SeaWulf 0 Posted October 21, 2009 Has anyone had any experience with Windows 7 and OFF? Currently have Vista 64 bit and was wondering if OFF can be run under Windows 7? Thanks in advance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themightysrc 5 Posted October 21, 2009 Hi SW, Don't know for sure, but apparently OFF runs happily on W7. Email the devs at ODB and I think they're likely to confirm this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Polovski 456 Posted October 21, 2009 It's been asked several times in these forums, I'm running Win 7 64 bit for a couple of months and P3 runs fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von Paulus 8 Posted October 22, 2009 Running perfectly in RC1 (32) for a couple of months. I'll try next week on the final Home Premium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Siggi 10 Posted October 22, 2009 I recieved and installed my copy of W7 (32-bit) yesterday. So far I've tested only CFS3 on it, and that runs fine apart from the FFB stick being totally fubar. I intend to get OFF installed today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UK_Widowmaker 571 Posted October 22, 2009 Working here too! (though I am loath to stick it on my 'bestest computer just yet!...it will happen though no doubt) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Siggi 10 Posted October 22, 2009 Looks like I'm stuffed. Zero FFB in OFF (including no spring-pretension whatsoever, which leaves the stick flopping about and useless) and in CFS3 it's either zero or the stick pulls fully back and stays there. I've installed the Saitek drivers "Vista & Windows 7" for both the stick and rudders, tried setting them in compatibility mode for "older programs" (in the Saitek properties window), calibrated them both in and out of the game, no joy (stick...har har). I get no throttle in OFF either (works in CFS3). Anyone have any ideas, or is this a W7 thing? My stick is a Cyborg Force 3D by the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gromit 0 Posted October 22, 2009 As much as I'd like to upgrade to 7, I just downgraded back to XP from Vista, and OFF is now running beautifully. I'm not going to mess with it now. When I build (or buy) a new rig, I'll upgrade then... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Siggi 10 Posted October 22, 2009 Oh well, simple solution was to go back to a non-FFB stick. Works fine now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creaghorn 10 Posted October 22, 2009 anybody else has this FFB problem with win7? i'm waiting myself for a copy and losing FFB would be a too costly price for me. i have a saitek evo force. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axgrinder 0 Posted October 22, 2009 I could be wrong but - didn't some players say that OFF MP does NOT work in W7? Can anyone confirm or deny this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Siggi 10 Posted October 22, 2009 I deleted all the control assigments except the axis, which improved things (the throttle worked at least) but the stick was still very sloppy and gave FFB only under extreme maneouvers. Zero centering force to talk of. The thing is it was never that good under XP either. The stick works ok in W7, just not in the game (CFS3 and OFF). The stick I'm using now has a good centre-spring, so all I'm really missing is the MG rumble (if I keep telling myself that I won't miss the FFB so badly). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UK_Widowmaker 571 Posted October 22, 2009 Well, having not used a FFB stick, there's nothing for me to miss...though I think I will be with XP for a while yet (just until the dust settles) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Siggi 10 Posted October 22, 2009 Please excuse my rudeness, but I'm grasping at straws, in the vain attempt to stay afloat. I also use the Cyborg EVO, but without the program. And a Logitech Gaming Keyboard to replace that terrible throttle placement on the EVO If the FFB works that way, I predict the sales of the Logitech to skyrocket And to be doublely insulting, please doublecheck FFB, allowed in Workshop How do you mean, "without the program"? You mean the separate programming software or the drivers? And yes, FFB was enabled in the Workshop and in the CFS3/OFF Manager control window. I think it's pretty much a case of MS farmed-out the netcode and FFB code in CFS3 to some bunch of shonky 3rd-rate programmers like Bohemia Interactive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Siggi 10 Posted October 23, 2009 Yes, without anything, the joystick is supposed to be 'plug and play' so plug in the USB and let Windows provide the driver, if there's no FFB then, there is no hope All calibration will be via the control panel > Properties Any assignments of Button Function, will be provided in the Controls of OFF I'll give that a go, but I'm pretty sure I gave the stick a go in W7 before I loaded the drivers and there was nada going on with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimAttrill 24 Posted October 23, 2009 I quite honestly can't see the point of 'upgrading' to 7 if you have XP. It doesn't seem to do anything over and above XP that I want. And XP is stable. Although maybe I am biased because I have a Volume License Copy of XP which doesn't have to be 'activated'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wels 2 Posted October 23, 2009 Just ask Micro$oft: Greetings, Catfish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gromit 0 Posted October 23, 2009 I think it's pretty much a case of MS farmed-out the netcode and FFB code in CFS3 to some bunch of shonky 3rd-rate programmers like Bohemia Interactive. I believe that's BOHICA Interactive you're thinking of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyspin 1 Posted October 25, 2009 I could be wrong but - didn't some players say that OFF MP does NOT work in W7? Can anyone confirm or deny this? Can't comment on BHaH, but P2 and CFS3 itself don't work on the pre-release versions of Windows 7. I've tried it with both 32-bit and 64-bit versions and CTD is the result every time. The 'Vista fix' for CFS3 doesn't help either. I don't know about the final code for Windows 7, my copy is still with the carrier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Siggi 10 Posted October 25, 2009 I quite honestly can't see the point of 'upgrading' to 7 if you have XP. It doesn't seem to do anything over and above XP that I want. And XP is stable. Although maybe I am biased because I have a Volume License Copy of XP which doesn't have to be 'activated'. I need to learn W7 for my work, but it just so happened that the day before W7 arrived I started to get multiple crashes in at least three games with the dreaded "nv4_disp" error. That was after I'd been trying lots of different drivers with my new GTX285, and it had clearly corrupted the OS. I am getting minor jerks and stutters with OFF in W7, despite very high FPS, something that didn't happen under XP with a lesser card (GTX8800), but it's not a show-stopper, just irritating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bullethead 12 Posted October 25, 2009 Hehe, I remember when XP came out. It totally, completely sucked for the 1st 6-12 months. Maybe those of you all who love XP so much today have forgotten that . It's always the same when a new OS comes out. The OS itself will have a number of bugs and few if any of the drivers intended for it will actually work well or at all. It thus always takes at least 6 months, often more, to get these problems sorted out. The early-adopters have all kinds of problems and a generally rotten time, but their sacrfices are what get the problems solved for those who wait. So, I salute all you early-adopters with Win7, and look forward to getting a good OS with good drivers sometime next year, about when I get a new computer. I drink to your bravery in exploring this new environment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyspin 1 Posted October 25, 2009 I hope my last post didn't mislead anyone, I mean Windows 7 won't work with Multiplayer - QC and missions work just fine. XP is a great OS, which is why I have a dual-boot setup with XP Pro on the other HD to cater for the apps I still use which need it. I really like Win 7 as a working environment. Look on it as "Vista fixed" if you like, and I hated Vista. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burning Beard 14 Posted October 25, 2009 I think that nv4 error is a driver issue, I had it on one of the updates I did for my 8800 GT. It was resolved by a later driver. Beard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sitting_duck 3 Posted October 26, 2009 I could be wrong but - didn't some players say that OFF MP does NOT work in W7? Can anyone confirm or deny this? thats true,,,as confirmed by madmatt....has something to do with w7 either not intrepreting xml files at all,,or interpretting them wrong... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UK_Widowmaker 571 Posted October 26, 2009 (edited) Hehe, I remember when XP came out. It totally, completely sucked for the 1st 6-12 months. Maybe those of you all who love XP so much today have forgotten that . I for one haven't forgotten that..and in fact, it continued to suck right up until the release of SP2 But Vista sucked when it came out...continues to Suck..and (IMHO) will continue to suck for ever more!..Hence the arrival of W7 is welcomed...Just installed it on a Clients Laptop (overwriting Vista) and touch wood...looking very good indeed!..didnt have to search for drivers at all!!...brilliant Though one small nuisance..maybe just something I need to do..is that you cannot 'Run' a program from the net..I just tried to run AVG...but it doesn't open the program..had to download it, then run it...nothing major though Edited October 26, 2009 by UK_Widowmaker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
