+krizis Posted December 4, 2008 Posted December 4, 2008 (edited) hurrah! Edited December 4, 2008 by krizis Quote
+FastCargo Posted December 4, 2008 Posted December 4, 2008 Approved. Report issues here or in the file release thread. FC PS Unapproved...weapondata.ini is causing CTDs. Standby. Quote
Dreamstar Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 Yeah i keep getting a Missileobjects.dll error when i try to start either WOI or WOV Quote
WDH Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 Yeah i keep getting a Missileobjects.dll error when i try to start either WOI or WOV Weapons Pack 2.52 works great and got to see how much better AI a/c are armed. Quote
+krizis Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 (edited) To AOCbravo: I have a question- why does this pack contain so many similar (if not the same) entries? For example, there are AA-10, R27 and R-27 folders!!! Such situation is observed for all soviet-russian missiles. Where is the logic here? Not tested other weapons yet. Mine AA missiles were with names without any hyphens (Rxx). There is mishmash with russian bombs too. Again, your FAB250 and mine FAB250-M46 are the same weapons, as well as FAB500 and FAB500-M54, and many others. Probably, we (me and Lindr) should organize this pack (the russian part at least) in proper way... To WDH: the missiles on your screenshot aren't mine. PS. just for the reference: Edited December 5, 2008 by krizis Quote
kukulino Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 (edited) There was old idea about soviet weps pack. western missiles were overmodelled, soviet undermodelled. There were many flame discussions about this theme here and on Thirdwire forums too. Here is old link to Soviet A2A weapons pack project discussion for SFP1 series (no flame there ): http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=24967 There was practically no real progress. I had idea but low knowledge to lead this project... After those flame discussions I get idea, that it is better have seperate soviet weps pack. If somebody wants it, he can try it. If does not like, he can delete it. Red fans will not delete it I suppose But this series is not just about western planes and fun. I do not want just shoot Bears, I want fly them too I think the best way have correct soviet weps is organise them by red fans, becouse they know them (names, performance, skins etc.). Than include them into "mega weps pack" or (or "and") release them as soviet weps pack. These are my ideas about soviet weps. Just suggestions. If there will be discussion, it is better continue it in upper link to not hi jack this threat. Edited December 5, 2008 by kukulino Quote
+krizis Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 to kukulino: now I understand why Lindr decided to publish his own packs. I'm waiting for his suggestions. Quote
kukulino Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 Anyway, guys worked hard on mega weps pack (the same for older bunys and TMF and lindr2 packs). In dozens weps it is too easy make some little trobles in weps designations. Pack needs still testing to find troubles (if there are). Really dozens weps are there. So BIG THANKS to all whose compilled weps packs (modders, ini gurus, skinners, testers etc) :yes: Quote
+FastCargo Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 Listen folks, the reason there was duplication is because some aircraft loadouts use the NATO designations, some use the Russian designations for the missiles. There are a couple of ways to rectify the problem. 1) Tweak ALL the aircraft to use one or the other OR 2) Make duplicate entries that in ALL other ways, look exactly the same. An example: [WeaponData001] TypeName=AA-10A FullName=AA-10A Alamo-A ModelName=AA-10A etc, etc, etc. and [WeaponData002] TypeName=R-73A FullName=AA-10A Alamo-A ModelName=AA-10A etc, etc, etc. Note the ONLY difference is the TypeName. This allows maximum compatability with all aircraft. You all need to get your sierra together to come up with standardized common Weapondata entries to make this work well. FC Quote
WombRaider Posted December 5, 2008 Author Posted December 5, 2008 Sorry that I have been away for a while. Had to pretty much replace my computer, and I am bringing things back online. In the plus column though, I am now computing on a 42 inch LG big screen. The resolutions are amazing, wish this sim played in HD! This is why I was waiting to release everything to the public. There are many issues that I needed to fix, and I was completely unaware that AOC bravo went and released the pack. I have not downloaded it, but I better get some credit for all the folder editing that I had done! He also made it a zip file, instead of a nice big installer, that would have been HALF the size of his zip. Well, anyway, I guess I will keep my project to myself. Thanks for all of your efforts Krizis, and Lindr2. I look forward to any of your work in the future. Warren Quote
Bravo2009 Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 (edited) Sorry that I have been away for a while. Had to pretty much replace my computer, and I am bringing things back online. In the plus column though, I am now computing on a 42 inch LG big screen. The resolutions are amazing, wish this sim played in HD! This is why I was waiting to release everything to the public. There are many issues that I needed to fix, and I was completely unaware that AOC bravo went and released the pack. I have not downloaded it, but I better get some credit for all the folder editing that I had done! He also made it a zip file, instead of a nice big installer, that would have been HALF the size of his zip. Well, anyway, I guess I will keep my project to myself. Thanks for all of your efforts Krizis, and Lindr2. I look forward to any of your work in the future. Warren Yes you did get credit Warren, I was only listed as an assistant in the readme. Edited December 6, 2008 by AOCbravo2004 Quote
ShinKazama88 Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 (edited) in regards to AOCBravo's weps pack... Hey uh... does this pack lack effects? I've been dropping nukes with no flash or explosion, ive fired sparrows and shrikes with no flame or smoke trails... Some bombs have no explosion effects.. Some weps just dont act ryt... I've also been having truble spotting sams as they launch... Whats up with that? Thnks I've tried using stock and Explosion Effects 2 and 3... Oh by the way... im starting my sim from scratch as i want only one weps pack installed... Edited December 7, 2008 by ShinKazama88 Quote
+lindr2 Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 in regards to AOCBravo's weps pack... Hey uh... does this pack lack effects? I've been dropping nukes with no flash or explosion, ive fired sparrows and shrikes with no flame or smoke trails... Some bombs have no explosion effects.. Some weps just dont act ryt... I've also been having truble spotting sams as they launch... Whats up with that? Thnks I've tried using stock and Explosion Effects 2 and 3... Oh by the way... im starting my sim from scratch as i want only one weps pack installed... eff_fix.rar copy pacticlesystem.INI to Fight folder, nuke effects to effects folder. Quote
Sakai Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 I have noticed that my KAB series russian LGB's don't show up on the racks, any ideas??? Quote
+JAT81500 Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 To Krizis: In the last Wep pack i couldn't find the Python3 and the S-5. But i found an unexpected UB-8 rocket pod from you i think. For that last one i didn't find the correct data for the rockets placement in the pod. I don't know if there will be an other WP, but if not could you help the community with these issues please ? Your work is amazing, i hope you have other projects !! Thank's in advance. Quote
+krizis Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 (edited) Yes, there are a lot of bugs in the current release. Python3 and S-5 haven't been included yet. You can see the list of my weapons above in this thread (hope you will recognize them easily). For my UB-8M1's: Rocket01Position=-0.080700,-0.150000,0.199500 Rocket02Position=-0.160800,-0.150000,0.143000 Rocket03Position=-0.207600,-0.150000,0.056800 Rocket04Position=-0.211200,-0.150000,-0.041200 Rocket05Position=-0.171100,-0.150000,-0.130600 Rocket06Position=-0.095400,-0.150000,-0.192900 Rocket07Position=0.000000,-0.150000,-0.215200 Rocket08Position=0.095500,-0.150000,-0.192800 Rocket09Position=0.171100,-0.150000,-0.130500 Rocket10Position=0.211200,-0.150000,-0.041000 Rocket11Position=0.207500,-0.150000,0.056900 Rocket12Position=0.160700,-0.150000,0.143100 Rocket13Position=0.086000,-0.150000,0.199500 Rocket14Position=-0.050400,-0.150000,0.103800 Rocket15Position=-0.112600,-0.150000,0.025400 Rocket16Position=-0.090100,-0.150000,-0.072200 Rocket17Position=0.000000,-0.150000,-0.115400 Rocket18Position=0.090300,-0.150000,-0.071900 Rocket19Position=0.112500,-0.150000,0.025800 Rocket20Position=0.050000,-0.150000,0.104000 Note that my UB-8's are intended to be used with ONLY my S-8 rockets (viz. S-8KOM, S-8T and S-8BM). Otherwise, you will get visual problems. PS. I am in contact with AOCBravo. Hope all bugs will be fixed soon. Edited December 7, 2008 by krizis Quote
the test pilot Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 .Lod file missing, i think. sometimes winrar or 7zip jump some files in the archive they extract. try to re-unzip all the files jumping the ones you already have Quote
+lindr2 Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 I have noticed that my KAB series russian LGB's don't show up on the racks, any ideas??? what KABs? (models names please) Quote
TurtleHawk Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 Sorry that I have been away for a while. Had to pretty much replace my computer, and I am bringing things back online. In the plus column though, I am now computing on a 42 inch LG big screen. The resolutions are amazing, wish this sim played in HD! This is why I was waiting to release everything to the public. There are many issues that I needed to fix, and I was completely unaware that AOC bravo went and released the pack. I have not downloaded it, but I better get some credit for all the folder editing that I had done! He also made it a zip file, instead of a nice big installer, that would have been HALF the size of his zip. Well, anyway, I guess I will keep my project to myself. Thanks for all of your efforts Krizis, and Lindr2. I look forward to any of your work in the future. Warren Hello Warren, I noticed there was no installer, and thought maybe the individuals working on this project decided not to include one. The installer is a brilliant idea. With 2.52, I suddenly had 1200+ folders, AND the individual files. Felt a little confused, no readme, so I didn't know exactly what to do, besides drop the folders in. I don't know what happened that caused this to be released before you were ready. We get impatient sometimes. I think the team effort was the part that was making this so incredible. I hope you will not abandon this project completely. Or barring that, that you will share your final efforts with us. Thanks everyone for your efforts. Quote
WDH Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 (edited) That's weird?Because,I not having of these kinda of problems at all.Got a feeling it's the way their installing them.If effects is your problem,get the effects/explosion enhancement mod.I installed 2.52 WP on a heavy modded installation of SFP1/WOV/WOE combination.Be specific on with weapon is not showing up on what a/c your using. These people put a lot of work into to this and it's simply not a feat done with an idle mind.Congrats on a great weapons pack! Edited December 7, 2008 by WDH Quote
Jug Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 That's weird?Because,I not having of these kinda of problems at all.Got a feeling it's the way their installing them.If effects is your problem,get the effects/explosion enhancement mod.I installed 2.52 WP on a heavy modded installation of SFP1/WOV/WOE combination.Be specific on with weapon is not showing up on what a/c your using. These people put a lot of work into to this and it's simply not a feat done with an idle mind.Congrats on a great weapons pack! Same here. Well done! Quote
+lindr2 Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 Men you not understand situation: these guy take my weapons and changed some ini entries of them without any report. This is my on post pack support topic. Today I attentively looked on weapondata.ini Look's like you changed effects names for my weapons and on some others. But these effects are not included in pak, and has no links, no refs of them. It's a BIG problem for Pack USERS... IMHO If you change something in my ini, it seems to you must report me about it, or write about it in readme... I they like some non-standart effects, they must include effects in pack, give link of this. But some peoples dont want use this effect, IMHO must have 2 versions INI with standart effects & Extended, and of course this info must be in readme. I find another bugs on pack (missing ini (LOD's without ini), wrong ini, i send PM to autors). Maybe I'm not right, but it's my POV. Quote
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