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If you noticed Sir, I was not talking about planes (until now A.I. planes and stock planes didn't disappear from where I put them) , a modified HANGARSCREEN.INI file disappeared which is different. Do you have an explanation for that from experience ?

I understand what you are saying. In this case what source can one rely on ? It's a pertinent/fair question for me now. I think you will agree that not everyone is ex pilot, worked in military aviation industry or have a military pilot friend, to know all these better than anyone else, right ? Tweaking my planes has to rely on real information otherwise I can't see why I should do it anymore.

I found additional sources which confirms , except the Mavericks , the wikipaedia Kfir C2 loadout. Please take a look. https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=152 This one confirms/supports 100% what Wikipaedia says: https://military-wiki.com/iai-kfir-the-lion-cub-of-israel/ By the way , how do you know that Wikipaedia is wrong ? What is your argument except that YOU think that they are wrong ? I am just asking to be able to make an opinion about the whole thing. Also could you indicate a source which supports your saying ?

Bother to elaborate your answer ? :)

You missundestood me. I was not asking about how a certain weapon ends up there after a certain date (that thing I understood long ago). I was asking a different thing: what were those setting TITLES doing there and how do they work. As you noticed Wrench just slapped me without letting me know WHY they are there and how a STRIKE_NAVAL_CRUISE_MISSILE work with those settings exactly. Maybe you can explain that to me or maybe Wrench will have a change of heart which is a fat chance in my case :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Kfir Specifications (Kfir C2) An IAI Kfir with its typical weapon loadout as displayed at the Israeli Air Force Museum, Hatzerim Airbase Data from Jane's All The World's Aircraft 1982–83[52] General characteristics Crew: 1 Length: 15.65 m (51 ft 4 in) Wingspan: 8.22 m (27 ft 0 in) Height: 4.55 m (14 ft 11 in) Wing area: 34.8 m2 (375 sq ft) Airfoil: 3.5&[53] Empty weight: 7,285 kg (16,061 lb) Gross weight: 11,603 kg (25,580 lb) Max takeoff weight: 16,200 kg (35,715 lb) Powerplant: 1 × IAl Bedek-built General Electric J79-J1E turbojet, 52.9 kN (11,900 lbf) thrust dry, 79.62 kN (17,900 lbf) with afterburner Performance Maximum speed: 2,440 km/h (1,520 mph, 1,320 kn) above 11,000 m (36,089 ft) Maximum speed: Mach 2 Combat range: 768 km (477 mi, 415 nmi) (ground attack, hi-lo-hi profile, seven 227 kg (500 lb) bombs, two AAMs, two 1,300 l (340 US gal; 290 imp gal) drop tanks) Service ceiling: 17,680 m (58,010 ft) Rate of climb: 233 m/s (45,900 ft/min) Armament Guns: 2× Rafael-built 30 mm (1.18 in) DEFA 553 cannon with 140 rpg Rockets: assortment of unguided air-to-ground rockets including the Matra JL-100 drop tank/rocket pack, each with 19× SNEB 68 mm rockets and 66 US gallons (250 liters) of fuel Missiles: 2× AIM-9 Sidewinders or Shafrir or Python-series AAMs; 2× Shrike ARMs; 2× AGM-65 Maverick ASMs Bombs: 5,775 kg (12,732 lb) of payload on nine external hardpoints, including bombs such as the Mark 80 series, Paveway series of LGBs, Griffin LGBs, SMKBs,[54] TAL-1 OR TAL-2 CBUs, BLU-107 Matra Durandal, reconnaissance pods or Drop tanks

Nope, It's not that, I checked, GBU-12D for instance is 2.25 length and 275Kg. Also diameter is not specified on wing so it works any value here.

I noticed that stock Kfir C2 has in its data.ini file, on wings, a LGB setting, which is consistent with the real potential of the real Kfir C2 of carrying it and deploy it but...looking into Kfir C2 avionics.ini file, there is no "trace" of TV support for that. Also on its wings settings there is no LP device specified. Is this a slip or is it just me ? I looked into SF1 Kfir C2 files and checked, it works for both Mavericks and LGBs with some modifications into its avionics.ini file. I tried the same trick into SF2 Kfir C2 and it doesn't work for LGBs, it works for Mavericks only. Any suggestions ? Real Kfir C2 carried Mavericks and Shrikes too, I checked. [ShoulderStationL] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=5 StationGroupID=4 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-0.89,1.99,-0.72 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,20.0 LoadLimit=500 LengthLimit=2.5 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,LGB AttachmentType=NATO,FRANCE,UK,ISRAEL ModelNodeName=shoulder_pylon_L PylonMass=18.0 PylonDragArea=0.02 [ShoulderStationR] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=6 StationGroupID=4 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition= 0.89,1.99,-0.72 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,-20.0 LoadLimit=500 LengthLimit=2.5 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,LGB AttachmentType=NATO,FRANCE,UK,ISRAEL ModelNodeName=shoulder_pylon_R PylonMass=18.0 PylonDragArea=0.02

Even if they are put outside the Program Files x86 folder ? I thought that outside if I make a custom mod folder there would be no interferrence of any kind. Am I wrong ?

In a SF2 YAK-41M Loadout.ini file I found these lines: [StrikeLongRange] Loadout[01].WeaponType=AA-11B Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=AA-11B Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=FAB500_M62 Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=FAB500_M62 Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[13].WeaponType=YAK-41FT Loadout[13].Quantity=1 [StrikeNaval_95] StartDefaultDate=1995 DefaultFor=STRIKE_NAVAL,CRUISE_MISSILE Loadout[03].WeaponType=Kh-35 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=Kh-35 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[11].WeaponType=Kh-35 Loadout[11].Quantity=1 Loadout[12].WeaponType=Kh-35 Loadout[12].Quantity=1 [StrikeNavalLongRange_95] StartDefaultDate=1995 DefaultFor=STRIKE_NAVAL,CRUISE_MISSILE Loadout[01].WeaponType=AA-12 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=AA-12 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[11].WeaponType=Kh-35 Loadout[11].Quantity=1 Loadout[12].WeaponType=Kh-35 Loadout[12].Quantity=1 Loadout[13].WeaponType=YAK-41FT Loadout[13].Quantity=1 and in its DATA ini file I found this: PrimaryRoles=INTERCEPT,SWEEP,CAS,CAP SecondaryRoles=ANTI_SHIP,STRIKE,ESCORT,RECON,CRUISE_MISSILE My question is: are these setings working ? And if they do what exactly should I expect ? If the antiship missile mechanic won't work in SF2 why do I see ASM setting on wings data ini files in some planes? What does "loadout" game's engine (interpret) when it sees this setting ?

Oh I see, now it's clear. Thank you.

Did the SF2 game engine integrate Antiship missile "mechanic" or is the same SF1 CGR missile type thing I have to use ? If it did integrate the antiship missile mechanic, should I use ASM on wings for loading ?

wow I didn't know that this kind of effects were possible here. Anyone has some pictures from in game to have a look to this gorgeous ?

Yeah, I did some thorough dig and you are right. The sustainer motor work in conjunction with the delay factors and heat seeking missile don't have any so that is why I can't get the effect (and yes I already admitted, I know that in reality heat seeking missile don't fall prior to their launch). It's simple , I couldn't see it from the first time. Sorry, my fault. However thank you for open my eyes on the matter.

I very doubt that friend. What system do you have ? What OS do you use? Could you tell me on components what you've got ?

So you mean that the weapons editor settings (the delays parameters I couldtweak ) are ignored directly by the game's engine which is set to make the effect of heat seeking missile directly from the programming lines only ? You know that for sure or are you just guessing ?

All of them. I tried the AIM-9 range and some Russians A-8 and A-8B PS - Have you notice my reply in Willie Pete thread ?

One of the first things I liked in this Strike Fighter series sim was the realistic way missiles fall before turning on their motor and spring forward. Things, through weapon editor, could be set nicely in SF1 series. I thought I can do that, too, in SF2 weapon editor, but no matter the delay or booster parameters fixed by me, the heat seeking missile just springs forward without falling first. Can anyone tell me how can I set the missile to fall first before turning its motor on please ? I noticed thtat Sparrows work just fine when I set these parameters for falling.Thank you. PS - I know that heat seeking missiles are faster and they don't technical fall like heavier ones.

Does files (ini files) disappear in SF2 after you modify them ? I ask that because I recently modified the hangarscreen.ini to allow SF1 usual sounds. After a few days I noticed I didn't have ay sounds in hangar screen in the game anymore. I went to menu folder and discovered that my hangarscreen.ini file was gone! I had to recopy it again and modify it, in order to work as I wanted. Is it me or these things really happens ?

Thanks a lot! Just a question if you please, are these for SF1 ? I ask that because I saw lines for SF1 shaders inside the files. Or should I just "adjust" the shaders puting "ter" in front of the shaders name ? Or do they work anyway in SF2 with older settings for SF1 ? PS - Also noticed that ini files were saved in ANSI onstead of Unicode as it should in SF2

I encountered in some weapon packs some entries for the MISSILEOBJECT.INI file, but the effects were not there, there were just the entries for them: GroundHitEffectName=WilliePeteGroundExplosion GroundHitEffectName=GreenWilliePeteGroundExplosion GroundHitEffectName=RedWilliePeteGroundExplosion GroundHitEffectName=YellowWilliePeteGroundExplosion Additionally I encountered this entry , too: GroundHitEffectName=RocketSmokeMarkerEffect EffectClassName=FlechetteRocketEffects EffectClassName=InertRocketEffects I checked the weapons SF2 download section and I couldn't find them. Doesn anyone have them (the respective effect ini files) or tell me where I can find them please ? Thank you.

I see, now it makes sense. However if you ever want a smooth smoke effect just buzz me. Cheers!

I learn everyday how divers is the world/people. You want a trail smoke to stay longer, I use a smooth smoke trail because I think that the stock one is inconsistent and ugly.

Thanks. That is the POWER of knowledge when you KNOW something that others don't.