Sorry, yet ANOTHER set of questions (although this time hopefully less stupid)

[F5TigerIIGuy]

Ok so, I was thinking, would an Ekranoplan be feasible? I don't have a model so it won't happen from me but I feel it'd just take making a very low agility aircraft with good thrust and lift but a service ceiling of like, a few meters. While. technically not actual ground effect, could be close enough for the purposes of this game. Also, with helicopters, has anyone considered like giving them invisible VTOL nozzles and TVC so they can hover/fly in weird ways like real choppers?

I would test these out but I'm gonna be fully honest I'd probably break something (and have no 3d models at my disposal, like, I technically have access to like World of Warplanes models and War Thunder models, but I'd rather not like use them as "my own" work, and would rather just like look at their geometry and marvel at how cool they are. I'd feel bad editing them. Ig any specific places that have good aircraft models? I know the usual suspects but if you all have any like obscure sites you can direct me to that'd be sweet, thanks.)

[F5TigerIIGuy]

7 minutes ago, F5TigerIIGuy said:

Ok so, I was thinking, would an Ekranoplan be feasible? I don't have a model so it won't happen from me but I feel it'd just take making a very low agility aircraft with good thrust and lift but a service ceiling of like, a few meters. While. technically not actual ground effect, could be close enough for the purposes of this game. Also, with helicopters, has anyone considered like giving them invisible VTOL nozzles and TVC so they can hover/fly in weird ways like real choppers?

I would test these out but I'm gonna be fully honest I'd probably break something (and have no 3d models at my disposal, like, I technically have access to like World of Warplanes models and War Thunder models, but I'd rather not like use them as "my own" work, and would rather just like look at their geometry and marvel at how cool they are. I'd feel bad editing them. Ig any specific places that have good aircraft models? I know the usual suspects but if you all have any like obscure sites you can direct me to that'd be sweet, thanks.)

Also is there an alternate link to the RF-4X conformal tanks? Not really related but I have the thing mostly assembled from the F-4E(S) and am gonna do the ini edits now that I have the time, and just need CFTs which is inconvenient when the link takes me to this site's version of a 404

*Note: Have searched this site's Phantom downloads for comparable CFTs I could graft on and just pretend they're the original tanks but I'm blind or there isn't one.

Edited Tuesday at 01:32 AM by F5TigerIIGuy
My wording sucks lmao sorry, little note added

[daddyairplanes]

On 3/23/2026 at 9:23 PM, F5TigerIIGuy said:

Ok so, I was thinking, would an Ekranoplan be feasible? 

Also, with helicopters, has anyone considered like giving them invisible VTOL nozzles and TVC so they can hover/fly in weird ways like real choppers?

Ekranoplan, i could swear someone had one set up some time ago. but their release was a mega install with alot of questionable (re: probably pirated) mods so it hasnt gotten too far 

still, i'd think of it more as an AI to target than a player flyable. but thats me...

for helo's talk to yakarov79 and guruu. the masters of SF2 rotary and iirc guruu set up an improved flight model for helos in general for the ODS30AE mod

 

Edited Wednesday at 02:34 PM by daddyairplanes

[Flanker562]

Look man, there's no need to put topics like this, with those kind of titles. Granted some members are testy and snap, but we try to have a collegiate atmosphere where we help each other. Just watch out for ornery people like Wrench, he's old so it's a given. But you shouldn't have to feel afraid to ask a question. I've been playing since SF1 and still don't know shit about the game, or even SF2 (I just don't deal with modding that much, mainly Arma 3 I mod), so if you got a question, and if you haven't seen it in the Knowledge Base, ask!

[F5TigerIIGuy]

5 minutes ago, Flanker562 said:

Look man, there's no need to put topics like this, with those kind of titles. Granted some members are testy and snap, but we try to have a collegiate atmosphere where we help each other. Just watch out for ornery people like Wrench, he's old so it's a given. But you shouldn't have to feel afraid to ask a question. I've been playing since SF1 and still don't know shit about the game, or even SF2 (I just don't deal with modding that much, mainly Arma 3 I mod), so if you got a question, and if you haven't seen it in the Knowledge Base, ask!

Fair enough I was more worried about the volume of questions I was asking tbh

[F5TigerIIGuy]

51 minutes ago, daddyairplanes said:

Ekranoplan, i could swear someone had one set up some time ago. but their release was a mega install with alot of questionable (re: probably pirated) mods so it hasnt gotten too far 

still, i'd think of it more as an AI to target than a player flyable. but thats me...

for helo's talk to yakarov79 and guruu. the masters of SF2 rotary and iirc guruu set up an improved flight model for helos in general for the ODS30AE mod

 

The Beriev 25000 Neptun? I think that was the name? Gonna be honest I completely forgot that was a thing on this site, does it actually work??? Or are you referring to something else.

Also I know there’s working tiltrotors but I probably haven’t played around with proper helos enough (but I know the ones I have tried somewhat work. Have yet to really properly mess around with Yakarov’s helos though, so will definitely do that soon)

[Flanker562]

2 minutes ago, F5TigerIIGuy said:

Fair enough I was more worried about the volume of questions I was asking tbh

No, not all of us (even the older game veterans) know everything about the game, and even they're finding out. I mean we're here to mod and learn, not shit on people because they ask.

[F5TigerIIGuy]

41 minutes ago, Flanker562 said:

No, not all of us (even the older game veterans) know everything about the game, and even they're finding out. I mean we're here to mod and learn, not shit on people because they ask.

You have a point, thank you by the way. I will say it's nice being on a more friendly and approachable forum.

[Flanker562]

9 minutes ago, F5TigerIIGuy said:

You have a point, thank you by the way. I will say it's nice being on a more friendly and approachable forum.

I've been both a moderator and user for years my man, it's one of the most chill places I've been to in regards to gaming, so I'm glad you like it.

[F5TigerIIGuy]

7 hours ago, Flanker562 said:

I've been both a moderator and user for years my man, it's one of the most chill places I've been to in regards to gaming, so I'm glad you like it.

Actually wait, completely unrelated and more of a very simple yes/no question but, does anyone you know of happen to have an XF5U model? It’d be a pretty cool what-if for the 40s-60s era

I’d imagine it seeing service in the last few days of the Pacific during WW2 as its base heavy fighter variant (yes I know it actually flew in 1946 but it’s cooler to imagine it in WW2), then as a night fighter and carrier AEW in Korea, and then finally as an electronic warfare and AEW bird over Vietnam (before they’d either be put into museums… or sold to Dhimar…)

Honestly I could see it being pretty cool for Dhimar, it and the “F-79” (that USAF Ho 229 in the SF1 section) as like imports of the Late 40s in part to counter Parani Strategic Bombers (which I can picture being German in origin, like Greifs and modified 111s, for some reason) and some of their more advanced Soviet birds or something.

[daddyairplanes]

9 hours ago, F5TigerIIGuy said:

The Beriev 25000 Neptun? I think that was the name? Gonna be honest I completely forgot that was a thing on this site, does it actually work??? Or are you referring to something else.

Also I know there’s working tiltrotors but I probably haven’t played around with proper helos enough (but I know the ones I have tried somewhat work. Have yet to really properly mess around with Yakarov’s helos though, so will definitely do that soon)

not sure if that was it, although what i was talking about was a mega install (couple campaigns, lots of stuff spanning eras). again, dude had alot of sketchy models in there, so it got yanked after a few days

there is a V-22 on site, and like 80% of the helos on here are yakarov's babies. Dels did the Apache, idunno as to the Hips and Hinds

as to the questions, so long as youre learning and its not the same question over and over, you'll be fine

your bar tab starts on the third time you ask why your bmp's dont work

[F5TigerIIGuy]

7 minutes ago, daddyairplanes said:

not sure if that was it, although what i was talking about was a mega install (couple campaigns, lots of stuff spanning eras). again, dude had alot of sketchy models in there, so it got yanked after a few days

there is a V-22 on site, and like 80% of the helos on here are yakarov's babies. Dels did the Apache, idunno as to the Hips and Hinds

as to the questions, so long as youre learning and its not the same question over and over, you'll be fine

your bar tab starts on the third time you ask why your bmp's dont work

Honestly, speaking of BMPs I’m glad I asked because now I realized GIMP will sometimes automatically export in a specific version of BMP that SF2 does not support (because, of course it would), that solves a lot when it comes to skins being janky and is something I’ll 100% keep in mind in the future.

(and, speaking of skins, I was thinking of getting some WW2 Aircraft into Paran’s Arsenal, just been scouring the site for templates and coming up with camo patterns first.)

Edited Thursday at 12:58 AM by F5TigerIIGuy

[daddyairplanes]

do consider using jpg instead, especially if its not stock (or otherwise very old model)

you can make it larger and still have smaller file size. and  someone once told me: for the same size, using  jpgs in upto a dozen skin folders will still take up less space than doing a universal bmp in the main aircraft folder.  WAY WAY less space if youre putting bmps into individual folders

however as said elsewhere, i have run into situations where i had to use bmp, so its good to know how to play with them too

[Wrench]

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does anyone you know of happen to have an XF5U model?

From 2010. But the model was never completed, and is seriously fucked up. Without the MAX files, we can't do shit with it. As the builder is long gone from the community, and WW2 modding has gone the way of all flesh ... it's doubtful anything new will ever appear. I should know. I carried WW2 modding almost by myself for nearly 10 years ..

 

[Jimbib]

10 hours ago, daddyairplanes said:

not sure if that was it, although what i was talking about was a mega install (couple campaigns, lots of stuff spanning eras). again, dude had alot of sketchy models in there, so it got yanked after a few days

there is a V-22 on site, and like 80% of the helos on here are yakarov's babies. Dels did the Apache, idunno as to the Hips and Hinds

as to the questions, so long as youre learning and its not the same question over and over, you'll be fine

your bar tab starts on the third time you ask why your bmp's dont work

I think Marcfighter did the Hip and YEYEYE did the hind

[Coupi]

I remember the "Beta Minus" Vought Cutlass by Marcfighters... very interesting plane to fly with SF2. 

https://combatace.com/forums/topic/67117-f7u-3m-cutlass-by-marcfighters/#comment-518233

 

[daddyairplanes]

12 hours ago, Jimbib said:

and YEYEYE did the hind

theres a name not heard in a while. i remember doing skins (ala tga of course) for his 757 way back