+Jimbib 747 Posted August 26, 2008 http://www.skippyscage.com/aviation/nv/nel...phoon/index.php These shots looked rather good, thought they were worth sharing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syrinx 13 Posted August 27, 2008 Certainly were Jimmy...thankyou. I was under the impression that the FGR4 designation was for 11 sqn ground attack aircraft only, pure fighter versions would still be F2's? Ah well, FGR4 it is then. Whatever her label, the Typhoon is a beauty. A real femme fatale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DWCAce 19 Posted August 27, 2008 Those are some pretty fancy shots! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+streakeagle 871 Posted August 27, 2008 Did they adopt FGR the same way the F-18 and F-22 became the F/A-18 and F/A-22? i.e. for publicity/political reasons? Of course, the F-22 dropped the "/A" again while the Hornet has forever kept the dual designation. Those photos look great. I like the lines of the Typhoon except for the big square intakes, but I know the engines really appreciate those style of intakes... and I have no problem with sacrificing looks (in this case only a slight detriment) or even stealth for significant gains in engine performance. It is a shame it has taken so long to get this fighter in service. Hopefully, I can see on flying some time at an airshow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Gocad 26 Posted August 27, 2008 (edited) Did they adopt FGR the same way the F-18 and F-22 became the F/A-18 and F/A-22? i.e. for publicity/political reasons? Of course, the F-22 dropped the "/A" again while the Hornet has forever kept the dual designation. Nah, it just points out that the FGR Typhoons do have enhanced capabilities, since the early Typhoons simply lacked the necessary equipment to do A-G with LGBs, etc. Certainly were Jimmy...thankyou. I was under the impression that the FGR4 designation was for 11 sqn ground attack aircraft only, pure fighter versions would still be F2's? Ah well, FGR4 it is then. These type designations are unrelated to the Squadron assignment. It's not unlikely that all Typhoons may end up as FGRs, once the receive the upgrades that would turn them into multirole capable aircraft. Edited August 27, 2008 by Gocad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syrinx 13 Posted August 27, 2008 These type designations are unrelated to the Squadron assignment. It's not unlikely that all Typhoons may end up as FGRs, once the receive the upgrades that would turn them into multirole capable aircraft. Thanks Gocad. Think I worded it incorrectly, would be silly to have separate role designations for different squadrons. Duh. What I meant was that since 11 sqn were the first to operate the Typhoon in it's ground attack capability they'd be getting the FGR4's. Certainly seem to getting up through the numbers quickly...we'll be on the FGR7 before we know it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted August 27, 2008 Unfortunately, naming is inconsistent everywhere, even within services. I've still never heard a satisfactory reason why the 2-seat Harrier is a TAV-8B while the 2-seat Hornets were 18B and 18D. It might have meant combat capability, but AFAIK the 18B was never meant to serve in combat (unlike the D). Actually, I seem to recall it originally WAS going to be F/A-18A and TF/A-18A... Then we have F-111, F-117, and A-4 for more mis-designations. I will say I found the Swedish Viggens the most confusing with their AJ/JA/AJS/JSA/JJA/ASJA/JASJA/JAJAJJSA deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eraser_tr 29 Posted August 27, 2008 The real question is where the hell green flag came from and what happened to red flag? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted August 27, 2008 Red Flag is "conventional warfare" training. Green Flag I believe is centered more on EW training. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastCargo 412 Posted August 27, 2008 JM is correct. And Red Flag still happens, Nellis and now Alaska... I've done Green Flag and Red Flag back in the day... (and Coalition Flag, Almalgam Warrior, William Tell...) FastCargo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eraser_tr 29 Posted August 27, 2008 Ok, I was worried it was some lame-ass environmentally inspired name change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted August 29, 2008 Almalgam Warrior Heh. Brings me back to the good old MST3K days. "I am a Grimald warrior!!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weasel Keeper 0 Posted September 2, 2008 Red Flag is "conventional warfare" training.Green Flag I believe is centered more on EW training. Red Flag is conventional A/A, A/G, and more recently EW exercises. Green Flag (used to be Air Warrior) is pre-deployment live weapons delivery exercises. Main focus on CAS and precision guided weapons delivery to get aircrew refreshed before going to OIF or OEF. EW used to be a part of Air Warrior/Green Flag, but was moved to Red Flag. I took part in Green Flag West (Nellis) in March 07, and the jet I crew was the leader in delivered munitions. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Gocad 26 Posted September 2, 2008 http://www.skippyscage.com/aviation/nv/nel...phoon/index.php These shots looked rather good, thought they were worth sharing. Static pic #2: Typhoons, Raptors & Growlers in one pic? Priceless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted September 2, 2008 Red Flag is conventional A/A, A/G, and more recently EW exercises. Green Flag (used to be Air Warrior) is pre-deployment live weapons delivery exercises. Main focus on CAS and precision guided weapons delivery to get aircrew refreshed before going to OIF or OEF. EW used to be a part of Air Warrior/Green Flag, but was moved to Red Flag. I took part in Green Flag West (Nellis) in March 07, and the jet I crew was the leader in delivered munitions. :) Oh no. No, no, no. They're not allowed to change it. Who said they could do that?? That was not approved. Floggings all around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
