+Dave 2,321 Posted May 5, 2007 are LLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FOTF 0 Posted May 5, 2007 I second that. My 12 hour shifts are done solo. I am the only one there for 12 hours straight. Talk about long! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dave 2,321 Posted May 5, 2007 I second that. My 12 hour shifts are done solo. I am the only one there for 12 hours straight. Talk about long! I got another controller with in case WWIII starts. But alone would suck big time! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dagger 21 Posted May 6, 2007 when I was running rescue I worked a 24 hour shift..24 on/48 off,talk about long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FOTF 0 Posted May 6, 2007 Yeah...I think that takes the cake. I work 3 on/4 off so it isn't too bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldog 0 Posted May 6, 2007 Try 16hr shifts several days a week...needless to say I'm looking for another job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tazkiller Posted May 6, 2007 Try 10 plus hours a day. Working with women, with attitudes that make P.M.S, seem like Christmas Day!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Fates 63 Posted May 6, 2007 are LLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG! Try being the guy you work with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Erik 1,768 Posted May 6, 2007 Try being the guy you work with. Fates 1 | USAFMTL 0 Besides it's not like they're on a tank crew. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dave 2,321 Posted May 6, 2007 Fates 1 | USAFMTL 0 Besides it's not like they're on a tank crew. Ha ha very funny. However there isnt alot of space in this Command Post. 4 crew positions. 2 MOC controllers and 2 EA controllers. But the MOC isnt always there. When I was a TI, in 1995 I worked 271 days in a row averaged over 15 hours a day. Being a rookie basic training instructor was hell. That was a year I didn't think was ever going to end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firehawkordy 34 Posted May 6, 2007 are LLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG! I'll ask my son in Iraq if a twelve hour shift is long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk MMS 0 Posted May 6, 2007 We work 12 hours 0600-1800 2 days and then 1800-0600 for two nights then off for 4 days Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+drdoyo 2 Posted May 6, 2007 Hey Bulldog, you sound like an airline pilot. For Me, ... Fed Aviation Regs (FAR) say No flight time may be schedualed more than 8 hours, but can go over due to circumstances (weather, ATC delays, etc) if the flight was already started. No duty day may exceed 16 hours for any reason. Company policy.... No duty day may be schedualed longer than 14 hours, but may be extended to not more than 16 hours due to reasons beyond company control (weather, maintenance, ATC delays, etc.) What this means.... a schedualed 8 hour day of flying = roughly 14-16 hours of duty I only get paid if the left engine is running (flight time) not duty time. Think about that (your flight deck crew) the next time you get on a regional, or commuter airliner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dave 2,321 Posted May 6, 2007 I'll ask my son in Iraq if a twelve hour shift is long. And he will tell you yes. I am not complaining. Just on the weekend here in my command post its usually quiet. During the week its chaos and easily can run into 14 to 16 hour days. I do not want to get into a peeing contest on who does what. Not the point, I am just killing time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Erik 1,768 Posted May 6, 2007 ... ok so I have to ask Let's say the left engine quits for any reason does that mean your off the clock? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+drdoyo 2 Posted May 6, 2007 lol, no. That is the generator that the system which tracks the times and other aircraft data is plugged into. If the engine fails, they know where we are when it happens, and will be expecting to be told when to stop worrying. Dave, my only point was that I can relate to how you feel. It gets really hard to land even the easiest airplane when you are approaching that 16 hour limit. Frankly I don't see why the FAA allows it for anything other than trans-oceanic flights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Erik 1,768 Posted May 6, 2007 ... no aux generator running off the PTO starboard? You fly for TED don't you? LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+drdoyo 2 Posted May 6, 2007 No, but close..... Until yesterday I flew the Be-1900D, Tomorrow I start transition training to the EMB-120 Brazilia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dave 2,321 Posted May 6, 2007 Dave, my only point was that I can relate to how you feel. It gets really hard to land even the easiest airplane when you are approaching that 16 hour limit. Frankly I don't see why the FAA allows it for anything other than trans-oceanic flights. Undrstand, I was responding to firehawkordies remark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Typhoid 231 Posted May 6, 2007 about 11 hours into a 12 hour mid-shift, one gets the thousand yard stare............... I did severak stints as the Shore Patrol Officer in Hong Kong where we split up the shifts that way. But then, Shore Patrol in Hong Kong has sailors and Marines coming up with incredibly interesting and innovative ways to catch the attention of the Shore Patrol.......... on one occasion though we (the carrier group) bailed out of Hong Kong on an emergency sortie to avoid a typhoon. I was the only E-2 Mission Commander to make it back to the ship so I spent the next 4 days on the alert crew (after the typhoon got tired of beating the stuffing out of us....) those were long hours........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firehawkordy 34 Posted May 6, 2007 (edited) And he will tell you yes. I am not complaining. Just on the weekend here in my command post its usually quiet. During the week its chaos and easily can run into 14 to 16 hour days. I do not want to get into a peeing contest on who does what. Not the point, I am just killing time. You and I have been friends here for a long time so you're right, no contests. I just like to poke sharp sticks at sleeping dragons occasionally. I know all about long shifts, and extreme boredom so it's fun when it happens to some one else. After all the Vets and Active/Reserve guys stay rather tight here, as it should be. Stay bored aned stay safe. Edited May 6, 2007 by firehawkordy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dave 2,321 Posted May 7, 2007 You and I have been friends here for a long time so you're right, no contests. I just like to poke sharp sticks at sleeping dragons occasionally. I know all about long shifts, and extreme boredom so it's fun when it happens to some one else. After all the Vets and Active/Reserve guys stay rather tight here, as it should be. Stay bored aned stay safe. rgr that! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayethWhaaaa 245 Posted May 8, 2007 Try 16hr shifts several days a week...needless to say I'm looking for another job. WTF?? Do you work at EA or something?? If so, I'm surprised they let you home! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayethWhaaaa 245 Posted May 8, 2007 "...When I was a TI, in 1995 I worked 271 days in a row averaged over 15 hours a day..." Just curious, but did(do?) you get some kind of bonus for that kind of marathon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
