Bombers VS Fighters

[Falcon161 3]

I've shotten down a couple of MIG's when I was in a thud. But I've also shotten down thuds when I was in a MIG-25.

[JediMaster 451]

The old B-17 sims from MPS had missions that were hours long. You could time compress, of course. Take off from England, circle while your squadron forms up, fly out, over the Channel/North Sea, into enemy airspace...braving flak and/or fighters until your IP, line up with the Norden, drop, turn for home and back all the way to England...hoping your gear still works, you're in one piece, and you don't crash.

[Emp_Palpatine 501]

In the old Aces of the Pacific, you can have an entire tour of duty in bomber squadrons, flying Vals, Dauntless or event poor weaponless japanese torpedo bomber whose name I forgot.

It was some of the sweaty memories I have! Being catched up by heavily armored P40 while having only a rear gunner... This sort of tour of duty were often over after the first non escorted bombing run.

But I do remember a Val/judy campaign where I survived until 44, just to get shoot down during Philippina reconquest...

 

In Wings series, I do enjoy making bombing runs, especially CAS. OTC, or Middle East wars rocks for such missions.

[bucklehead101 29]

I have shot down a MiG-29 with a OV-10. We must have been flying circles for almost 10 minutes before i brought him down.

[Lt. James Cater 62]

Personally, i've never even gotten close to getting a Mig in my sights.

 

Whenever they have been around it's been on vectors that weren't the greatest for an intercept considering the speed and direction we were going at.

 

When in doubt, dropping the nose and hitting the burner does wonders for getting away from MIGs

[rhugouvi 0]

Recce pilots are the ones whose contribution is the most important towards victory, even if it's a pretty low-profile one.

Without them, history makers wouldn't know where to drop their ordinance on what, and without BDA, they wouldn't know if they have to go for a second run.

 

"Unarmed, Unafraid and Overlooked"

[+Nightshade/PR 7,928]

For me, it's Attack Fighters off a carrier. Those missions are always into enemy territory, usually in 1-2's (sometimes a 4-ship) and into places where the defenses are known to be vicious. In addition, you have to balance ordinance and fuel, knowing everything on the way in and out will try and kill you. There's usually fighters in the area, sam's are awake, the guns are hot, and even when it all goes right and you succeed, you have to get home.

Any attack pilot in any Navy, should never have to buy a drink in any club. EVER.

[Lt. James Cater 62]

For me, it's Attack Fighters off a carrier. Those missions are always into enemy territory, usually in 1-2's (sometimes a 4-ship) and into places where the defenses are known to be vicious. In addition, you have to balance ordinance and fuel, knowing everything on the way in and out will try and kill you. There's usually fighters in the area, sam's are awake, the guns are hot, and even when it all goes right and you succeed, you have to get home.

Any attack pilot in any Navy, should never have to buy a drink in any club. EVER.

 

To a certain point, thats my premise.

 

You can't get the bombs on the target from miles away , unlike "fighter" puke who can track and shoot a missle from an infinity away. My only diagreement is that Navy guys have it easier since their carriers are right off the coast. Try nursing a shot up Thud all the way back to Thailand and you will understand what it means to be under SEVERE pressure.

[Lt. James Cater 62]

Recce pilots are the ones whose contribution is the most important towards victory, even if it's a pretty low-profile one.

Without them, history makers wouldn't know where to drop their ordinance on what, and without BDA, they wouldn't know if they have to go for a second run.

 

"Unarmed, Unafraid and Overlooked"

 

I'm not sure if there is a mod for it but i'm going to look. I would absolutly love to do a tour as a Recce pilot. Absolutly great chance to Voodoos, Vigilantes, or Crusaders!

[FastCargo 412]

All airpower is subject to the overall political objectives of the fight.

 

The majority of conflicts require destruction of ground targets, either in direct support of ground forces, or as part of a larger strategic objective. ALL efforts are in support of destruction of those said targets, from the guy doing a FOD check of the ramp to the tanker pilot patiently waiting in orbit.

 

That being said, how quickly do the objectives not get met if the iron doesn't hit the target? You can do a bombing mission without air cover, SEAD, recon, FAC, tankers, AWACS, etc. Now, that will obviously impact your mission effectiveness and attrition rates to high levels. But the overall air support of the ground objectives stops as soon as the iron stops dropping.

 

FastCargo

[+Jug 99]

Recce pilots are the ones whose contribution is the most important towards victory, even if it's a pretty low-profile one.

Without them, history makers wouldn't know where to drop their ordinance on what, and without BDA, they wouldn't know if they have to go for a second run.

 

"Unarmed, Unafraid and Overlooked"

 

I've always heard that the fighter/attack pukes go in in groups of four, armed to the teeth, and scared s***less. Recce drivers go in alone, unarmed, and unafraid.

 

Recce drivers are smooth as glass

and their b***s are made of brass

When they encounter stormy weather

their b***s clang together

And lightning shoots out their a**

 

Look around the pilot's bar at the backside of flight suits. Fighter boys have a collection of skid marks. Recce guys sport blast marks.

 

Recce rules! Try a YAP recce mission on for size and when your pulse returns to normal you will know what I mean.

[Viggen 644]

Most of the time, say if I'm flying an F-4 or some other tactical fighter on a Fighter Sweep in WOE I'll take some bombs or rockets along to attack a runway or AAA/SAMs when I'm flying low in a dogfight. In the WOE campaign I've had situations where me; in an F-15A have had to do CAS during a Fighter Sweep or even an intercept!