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It's under the NATO designation; AA-10A, B, C, D and A_G (the German model). Unless the ones on the MiG in this pic are updated, those are in the WP.

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It's under the NATO designation; AA-10A, B, C, D and A_G (the German model). Unless the ones on the MiG in this pic are updated, those are in the WP.

 

I'll look for them immediately :cool:

 

Thanks!!! :grin:

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Is the M version still in active service?

If you are a true lover of MiG-29M, you should have watched this:

Edited by Basher11
Posted

MiG-29M NEVER BE in active service, only 15-20 planes were producted, but in 2007-2008 russian MoD take solutions:

 

1) All Flyable MiG-29 (9-12) must be modernized to MiG-29BM Variant (Belorussian variant get smallest cost that MiG-29SMT )

2) In 2009-2010 must be started serial prodution MiG-29M/M2 in OVT variant and N-010M radar.

 

I finish modeling MiG-29M, K, BM (I use mig-29 LOD with add pylons), but i still can't answer from Marcello about using Su-27 cockpit, i used marc7@ig.com.br PM (i send mail 29 may), maybe it's addres wrong? Can you help my contact with HIM?

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MiG-29M NEVER BE in active service, only 15-20 planes were producted, but in 2007-2008 russian MoD take solutions:

 

1) All Flyable MiG-29 (9-12) must be modernized to MiG-29BM Variant (Belorussian variant get smallest cost that MiG-29SMT )

2) In 2009-2010 must be started serial prodution MiG-29M/M2 in OVT variant and N-010M radar.

 

I finish modeling MiG-29M, K, BM (I use mig-29 LOD with add pylons), but i still can't answer from Marcello about using Su-27 cockpit, i used marc7@ig.com.br PM (i send mail 29 may), maybe it's addres wrong? Can you help my contact with HIM?

 

How did You add new pylons? Mean witch 3D model did You use?

 

PS Send PM to Marc

Edited by CIACHO
Posted (edited)

 

I SEND MAIL TO MARC AT 29 may 2008, no answer! Send again ?

 

I Use apu-62 LOD in GP mode...

 

post-24955-1212501951_thumb.jpg

 

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Edited by lindr2
Posted

How many days till release? Icthing to try it out with the USAF skin hopefully someone can make one for the public.

Posted
Is the M version still in active service?

If you are a true lover of MiG-29M, you should have watched this:

 

 

Wow, and I mean wow!!!!!

Posted

I think MiG-29M is very good idea :clapping:

But don't use to that Marcfighter's Su-27 cockpit.

I know it's great,but MiG 29M/K have other cockpit with 2 MFD's.

mig29m1.jpg

First variant

fulcrum2.jpg

Second variant

MiG 29 SM/BM (it's this same,but BM is modification made by Belarussian on Russian licence) have very similar cockpit to MiG-29A/C

but with LCD MFD.

And remember to change the model!

Posted

 

NOT SAME! MiG-29BM is MOST brlorussian program with help russian specialists.

 

MiG-29BM Cockpit

 

mig29bm-4.jpg

 

Look at this max close, SEE? MiG-29BM can refueling in the air! and Mig-29SM/SMT - NOT!

 

mig29bm-7.jpg

 

AND MAIN ! > 55 MiG-29BM set on service, and MiG-29SM/SMT is ONLY PROTOTYPES!!!

Posted
NOT SAME! MiG-29BM is MOST brlorussian program with help russian specialists.

 

MiG-29BM Cockpit

 

 

 

Look at this max close, SEE? MiG-29BM can refueling in the air! and Mig-29SM/SMT - NOT!

 

 

 

AND MAIN ! > 55 MiG-29BM set on service, and MiG-29SM/SMT is ONLY PROTOTYPES!!!

 

Are you sure? Because In 1998 a decision was made by the Defense Ministry to launch a quantity-modernization program of the MiG-29 fighters. A total of 150 to 180 modernized MiG-29SMTs will be introduced in service with the Russian Air Force. Extensive modernization is planned only of the aircraft produced through the previous decade. This will provide a dramatic increase in combat capabilities of the Russian Air Force. The modernization program started in September 1998 by the Kubinka military aircraft-repair plant and the MAPO MIG. The first batch of 10 to 15 MiG-29SMTs was delivered before the end of the year. In 1999, a total of 20 to 30 MiG-29 fighters were modernized into the MiG-29SMT version, approaching fifth-generation fighters in terms of characteristics. Starting from the year 2000, the program's annual modernization rate was expected to reach 40 MiG-29SMTs. The overall plan provides for modernization of 150 recently manufactured MiG-29s, with the remainder of the older aircraft being withdrawn from service.

Posted

"...Will you say that is modernized Su-27SM, MIG-29SMT? Indeed, first Su-27SM appeared in 2007. Their amount is calculated a few ten, seems, 24 are two squadrons.."

 

http://www.militaryparitet.com/html/data/ic_news/162/ 15.10.2007

 

..."Notably, that while AF of Russia while so yet and got not a single MIG-29SMT, Byelorussian VVS already the pair of years is exploited by modernized MIG-29BM" ..

 

Vzl'ot national aviation magazine - Oct 2005

 

http://www.take-off.ru/asp/main10_2005

Posted
Looks more like Su-27 pit with a MFD to me... :wink:

 

Not Su-27 !

 

Real Su-27 cockpit

 

su27-11.jpg

 

But You right partially, some avionics from MiG-29 were used on Su-27, and otherwrise in work of mig-29BM were used some Su-27CK elements ..

Posted

You're right lindr2 :yes: .

Mig-29BM isn't same to SM.

They are very similar(this same radar,engines), but they have little differences.

Posted (edited)

I've never seen Su-27 on real, but used to see MiG-29s quite often. The layout of the cockpit on your pic resembles more the layout of a Su-27 pit, than that of a MiG-29. Also note the center located IRST sensor. On MiG-29 the sensor is offset to the right side of the nose.

I think this is the real MiG-29BM cockpit:

photo14.jpg

 

source: http://www.freeweb.hu/superfighter/MASK%20...os/photo15.html

 

It is closer to this:

mig29-15.jpg

(MiG-29 cockpit)

Edited by The Trooper

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