malibu43 Posted December 31, 2008 Posted December 31, 2008 (edited) Hey all, I noticed last night when playing some strike missions in the 'ole F-100D, that the inner weps stations have a max load of 680.40, which allows 3 MK82's on a TER, but only 2 Snakeyes. So, I was thinking of bumping the limit up to 763 to allow 3 snakes as well. That weight will allow only 2 CBU-24's, 2 M117's, and 2 BLU-1's on each inner pylon. Since I'm tweaking the numbers, I thought I try and find out what the F-100 could acutally carry on those inboard stations (ie - should I increase it even further to allow 3 CBU's, 3 M117's, etc...). However, I couldn't find any loadout information for the F-100 online anywhere. Does anyone know what munitions they carried on TER's on the inner pylons? Thanks! PS - I checked the weapons fixes thread, and noticed that it has the same weight limit (680.40), but then lists 3 CBU's on TER's in the loadout update, which is a bit confusing since 3 CBU's will be somewhere above 1000kg total. Edited December 31, 2008 by malibu43 Quote
+Dave Posted December 31, 2008 Posted December 31, 2008 Malibu I got a great book on the Hun at home. If you can wait I can look that stuff up when I get off duty later. http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/f100_6.html Here is some good info on it. Quote
malibu43 Posted December 31, 2008 Author Posted December 31, 2008 Malibu I got a great book on the Hun at home. If you can wait I can look that stuff up when I get off duty later. http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/f100_6.html Here is some good info on it. Don't mind waiting at all. Thanks! Quote
+Wrench Posted December 31, 2008 Posted December 31, 2008 I take you found this thread....... http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showt...ost&p=82098 I did this over 4 1/2 years ago.... You can easily swap out the CBU-24s for Mk81s or BLU-10 napalm canisters (if they were worth a damn). I chose the cluster bombs because I have a mean streak.... Wrench kevin stein Quote
malibu43 Posted December 31, 2008 Author Posted December 31, 2008 (edited) I take you found this thread....... http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showt...ost&p=82098 I did this over 4 1/2 years ago.... You can easily swap out the CBU-24s for Mk81s or BLU-10 napalm canisters (if they were worth a damn). I chose the cluster bombs because I have a mean streak.... Wrench kevin stein Yeah, I saw that one, thanks. Just requires the load limit to be raised quite a bit. All attempts to be authentic aside, cluster bombs would be my weapon of choice as well It's interesting, I finally found a few pics of F-100's loaded out in Vietnam, and I didn't see a rack used on any of them. There were M117's, BLU1's, MK82's, and Snakeyes all loaded on the inner pylons, but they were always just a single bomb... Curious to see what Dave comes back with... Edited December 31, 2008 by malibu43 Quote
+Dave Posted December 31, 2008 Posted December 31, 2008 chose the cluster bombs because I have a mean streak.... I like the way you think. Cluster bombs are the only way to say, I love you. Quote
mppd Posted December 31, 2008 Posted December 31, 2008 I can't locate the exact figures either, but typical armament for a Hun is 7500 lbs I think. With a drop tank on each wing, look for 1x500/750 on each of the remaining pylons. The TER on the inboard CAN carry 3xMk81s but NOT 3xMk82s/Snakeye, and certainly NOT 3xM117 750 lb GP. The use of the TER was VERY rare in Southeast Asia on Huns - would love to see some photos. Probably all went to F-4 units. Nape, Snake or a single GP is the norm. Occasional CBU. Mike D. Quote
+Dave Posted December 31, 2008 Posted December 31, 2008 Engine: One Pratt & Whitney J57-P-21/21A turbojet, 10,200 lb.st. dry and 16,000 lb.st. with afterburning. Dimensions: Wingspan 38 feet 9 inches, length 50 feet 0 inches, height 16 feet 2 3/4 inches, wing area 400 square feet. Performance: Maximum speed 770 mph at sea level (clean), 864 mph (Mach 1.3) at 36,000 feet (clean). Initial climb rate 19,000 feet/minute. An altitude of 35,000 feet could be attained in 2.3 minutes. Service ceiling 36,100 feet, combat ceiling 47,700 feet, absolute ceiling 50,000 feet. Normal range 534 miles, maximum range 1995 miles. Fuel capacity 1739 US gallons internally, total of 2139 gallons if maximum external fuel is carried. Weights: 21,000 pounds empty, 28,847 pounds gross, 34,832 pounds maximum takeoff. Armament: Four 20-mm Pontaic M-39 cannon. Six underwing pylons for up to 7040 pounds of bombs, fuel tanks, or rockets. A MK-28 or Mk-43/57/61 nuclear weapon could be carried. In later versions, four AIM-9B/E/J Sidewinder air-to-air infrared homing missiles could be carried. North American F-100 Super Sabre, David A. Anderton, Osprey, 1987 The North American F-100 Super Sabre, Ray Wagner, Aircraft in Profile, 1965. The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Aircraft Armament, Bill Gunston, Orion, 1988. United States Military Aircraft Since 1909, Gordon Swanborough and Peter M. Bowers, Smithsonian, 1989. The American Fighter, Enzo Angelucci and Peter Bowers, Orion, 1987. Fighters of the United States Air Force, Robert F. Dorr and David Donald, Temple Press Aerospace, 1990. American Combat Planes, Third Enlarged Edition, Ray Wagner, Doubleday, 1982. Post-World War II Fighters, 1945-1973, Marcelle Size Knaack, Office of Air Force History, 1986. E-mail from Jack Daub, who flew MiG CAPs in Vietnam. E-mail from Michael Stover on F-100D being with 163rd TFS, Indiana ANG. E-mail from Larry on F-100 experiences. All info taken from Joe Baughers website. Quote
+Crusader Posted December 31, 2008 Posted December 31, 2008 (edited) Huns were loaded with 2x mk82 or 3x mk81 on TERs on the inboard stations... to lug more of that "light" stuff around. But it was a rare loadout and not used by all squadrons. http://www.f-100.info/images/f-100d_62937.jpg http://www.f-100.info/images/f-100d_63197.jpg http://www.f-100.org/hun.shtml edit : freekin pics .... Edited January 1, 2009 by Crusader Quote
Kirsten Posted December 31, 2008 Posted December 31, 2008 Engine: One Pratt & Whitney J57-P-21/21A turbojet, 10,200 lb.st. dry and 16,000 lb.st. with afterburning. Dimensions: Wingspan 38 feet 9 inches, length 50 feet 0 inches, height 16 feet 2 3/4 inches, wing area 400 square feet. Performance: Maximum speed 770 mph at sea level (clean), 864 mph (Mach 1.3) at 36,000 feet (clean). Initial climb rate 19,000 feet/minute. An altitude of 35,000 feet could be attained in 2.3 minutes. Service ceiling 36,100 feet, combat ceiling 47,700 feet, absolute ceiling 50,000 feet. Normal range 534 miles, maximum range 1995 miles. Fuel capacity 1739 US gallons internally, total of 2139 gallons if maximum external fuel is carried. Weights: 21,000 pounds empty, 28,847 pounds gross, 34,832 pounds maximum takeoff. Armament: Four 20-mm Pontaic M-39 cannon. Six underwing pylons for up to 7040 pounds of bombs, fuel tanks, or rockets. A MK-28 or Mk-43/57/61 nuclear weapon could be carried. In later versions, four AIM-9B/E/J Sidewinder air-to-air infrared homing missiles could be carried. North American F-100 Super Sabre, David A. Anderton, Osprey, 1987 The North American F-100 Super Sabre, Ray Wagner, Aircraft in Profile, 1965. The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Aircraft Armament, Bill Gunston, Orion, 1988. United States Military Aircraft Since 1909, Gordon Swanborough and Peter M. Bowers, Smithsonian, 1989. The American Fighter, Enzo Angelucci and Peter Bowers, Orion, 1987. Fighters of the United States Air Force, Robert F. Dorr and David Donald, Temple Press Aerospace, 1990. American Combat Planes, Third Enlarged Edition, Ray Wagner, Doubleday, 1982. Post-World War II Fighters, 1945-1973, Marcelle Size Knaack, Office of Air Force History, 1986. E-mail from Jack Daub, who flew MiG CAPs in Vietnam. E-mail from Michael Stover on F-100D being with 163rd TFS, Indiana ANG. E-mail from Larry on F-100 experiences. Impressive Dave !! No way to match that.... Aju, Derk :yes: Quote
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