shotdown Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 (edited) I'm posting here pics from my visit (a few months ago) to the spanish air museum at Cuatro Vientos, near Madrid. I'm not exactly an expert photographer, so I don't think they're as good as some other pictures I've seen around here If I'm not mistaken the Spanish Ejército del Aire (Army of the air) was the only air force that used the F-104 Starfighter without loses. This is the plane used by General Francisco Franco to fly from the Canary Islands to Spanish Morocco at the beginning of the spanish civil war (see next picture if you can read spanish) Hispano Aviación 1109. A license built Messerschmitt Bf-109 fitted with a Hispano-Suiza engine instead of the original DB-605 and wing mounted guns instead of the original nose weapons. I'll add more pictures in future posts. Edited May 14, 2010 by shotdown Quote
shotdown Posted May 14, 2010 Author Posted May 14, 2010 (edited) Museum kits, almost as good as the ones I make at home (yeah, I wish... ) Replica of the spanish Hydroplane Plus Ultra. Plus Ultra flew From Palos (Spain) to Buenos Aires in 1926. The original plane is now in an argentinian museum. Edited May 14, 2010 by shotdown Quote
shotdown Posted May 18, 2010 Author Posted May 18, 2010 (edited) More pics Fiat CR-32. This italian biplane was the most important fighter for the "nacionales" (nationals, the rebels) during the Spanish Civil War. Spanish top ace (and spanish civil war top ace) Joaquín García Morato got most of his 40 victories wit the CR-32. Hispano Aviación HA-1112 Buchón (big crop). This was the last version of the classical Messerschmitt Bf-109. It was powered by a british Rolls Royce Merlin (traitor!) that gave it a big throated look, thus its nickname. Tese planes played the Luftwaffe Bf-109E's in the movie "The battle of Britain". Polikarpov I-15 Chato(squat). Probably, the most important fighter in the republican military during the Spanish Civil War. Polikarpov I-16. Known in Spain as rata (rat) by the rebels and mosca (fly) by the republicans it was the most advanced fighter plane in the republican ir forces. Surviving planes were used by the air forces of General Franco's government after the war and to show it, this plane is painted like a republican plane on one side and like a post war plane on the other. Edited May 18, 2010 by shotdown Quote
shotdown Posted May 19, 2010 Author Posted May 19, 2010 (edited) It's like a museum from Il-2:1946! More like a third wire museujm. I don't remember seeing any Mirage F1 in Sturmovik. Messerschmitt Bf 108 Autogiro; designed by spanish engineer Juan De La Cierva, the Autogiro was somewhere between airplane and helicopter. It could take off and land with a very short run (Vertically in later models) but it couldn't hover like an helicopter. Unlike helicopters, the rotor is only used to create lifting power, not to move the autogiro in any direction, so after taking off like an helicopter the autogiro flies like a plane. Edited May 19, 2010 by shotdown Quote
+JediMaster Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 Perhaps, but Ju-52, CR-32, I-15, I-16, Bf109, Bf108... Quote
shotdown Posted May 20, 2010 Author Posted May 20, 2010 Perhaps, but Ju-52, CR-32, I-15, I-16, Bf109, Bf108... I think (I'm not a third wire sims expert, so i might be wrong) some of these planes exists for the third wire sim series, but definitely not Phantoms or Mirages for Sturmovik (at least, not yet). Quote
shotdown Posted May 21, 2010 Author Posted May 21, 2010 More pics CASA 2111. A spanish built Heinkel 111. Like the HA 1112 Buchón, it uses Rolls Royce Merlin Engines instead of the original german engines. More Autogiros Quote
shotdown Posted May 26, 2010 Author Posted May 26, 2010 You are welcome, Crusader. A few more pics. Still not sure what kind of aircraft is this one Quote
shotdown Posted May 28, 2010 Author Posted May 28, 2010 I think you are right it's an ugly MKIII C-212: a spanish light cargo aircraft Quote
+JediMaster Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 A KC-97L! Not too many of them around. In fact, Spain and the US were the only operators. Here's an older pic of that same plane: Ye Olde Tanker Quote
macelena Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 We had them to refuel the F-4Cs. I think we should have got F-4Js and refuel them with KC-130s, but well: Quote
macelena Posted June 6, 2010 Posted June 6, 2010 What's the history of a Viggen in Spain? I don´t know how did the Swedish aircraft end up in our museum, never served here, but we also got some "red air". The story of those is that, in the cold war, we held over to the germans a few aircraft for their museum, Ju52, He111 and Me109, so when the reunification they a MiG-21, a MiG-23 and a Su-22. We also got a MiG-17, but i don´t know if it was part of that donation or what Quote
Derk Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 (edited) What's the history of a Viggen in Spain? The SAF gave away quite some Viggens. The Aviodrome Museum at Lelystad -primarily a civil aviation museum- asked for one. They heard nothing until after 5 years, completely out of the blue, a guy called Nicolas Sandström called and asked when one could be delivered ....... He turned out to be the pilot and flew the Viggen in within 2 weeks after calling !!!!! It was a somewhat sad occasion for him as it was the last flight of this example, but on the other side it was saved the fate of most Viggens: being turned into beercans. At Google Earth a couple of years ago dozens of Viggens could be seen being scrapped:sad: at Halmstadt Airfield on the SW coast of Sweden....... Hou doe, Derk Edited June 8, 2010 by Derk Quote
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