Mirage IIIEP Pakistan Air Force

[+ghostrider883 526]

Based on Mirage Factory's French Mirage IIIE. Skin is a re-work of ludo.m54's skin.

 

Skin and the mod(for the Indo-Pak install) is meant to represent Pakistani Mirage IIIEPs that took part in the 1971 Indo-Pak War and has a complete decals set for all 18 PAF Mirage IIIEPs.

 

No. 5 Sqdn PAF "Falcons" flew the Mirage IIIEP in the 1971 war( 18 airframes)

 

Now a couple questions.

1) Can the antenna marked as "A" be somehow removed using some ini trick? It is the only antenna that was not present on PAF Mirage IIIEPs.

2) Can the bulge marked as "B" be removed? If it can be, it can be used to represent Ex-RAAF Mirage IIIOs that the PAF acquired in the 90s.

 

Edited July 12, 2012 by ghostrider883

[Lazarus1177 164]

Great mod!But,could you use a better pilot figure or texture?PAF pilots never wore the orange flight suit but an olive green one.Also,if you are planning on making the Version used by our navy,then make sure that the underside has a sky blue shade.Aside from these,I can't wait for this mod!And on a side-note,which cockpit are you going to go with?

 

 

 

 

 

[+ghostrider883 526]

Great mod!But,could you use a better pilot figure or texture?PAF pilots never wore the orange flight suit but an olive green one.

 

Thanks for pointing that out. I was using the default pilot that came with the original Mirage IIIE mod.

 

Also,if you are planning on making the Version used by our navy,then make sure that the underside has a sky blue shade.

 

The version you are referring to is the Mirage 5PA3( Agave radar & Exocet equipped derivative of the Mirage 5). It is a completely different model compared to the Mirage IIIE(P). There is a Mirage 5PA mod for SF2, I have to see if it can be modded into a Mirage 5PA2 and 5PA3.

 

And on a side-note,which cockpit are you going to go with?

 

The Mirage Factory Mirage IIIE pit that came along with the model.

Edited July 12, 2012 by ghostrider883

[Lazarus1177 164]

Thanks for the reply and good luck!

[Svetlin 540]

For part "B" try adding this in the aircraft's *_data.ini file:

[AircraftData]

..............

Component[008]=Doppler

 

[Doppler]

ParentComponentName=Fuselage

ModelNodeName=Doppler_ok

DestroyedNodeName=Doppler

DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE

HasAeroCoefficients=FALSE

 

For the antenna, I must look for the proper node name, I have no idea right now.

[+Coupi 4,379]

For "A",

 

Try this:

 

[AircraftData]

..............

Component[009]=DeleteAntenna1

 

[DeleteAntenna1]

ParentComponentName=Nose

ModelNodeName=vhf

DestroyedNodeName=vhf

DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE

HasAeroCoefficients=FALSE

 

Very good project!!!

 

Coupi.

Edited July 12, 2012 by Coupi

[+ghostrider883 526]

Thanks Svetlin & Coupi, That did it .

 

 

 

 

[Wrench 9,801]

also, for the RAAF version, check out the avionics ini on the III0's that I did. it's a mixture of the 3 variants the RAAF used (kinda sorta)

 

http://combatace.com/files/file/11967-dassault-mirage-iiio-raaf/

[+ghostrider883 526]

also, for the RAAF version, check out the avionics ini on the III0's that I did. it's a mixture of the 3 variants the RAAF used (kinda sorta)

 

http://combatace.com/files/file/11967-dassault-mirage-iiio-raaf/

 

Will do .

 

After deletion of a couple of antennas(thanks to Svetlin, Coupi and mppd), this is a just about perfect represenation of the PAF Mirage IIIEP.

Mirage IIIEP No.5 Sqdn PAF "Falcons":

 

 

Mirage IIIEA( not to be confused with Argentine Mirage III). "EA" was the designation given by the Pakistanis to Ex-RAAF Mirage IIIOs acquired by PAF in the 90s. Complete will all serial numbers of PAF Mirage IIIEAs(42 airframes).

 

Mirage IIIEA No.7 Sqdn PAF "Bandits":

Edited July 13, 2012 by ghostrider883

[+paulopanz 2,875]

Fantastic job Sandesh!

 

I'ld have its little brother to finish up too ...

 

 

.... do you ever have some references/badges to use?

 

[+ghostrider883 526]

Fantastic job Sandesh!

 

I'ld have its little brother to finish up too ...

 

 

.... do you ever have some references/badges to use?

 

 

Paulo, that is nice, as always .

 

Which PAF Mirage 5 variant are you trying to mod? 5PA, 5PA2 or 5PA3? Based on that I could point you to reference & serial numbers . We already have a Mirage 5PA( the radar less first batch of Mirage 5PAs acquired by PAF - http://combatace.com/files/file/10700-dassault-mirage-5pa-pakistan-air-force/).

 

Radar equipped PAF Mirage 5PA2 & 5PA3 variants are the ones we don't have and from your screenies, 5PA2 and/or 5PA3 mods looks like a real possibility.

 

The 5PA is radarless. The 5PA2 is equipped with Thomson-CSF Cyano radar, while the 5PA3 is equipped with the Thomson-CSF Agave radar and is used primarily in the maritime strike role(capable of firing AM-39 Exocets).

 

5PA2:

 

5PA3:

Edited July 13, 2012 by ghostrider883

[Lazarus1177 164]

Our only Mirages which are still in service are the III EP and the 5PA3 Variants(both Upgraded under Project ROSE).By 2015,they will all be replaced by the JF-17B.

[+ghostrider883 526]

Our only Mirages which are still in service are the III EP and the 5PA3 Variants(both Upgraded under Project ROSE).By 2015,they will all be replaced by the JF-17B.

 

Not entirely true.

 

No.7 Sqdn operational on Mirage IIIEA Rose I ( ex-RAAF, aircraft no 90-583 from this sqdn was used for A2A refuelling tests)

 

No.8 Sqdn operational on Mirage 5PA2/3

 

No.15 Sqn operational on Mirage 5PA Rose II

 

No. 22 Sqdn operates ex-Mirage IIIELs( ex-Lebanese) in OCU role

 

No. 25 Sqdn operational on Mirage 5EF Rose III(ex-French)

 

No. 27 Sqdn operational on Mirage 5EF Rose III(ex-French)

 

CCS operates a mix of Mirage IIIs and Vs.

 

No.5 Sqdn was operational on a mix on IIIEPs, IIIEA, 5PA an trainers until 2010 when the yconverrted to F-16C/D Blk 52.

 

** All operational sqdn are equipped with Mirage Trainers also.

**EPs are not in service today and were never upgraded to ROSE standards.

Edited July 16, 2012 by ghostrider883

[Wrench 9,801]

since the PA2 and PA3 don't have (or need) the undernose doppler fairing, what about using the stock 3W Mirage5, either the D or F? It's sure save time and effort, FM wise, using those already at the latest standard.

I"ll have to cross-look at them in game...but it should be very doable

 

just a thought!

Edited July 16, 2012 by Wrench

[+NeverEnough 78]

Another big plus on the TW 5D and 5F, is that Ludo just posted his hi res skin templates in the download section!

[Wrench 9,801]

the other question is ...

 

what sort of cockpit upgrades were performed on the PA2 and PA3??? I have some "things" up my sleeve...but they may be a bit too modern....

[+paulopanz 2,875]

Well, these are my WIPS [58 planes delivered/modded]

 

Mirage 5PA [original Sandesh decalset]

 

 

Mirage 5PA2/3 [whole new decalset]

 

 

 

 

 

original temps by Ludo, scenario by Wrench ....

Edited July 16, 2012 by paulopanz

[Wrench 9,801]

Sandesh, to answer you queston on the nose probe, yes!

 

Paulo, here's the version I'd been working on before I knew about yours ... 5PA2 (w/Rose II i think!). I was using the stock 5D lod, as that's readily available to all with SF2I and/or Full 4/5 merged installs.

 

be glad to share what I've got! (meaning: your skins are nicer!! )

(should have took the shot with the canopy open, and the light on, drat!)

Edited July 18, 2012 by Wrench

[+ghostrider883 526]

Sandesh, to answer you queston on the nose probe, yes!

 

Paulo, here's the version I'd been working on before I knew about yours ... 5PA2 (w/Rose II i think!). I was using the stock 5D lod, as that's readily available to all with SF2I and/or Full 4/5 merged installs.

 

be glad to share what I've got! (meaning: your skins are nicer!! )

(should have took the shot with the canopy open, and the light on, drat!)

 

That is certianly looking much closer to the 5PA2/3 than what I had initially imagined

[+strahi 1,058]

Can someone tell me the name of the pitot tube (mesh name) Mirage5BA_80, I want to remove it.

 

Thanks in advance.

Edited July 27, 2012 by strahi

[Stratos 3,188]

Shouldn't be easy to add the Mirage V under nose doppler fairing using the fake pilot method?

[Wrench 9,801]

or use a LODL that already has one??? Why work harder, when you can work SMARTER???

[Stratos 3,188]

No idea of what model are you talking about Wrench.