Attn all DiD pilots.

[Siggi 10]

Please submit combat reports to the following schedule:

 

Monday: Central Powers pilots.

 

Tuesday: Entente pilots.

 

Wednesday: Central Powers pilots.

 

Thursday: Entente pilots.

 

Friday: Central Powers pilots.

 

Saturday: Entente pilots.

 

Sunday: NADA.

 

Central Powers = Krauts.

 

Entente = Krumpets.

 

One report per pilot per day.

 

Please do not submit double-reports on a day. Eg, if your pilot dies or transfers etc, report the event of the previous pilot on the one day, then the event of the new pilot on the next day. EG:

 

English pilot A dies, submit his total stats on XXXday. The new pilot, submit his total stats on the following elegible day.

 

Any questions, please post them here. This new regime takes force from tomorrow (monday 9th november), everyone can submit their current stats today. This is all intended to streamline the process and spread the load and enable pilots to see their updates sooner rather than later (waiting all week sucks).

 

Thankyou for your attention. :)

[Olham 164]

Okay, I'll get my "wilde Horde" informed next minute, Siggi!

Have a nice sunday.

[+Lothar of the Hill People 6]

Sounds good, Siggi, I'll hold my report until tomorrow. Thanks again for doing all this.

 

I'm working on writing some software which should make managing this campaign a lot easier. Eventually I should be able to automate the sending/collection/assimilation of the pilot reports, have it automatically update the boards for you. Stay tuned and I'll PM you when that functionality is ready for testing. May be a few weeks.

 

Some DiD-related software will be coming first as I learn my way around modding OFF. With any luck I'll have something to show you tomorrow or Tuesday that'll make you smile.

[Guest British_eh]

HA, the Krumpets seem to have the Krautz on zee run. 5 poor Boche killed, vs 2 Limey's, and look, instead of bratwurst and sauerkraut, 3 of you get bangers and mash for the rest of the war:shok:

 

Cheers,

 

British_eh

[Bullethead 12]

HA, the Krumpets seem to have the Krautz on zee run.

 

Just wait until you have to fly RE8s instead of Strutters

[Rickitycrate 10]

Seems you Brits don't care to join your Scout squadron and leave your comfy Strutters. Well Strut around while you may because you will get yours when you move to the RE8. Us germans are bombing the snot out of you guys but that can change. You seem intent on air raids at our fields so okay, I'll play your game and find my fame in Jasta 6 all the sooner for it.

[77Scout 3]

Will do on the reporting.

 

A couple of suggestions below, but honestly I am not sure if I am interpreting the web site stats correctly, so apologies if I am all screwed up.

 

It seems a bit confusing to me that the same people are showing up in both the bomber list and the fighter list at the same time. I would find it easier to check everyones progress if people were only in one place at a time (i.e. when moved to the fighter list they would be dropped from the bomber list, and visa versa).

 

Also when transferring to the fighters, are peoples stats are being started back at zero? Do we have to look in two places (bomber list and fighter list) and then add the two stats together to get someones total kills and time, or have I got this wrong? I would find it simpler if, on the website, peoples time and kills would stay with them when they move to fighters. (Wouldn't this also save Siggi some math...easier if we all just report grand totals, so no need to be subtracting bomber time and kills from the total stats?) We are able to transfer to fighter squads in-game with all our statistics intact (by editting the dossier file), so seems like an easier way to go? Also, I think this would be the case in real life (i.e. stats don't reset when you transfer).

 

I am having great fun with this DiD campaign...it was a great idea Siggi!

[Baldric 42]

I too am really enjoying this campaign, so I add my thanks too

 

When I transferred over to fighters, I just restarted Rolf rather than fudge around with the ingame log (too afraid of mucking it up). I'm assuming when Rolf croaks (matter of time I'm sure) that my new pilot will start at zero hours, no medals etc which is as it should be imo.

Edited November 9, 2009 by Baldric

[Stiffy 1]

I was wondering about stats too, makes more sense carrying stats over with pilot... after all I have carried pilot over so when I give you stats it will be for entire career, not just fighters.... may get complicated for you deducting my bomber stats to work out my fighter stats if you want to split them up...

 

I ask because I notice I am set to zero for everything in the fighter list, would make more sense to be removed from bomber and all stats in fighter... after all you remove dead/captured pilots so makes sense to remove transfers as well.

 

Also was wondering about medals... are you only showing one of each type? So far I have 3 flying crosses but board only shows one, this would happen in real life (So shows that I am a DFC when in fact I am DFC with 2 bars) so would be more acurate if you showed all the medals we recieve.

 

Otherwise site is looking fantastic! Having great fun

[Stiffy 1]

I too am really enjoying this campaign, so I add my thanks too

 

When I transferred over to fighters, I just restarted Rolf rather than fudge around with the ingame log (too afraid of mucking it up).

 

You just change the squad name, it works perfectly :) If you are worried make a backup of your pilot dossier file first.

[Stiffy 1]

Report sent! can't wait to see how everyone is doing

[Stiffy 1]

Looking at the german scores... We're not carrying our scores over from bombers then? Seems a shame not to show how many kills a pilot has actually got. After all when you transfered in real life they didnt wipe your record.

 

Does anyone else have any views on this?

[Ras 0]

Report sent! can't wait to see how everyone is doing

 

 

No flights for me since I sent one in about 36 hours ago, but it is interesting to see the numbers build. And yes, i would like to see the numbers transfer, I thought it was going to be so?

[Siggi 10]

I've made it so it's as easy for me as possible, which is also the easiest for you chaps.

 

As a bomber pilot you give me bomber totals, on the designated days.

 

As a fighter pilot you give me ditto.

 

Stats are seperate for bombers and fighters. Your bomber stats are not carried over to the fighter stats. I tried it, it did my head in. The running totals at the bottom of the boards didn't make it easier. That's why your name stays up on the bomber board when you are a fighter pilot.

 

When on bombers, if you die, invalided, POW, transfer, you give me your final bomber stats on the first elegible day. On the next elegible day you give me your fighter stats (even if they are all still zero). That way I know which is which without any possibility of confusion (and believe me, I'm easily confused).

 

If this system was automated or user-interfaced it would have features up the ying yang, but it's all manual, and I'm Manuel (ola).

 

If you see a chap on the fighter board you know he's come off bombers, so if you want to see his earlier stats you just hop over to the bomber board.

 

It's what it is chaps. I know it could be better but there's only so much I can handle with other stuff I have to do each day (work mostly). I did this with DiD for IL2 a few years ago, around 200 members with a significant percentage of those each day sending me reports, which I updated on a board as I'm doing with this. I burned out after a year (just over a year), though I was also creating a new mission each and every day for the daily MP sessions. This OFF jobby is relaxed by comparison, but I'm not going to let that sucker me in to over-reaching myself. The way it is now I can continue indefinitely, or until armistice-day, whichever comes first.

[Siggi 10]

Ya, the medals. I'll add the double and triples of the same medal. I kind of thought they were a bit bogus, which is why I haven't put them up, but I guess they can be considered bars. I did have barred medals, but at the size they are now they wouldn't show up very clearly. Please report them as usual in your next reports and I'll add them.

[Stiffy 1]

I've made it so it's as easy for me as possible, which is also the easiest for you chaps.

 

As a bomber pilot you give me bomber totals, on the designated days.

 

As a fighter pilot you give me ditto.

 

Stats are seperate for bombers and fighters. Your bomber stats are not carried over to the fighter stats. I tried it, it did my head in. The running totals at the bottom of the boards didn't make it easier. That's why your name stays up on the bomber board when you are a fighter pilot.

 

When on bombers, if you die, invalided, POW, transfer, you give me your final bomber stats on the first elegible day. On the next elegible day you give me your fighter stats (even if they are all still zero). That way I know which is which without any possibility of confusion (and believe me, I'm easily confused).

 

If this system was automated or user-interfaced it would have features up the ying yang, but it's all manual, and I'm Manuel (ola).

 

If you see a chap on the fighter board you know he's come off bombers, so if you want to see his earlier stats you just hop over to the bomber board.

 

It's what it is chaps. I know it could be better but there's only so much I can handle with other stuff I have to do each day (work mostly). I did this with DiD for IL2 a few years ago, around 200 members with a significant percentage of those each day sending me reports, which I updated on a board as I'm doing with this. I burned out after a year (just over a year), though I was also creating a new mission each and every day for the daily MP sessions. This OFF jobby is relaxed by comparison, but I'm not going to let that sucker me in to over-reaching myself. The way it is now I can continue indefinitely, or until armistice-day, whichever comes first.

 

 

Not easy for me really. Means every time I report I have to go through my log calculating figures... I have to deduct all my bomber stats from my dossier to work out my report. Not clear where the dificulty is for you... we send our totals... you put them up surely? Not your responisibility if people dont send you there correct combined totals.

 

Ive noticed that Olhams pilot already has his correct combined total up for fighters (ie it is his total for fighters and bombers combined).

 

Would be easiest if you just deleted the pilot from the bomber list completely when they transfer... doesnt really make sense for them to still be on a roster for a squadron they are not in... after all you delete the dead ones and keep the transfered ones....

[Siggi 10]

Stiffy, think about the extra bit of work it causes you (x1) vs the extra bit of work it causes me (x24). I have streamlined it so it's as easy for me as it can be. However you look at it, you've got an added component that didn't exist before, so all told you're in the black.

[Siggi 10]

I'll add bomber stats to the fighter stats in brackets, that should do the trick.

[zoomzoom 2]

Lets all give Siggi a hand, he's doing alot of work for us all here.

 

ZZ.

[77Scout 3]

You have to do what works for you of course Siggi, but I will chime in again and side with Stiffy as I too fail to see that the present system would be easiest for you...seems like you have to juggle two sets of stats for each pilot and there is a bunch of extra math for everyone.

 

In my mind (and perhaps only there, ha ha) the simplest system would actually be have everyone together all on one list (both bombers and fighters) and just add a column (or icon) for 'fighter/bomber'. Then there would be only one complete set of stats for each pilot (not two) and you get to see everyone all together. This would also allow reporting of only combined grand-totals (no adding/subtracting between the two lists) and easier to see how everyone is doing. Come to think of it, if you add a column (or icon) for crumpet/kraut then your four lists can be trimmed down to just one list.

 

Just throwing out ideas

 

 

[Siggi 10]

You have to do what works for you of course Siggi, but I will chime in again and side with Stiffy as I too fail to see that the present system would be easiest for you...seems like you have to juggle two sets of stats for each pilot and there is a bunch of extra math for everyone.

 

In my mind (and perhaps only there, ha ha) the simplest system would actually be have everyone together all on one list (both bombers and fighters) and just add a column (or icon) for 'fighter/bomber'. Then there would be only one complete set of stats for each pilot (not two) and you get to see everyone all together. This would also allow reporting of only combined grand-totals (no adding/subtracting between the two lists) and easier to see how everyone is doing. Come to think of it, if you add a column (or icon) for crumpet/kraut then your four lists can be trimmed down to just one list.

 

Just throwing out ideas

 

It would be a lot easier to have everything on one board, but it would look crap too.

 

Having bomber and fighter totals combined on the fighter board made it difficult to calculate the fighter running totals. I'm not very good at maths, even with a calculator, I kind of go into a dazed trance. I've added the bomber stats next to the fighter stats, in brackets. Now everyone can see at a glance the total stats for each pilot on one page (sides respectively of course, I won't have fratinization in a common mess ). Anyway, King George and the Kaiser made me do it this way.

[Stiffy 1]

Still dont really understand what you mean by work for you...

 

We send you the numbers... you put them up. No maths involved at any point.

 

Sorry not trying to be funny! just really dont get what you are saying... what do you think you need to do 24 times?

[Siggi 10]

Still dont really understand what you mean by work for you...

 

We send you the numbers... you put them up. No maths involved at any point.

 

Sorry not trying to be funny! just really dont get what you are saying... what do you think you need to do 24 times?

 

The easiest answer to that is look at the boards, see what data they hold, then imagine getting the updates from multiple pilots and think what has to be inputted and how the figures are derived. It took me half an hour this morning, with a calculator and notepad. Which isn't a great deal of work, but mainly because I've made it that way. I have my coffee and toast while I'm doing it. I have to font, size and colour too. And jiggle sliders around. It all adds up you know. Then save and FTP it. Then notice I did something wrong and open DW again, fix it, open FTP and upload again. Fortunately my calculator is solar-powered, so I don't have to worry about batteries.

 

Seriously though, I don't enjoy doing it, but I enjoy what it adds to the group experience, and that's my motivation. If it was a burden I wouldn't do it. Simples. It's what it is and it works and looks the way it does because that's how much I want to cope with, however little you may or may not think that is. And you're talking about a minor detail, that if changed to the way you want might not suit somebody else. Then where would we be?

[Stiffy 1]

It took me half an hour this morning, with a calculator and notepad.

 

Sorry Sig.. I dont think you are getting it... you dont need to touch a calculator. The figures we send are correct. You dont need to change them. Why spend time splitting up our figures when noone wants you too?

 

To try to get this straight....

 

You are spending time subtracting our bomber scores from our fighter scores yes?

 

But we dont want you to do that. And you dont want to do that.

 

Why dont you just put up the scores we send.... you dont have to touch them... just type them in as they are.

 

Here is the system

 

1 player sends you his pilot totals (bomber and fighter combined!)

 

2 you put them up on board (if player is still in bombers it goes on bomber board, if in fighters it goes on fighter board.

 

3 Job done, no maths

 

No use, need or desire for you to waste time splitting them.

 

Hope this cleaars up our point... really... we are trying to save you alot of pointless work!

[Rickitycrate 10]

Lothar of the Hill people seems to be working on something for this if I understand his post in the General Help forum. He seems to want to simplify and automate if I understand correctly. But I'm a dunce.