, two Brisfits came zooming from above (God - DiD Standard is tough - I hadn't noticed them before!) As I was hit and my engine damaged immediately, I pressed "H" help. And who came? The great ace Max Ritter von Mueller helped me out! Here are pictures - von Mueller's Albatros has the black and white sign on; I am the craft at the Brisfit, giving it the final punch. Has anyone else experienced getting help from flight 1 ?

More skins from Jasta 28w, Wasquehal. Albatros DIII - Erwin Wenig - 4 victories - Jasta 16, FA9b, Jastas 28w, 65 - Jafu Jasta 80b Albatros DIII - Karolus Baerenfaenger - 1 victory - Jastas 28w, 76b, Schonger

Great addition - thanks, Bullet.

Three more from Jasta 28w, Wasquehal, 1917 Albatros DIII - Karl Bolle - Victories: 36 - Jasta 2, 28, Kasta 23, KG 4 Albatros DIII - Max Ritter von Müller - Victories: 36 - FA 1, Jasta 2, 28, KEK B - KIA Jan. 1918 Albatros DIII - Franz Ray - Victories: 17 - Jasta 1, 28, 49

To add another story about colours in combat: the Germans had painted their Afrika Corps tanks in some dirty sand-like ockre. But at the various stages of sunlight, they would appear darker sometimes in front of the surrounding sand. The British found a better colour, that was looking rather absurd for a military vehicle: they chose Pink. And the Landrovers of the desert rats got the nick name "Pink Panthers". But it reflected the sunlight at any time of day so, that the vehicle fitted almost invisibly into the background.

It would be much more complex and complicated than that, WomenFly2. So, I had realised, that the underside grey-blue of German WW2 craft looked pretty dark from close on. But then I made 50x 50 cm proofs, and put them 10 m, 25 m, and 50 m away. The further away they were, the brighter and shinier they became. Also important, whether the colour was applied on metal or canvas, and if another colour was overpainted (shining through effect). And another point: in which angle to the sun the colour is seen. A colour is just a material, that reflect light of a certain frequency - very difficult to match.

Well, if you took a wrong way, and had a Qick Combat mission instead the real campaign, you could easily end up the wrong side of the line, cause in QC you can choose all this. And when it was on "German" so to say, you would fly a German craft then. I think, you could even choose other German craft as opponents there, but I'm not sure.

Hi, Dej - thanks for the link to the FS colours. In that site, it was possible to enter other numbers and check the colours as well. And so I entered the FS equivalent number for the colour RLM Red. It was almost looking the same. I have always thought, that in those early days of industy, they would only have had small variety of colours, and wouldn't have changed it much from 1918 - 1939. RLM 23 Rot (FS 31136) is almost identical to the number you sent. I believe, this is the colour, that was painted on MvR's Fokker.

I have only overflown the text, as it was rather long, but I think he only did the "factory default" things. One of his diary text said: "Overpainted numbers; stenciled new ones." but that craft on the photo is delivered to the front with a painting on it, and in such (rather rare) cases, he might well be the artist. I assume, that in those days, monitary assistance came from regional dukes, or industrial barons; like this: "Mein Kaiser - let me make my contribution to this war, by making the Empire a present of 20 Albatros fighters, from my own private whealth, to help to win the war!" Now, if we assume, the son of some duke enters some Jasta, and his dad "sponsored" his craft anyway, he might have had the right connections to get his craft pre-painted already in the factory. I hope, OvS and Paarma correct me, if they know, it wasn't possible?

Yes, Hasse Wind - we tend to imagine those early cultures as far less developed, and those ages as darker, than they really where. The Romans already had floor heating in their villas. And at the time of Hermann/Armin, which was the same time as Jesus', there was a wide span of trade and shipping - I often think, the world wasn't that much different from today. And how much would one find from our cultures, 2000 years later?

Dudley - do you know any links to the colour reference you mention? I can't find any. Does anyone know, what the seat metal is? Is it steel? And how much bulletproof would that be? (Or not...)