+76.IAP-Blackbird 3,557 Posted July 26, 2010 (edited) Never seen those BMP`s or this kind of Hind! Looks impressive, does someone has some infor about this hardware? http://www.tinysquishy.com/Company/Team/Diaries/2006.html Edited July 26, 2010 by 76.IAP-Blackbird Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast 153 Posted July 26, 2010 (edited) As to the upgraded Hind its by a South African Company the link gives an idea... http://www.guncopter.com/super-hind/ Basically take the old Airframe and modify it with new avionics and weapons... There is also an Israeli company doing something similar. Here's one of the Hinds in flight http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-811132659577028591# As to the AFV looks like a BMP with a Turret set for Anti-Tank Missiles possibly the South African Ingwe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingwe_%28missile%29 This latter is a guess though... Edited July 26, 2010 by Slartibartfast Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abhi 3 Posted July 27, 2010 All mi series helos make 1 common sound,the choey choey wen the do a flypast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hokum 0 Posted July 27, 2010 The hind looks similar to the one in Blood diamond. SA do alot of mod stuff and some of it is rather good! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast 153 Posted July 27, 2010 Okay after further investigation the Hind is not a Denel upgrade but an ATE Upgrade South African company still http://www.ate-group.com/ate_Product/10/index.html Looks like the only country to buy into it is Algeria and Rostovol??? original makers of the Hind are saying it makes the Aircraft Dangerous to fly etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abhi 3 Posted July 28, 2010 dangerous,how?????????/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastCargo 412 Posted July 28, 2010 Could be it throws the CG farther forward than the original designers anticipated. FC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gr.Viper 131 Posted July 28, 2010 I wonder why nobody uses the space of the troop transport section. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayethWhaaaa 245 Posted July 28, 2010 I thought this had already been through qualifications already? The SuperHind is ugly as sin, and like all fugly vehicles, must be awesome at what it does! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast 153 Posted July 30, 2010 It is true that the Helo has been qualified to fly etc... I think its just that Rostovol are just bad mouthing as they didn't get the job as from what I understand the Algerian Military is very happy with the Fugly bird... I tell you this much the Hind was ugly to start with and after this nose job it gets a 10 out of 10 in the Fugly awards... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gr.Viper 131 Posted July 30, 2010 It's not the first Hind's nose job. Maybe somebody should give her back her old nose? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted July 30, 2010 Ugh, I HATE the "greenhouse" of the Hind-A. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotdown 8 Posted July 30, 2010 (edited) I wonder why nobody uses the space of the troop transport section. I think it's a matter of weight. With weapons and internal cargo, it becomes too heavy and difficult to manouver. I've heard the cargo space is used to carry extra ammo. Edited July 30, 2010 by shotdown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Gepard 11,304 Posted July 31, 2010 I think the russians are speaking bad about the south african and israeli modernization programms, because they offer 2 own programms to enhance the capabilities of the hind. In both cases they implement technology of the Mi-28N into the Mi-24. The improved russian Hinds have now full night fight capability, new engines, improved weapons and a Mi-28 (AH-64) style tail rotor which is reducing the noise of the helicopter significantly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted August 1, 2010 That's the Mi-35M, but I don't know if that's a retrofit program or it's only new builds. The funny thing is the Mi-35 used to be just the export downgrade model. Now the Mi-35M is the better version and Russia itself is buying a few dozen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hokum 0 Posted August 2, 2010 (edited) The trouble is that the Mi-24/35 is a JOAT design. As a gunship it's big cause of the troop/cargo hold, and as a troop transport it's not much better than a cheaper Hip bar better armour, making it heavier and less suited for landing stoops in tight areas. I don't know why people would buy them these days. Didn't Brazil buy some recently? Edited August 2, 2010 by Hokum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Gepard 11,304 Posted August 2, 2010 It is the perfect heli for SAR missions. It does not need combat helicopter escorts as all other SAR helis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast 153 Posted August 2, 2010 The trouble is that the Mi-24/35 is a JOAT design. As a gunship it's big cause of the troop/cargo hold, and as a troop transport it's not much better than a cheaper Hip bar better armour, making it heavier and less suited for landing stoops in tight areas. I don't know why people would buy them these days. Didn't Brazil buy some recently? Yes they did but from a military point of view it does make some sense... CSAR is one of them... also it can take a few hits and also they work out a lot cheaper than an Apache... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hokum 0 Posted August 9, 2010 True but I don't think the Apache was in the running in the first place! I think it was VS the Mongoose and the Rooivalk. Shame they didn't get the choice of the KA-52! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
